Sony botches PSP launch

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Hammer
sony just overestimated demand at the $250 price point. i'm glad actually. prices on game systems have been going up and up. its good to see them get slapped finally. the average consumer does not want to pay more than $100-150 for a handheld.

Yep. $250 for a handheld gaming device is too much no matter what bells and whistles it comes with. $250-$300 is what the consumer expects for a newly released game console.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: slycat
for 250beans...not even 1 is OK.
They suck if they can't even get a 2x4inch lcd screen right. Where did they contract those screens..QA sux0red.

Originally posted by: Tiamat
1 dead (stuck off) subpixel is ok. but reports of up to 25!!? Ive personally seen 11 stuck subpixels and its terrible.

I had one dead pixel on my 3.7" Dell Axim x50V (640x480) and I paid $450 for it when it first came. I didn't bitch about it nearly as much as the rest of these whiners. In fact I just said:

"Hmm, dead pixel. FVCK. Oh well"

Come to think of it, I never even really realized the dead pixel again after that and I use it everyday.

 

[mobobuff]

I don't see the point in complaining over a few dead pixels. But when you consider that 19" LCD monitors with 30 times more screen area than the PSP LCD area can be returned for a mere 8 pixels...

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: slycat
for 250beans...not even 1 is OK.
They suck if they can't even get a 2x4inch lcd screen right. Where did they contract those screens..QA sux0red.

Originally posted by: Tiamat
1 dead (stuck off) subpixel is ok. but reports of up to 25!!? Ive personally seen 11 stuck subpixels and its terrible.

I had one dead pixel on my 3.7" Dell Axim x50V (640x480) and I paid $450 for it when it first came. I didn't bitch about it nearly as much as the rest of these whiners. In fact I just said:

"Hmm, dead pixel. FVCK. Oh well"

Come to think of it, I never even really realized the dead pixel again after that and I use it everyday.

My 19" flat-screen CRT actually has 3 dead pixels, one of which is dead-center. I noticed them for the first couple weeks, but now I never notice them unless I try to look for it.

 

[slycat]

They must've paid for C stock.

I believe the screens are from Sharp. Samsung is another possible manufacturer that is contracted to make PSP screens.

 

[suse920]

well sony hasnt really advertised it a lot. i know today in school a few kids had them and everyone was drawn to them. Ooohhhh shiny sleek, me want!!!! I think that sales are going to be great once they get out there over a million systems have been shipped here already so i dint expect them to sell out. I just gald i didnt go for the ds.

 

[777php]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
So, on Friday I go pick up my preorder PSP: a cluster of about a *dozen* bad pixels glares back at me when I get home. Suck. Saturday comes, and of course, gamestop just had enough for preorders, so refundola and i'm feeling like I won't get one for awhile. But behold! Target has DOZENS of them just *sitting* there. So I buy one, feeling happy again! But wait! 4 dead pixels! So I exchange it because hey, they have plenty and the third times got to do the trick, right? Wrong!! Another 3 dead pixels away.

Suffice to say, refund came next, and I won't be buying a PSP until the bugs are worked out and the price drops. If there is anything else obvious it's that the PSP bundle SUCKS ASS and this unit, for all its cool potential, is WAY overpriced.

And Sony doesn't think the dead Pixel issue is a problem!

And they're still just sitting on shelves...

What do you guys think? IMHO, the price is too high, the bundle too lame and this dead pixel issue is just one too many for me to be a serious buyer right now. Maybe later when they get the bugs worked out and the price dropped by about $100.

Jason

Sony does feel that dead pixels warrant an exchange according to these news reports.

Sony responds to PSP dead-pixel reports
PSP Dead Pixel problem fixed
Sony responds to pixel problems; Exchanges offered

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: 777php

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
So, on Friday I go pick up my preorder PSP: a cluster of about a *dozen* bad pixels glares back at me when I get home. Suck. Saturday comes, and of course, gamestop just had enough for preorders, so refundola and i'm feeling like I won't get one for awhile. But behold! Target has DOZENS of them just *sitting* there. So I buy one, feeling happy again! But wait! 4 dead pixels! So I exchange it because hey, they have plenty and the third times got to do the trick, right? Wrong!! Another 3 dead pixels away.

Suffice to say, refund came next, and I won't be buying a PSP until the bugs are worked out and the price drops. If there is anything else obvious it's that the PSP bundle SUCKS ASS and this unit, for all its cool potential, is WAY overpriced.

And Sony doesn't think the dead Pixel issue is a problem!

And they're still just sitting on shelves...

What do you guys think? IMHO, the price is too high, the bundle too lame and this dead pixel issue is just one too many for me to be a serious buyer right now. Maybe later when they get the bugs worked out and the price dropped by about $100.

Jason

Sony does feel that dead pixels warrant an exchange according to these news reports.

Sony responds to PSP dead-pixel reports
PSP Dead Pixel problem fixed
Sony responds to pixel problems; Exchanges offered

Sony still does not want to admit that there lasers they put in the 1 gen PS2 is a piece of sh1t. They better exchnage those, or they will have a rough runnign with the next launch.

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: 777php

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
So, on Friday I go pick up my preorder PSP: a cluster of about a *dozen* bad pixels glares back at me when I get home. Suck. Saturday comes, and of course, gamestop just had enough for preorders, so refundola and i'm feeling like I won't get one for awhile. But behold! Target has DOZENS of them just *sitting* there. So I buy one, feeling happy again! But wait! 4 dead pixels! So I exchange it because hey, they have plenty and the third times got to do the trick, right? Wrong!! Another 3 dead pixels away.

Suffice to say, refund came next, and I won't be buying a PSP until the bugs are worked out and the price drops. If there is anything else obvious it's that the PSP bundle SUCKS ASS and this unit, for all its cool potential, is WAY overpriced.

And Sony doesn't think the dead Pixel issue is a problem!

And they're still just sitting on shelves...

What do you guys think? IMHO, the price is too high, the bundle too lame and this dead pixel issue is just one too many for me to be a serious buyer right now. Maybe later when they get the bugs worked out and the price dropped by about $100.

Jason

Sony does feel that dead pixels warrant an exchange according to these news reports.

Sony responds to PSP dead-pixel reports
PSP Dead Pixel problem fixed
Sony responds to pixel problems; Exchanges offered

That's good to hear.

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: miri
Why are these selling for over retail on EBAY?

Because people are stupid en masse

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Bundles are ALWAYS lame. I think the price of this unit is fair. The dead pixel issue is a concern though.

I can't get the second link to work, but even as of saturday (and probably today) PSPs were readily available near me.

Really, you think $250 for a portable game system with NO games is a fair price? No offense but I think you're nuts

Jason

 

[JulesMaximus]

I was at Costco Saturday and they had a bunch of them for sale there.

 

[slycat]

well..u guys must be very tolerant. I have 2 lcd tvs, 4lcd monitors that i bought for others and view at work/home, and all have 0 dead pixels. So, NO, i'm not gonna stand for it especially when the screen is that small. And dust in the units?...fvck that...what happened to the ISO9002/9006?

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I might go for one @ the $150 price point.

Yeah, that's more of a reasonable price point for a portable, IMHO. I'd feel better about the $250 if it came with at least ONE game along with that movie. It really is an awful bundle, though. Not quite HL2 collector's edition awful, but a close second.

Jason

 

[OverVolt]

Yea i've had an LCD with two blue pixels, two red ones, and two black dead pixels. Didn't return it, it is not worth the hassle.

On that small of a screen though, you have to wonder what kind of quality control they are using.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: suse920
well sony hasnt really advertised it a lot. i know today in school a few kids had them and everyone was drawn to them. Ooohhhh shiny sleek, me want!!!! I think that sales are going to be great once they get out there over a million systems have been shipped here already so i dint expect them to sell out. I just gald i didnt go for the ds.

Yeah, it's really gorgeous, and in fact a co-worker who's never been into games bought one a day after seeing another co-worker's DS. He saw it and was just enamoured with it. When you see it in person you will not question as to whether it's worth $250, if you can subscribe to the DS being worth $150.

It's expensive, which can't be helping sales, but I still think it's _worth_ $250. Its launch games are lacking, but then that's always the problem with new consoles. Selling in March is probably not a perfect time either, and then the quality issues are definitely not helping.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: slycat
for 250beans...not even 1 is OK.
They suck if they can't even get a 2x4inch lcd screen right. Where did they contract those screens..QA sux0red.

Originally posted by: Tiamat
1 dead (stuck off) subpixel is ok. but reports of up to 25!!? Ive personally seen 11 stuck subpixels and its terrible.

I had one dead pixel on my 3.7" Dell Axim x50V (640x480) and I paid $450 for it when it first came. I didn't bitch about it nearly as much as the rest of these whiners. In fact I just said:

"Hmm, dead pixel. FVCK. Oh well"

Come to think of it, I never even really realized the dead pixel again after that and I use it everyday.

1 dead pixel != multiple dead pixels. If it's actively noticeable, it's a problem. It's obviously a quality control issue.

If you were buying a new car, would you be completely happy if it had 1 ding in it, but you were still paying the regular price?

 

[royaldank]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Yep. $250 for a handheld gaming device is too much no matter what bells and whistles it comes with. $250-$300 is what the consumer expects for a newly released game console.

If that's true, don't expect the next wave of consoles to sell very well. I dare say they will be in the $350-$400 range. It's inflation. Sony isn't releasing a $250 handheld to turn around the following year and release a $250 console. Wont happen.

 

[suse920]

well sony hasnt really advertised it a lot. i know today in school a few kids had them and everyone was drawn to them. Ooohhhh shiny sleek, me want!!!! I think that sales are going to be great once they get out there over a million systems have been shipped here already so i dint expect them to sell out. I just gald i didnt go for the ds.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Bundles are ALWAYS lame. I think the price of this unit is fair. The dead pixel issue is a concern though.

I can't get the second link to work, but even as of saturday (and probably today) PSPs were readily available near me.

Really, you think $250 for a portable game system with NO games is a fair price? No offense but I think you're nuts

Jason

This is incredible. You're calling me nuts, but you're the guy who, knowing it lacked games, went through THREE OF THESE.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Tiamat
1 dead (stuck off) subpixel is ok. but reports of up to 25!!? Ive personally seen 11 stuck subpixels and its terrible.

on a screen that small id be very pushed to just accept it. 25 is out of the question, even for the biggest LCD, 25 is out of the question....that sh1ts going back!

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: 777php

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
So, on Friday I go pick up my preorder PSP: a cluster of about a *dozen* bad pixels glares back at me when I get home. Suck. Saturday comes, and of course, gamestop just had enough for preorders, so refundola and i'm feeling like I won't get one for awhile. But behold! Target has DOZENS of them just *sitting* there. So I buy one, feeling happy again! But wait! 4 dead pixels! So I exchange it because hey, they have plenty and the third times got to do the trick, right? Wrong!! Another 3 dead pixels away.

Suffice to say, refund came next, and I won't be buying a PSP until the bugs are worked out and the price drops. If there is anything else obvious it's that the PSP bundle SUCKS ASS and this unit, for all its cool potential, is WAY overpriced.

And Sony doesn't think the dead Pixel issue is a problem!

And they're still just sitting on shelves...

What do you guys think? IMHO, the price is too high, the bundle too lame and this dead pixel issue is just one too many for me to be a serious buyer right now. Maybe later when they get the bugs worked out and the price dropped by about $100.

Jason

Sony does feel that dead pixels warrant an exchange according to these news reports.

Sony responds to PSP dead-pixel reports
PSP Dead Pixel problem fixed
Sony responds to pixel problems; Exchanges offered

Sony still does not want to admit that there lasers they put in the 1 gen PS2 is a piece of sh1t. They better exchnage those, or they will have a rough runnign with the next launch.

Oh good luck on those! I had FOUR PS2's die on me within 90 days of launch. It really was a total piece of crap until the later generations came out with the refinements. The new mini PS2 (I traded mine in) is cool, though.

Jason

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: slycat
for 250beans...not even 1 is OK.
They suck if they can't even get a 2x4inch lcd screen right. Where did they contract those screens..QA sux0red.

Originally posted by: Tiamat
1 dead (stuck off) subpixel is ok. but reports of up to 25!!? Ive personally seen 11 stuck subpixels and its terrible.

I had one dead pixel on my 3.7" Dell Axim x50V (640x480) and I paid $450 for it when it first came. I didn't bitch about it nearly as much as the rest of these whiners. In fact I just said:

"Hmm, dead pixel. FVCK. Oh well"

Come to think of it, I never even really realized the dead pixel again after that and I use it everyday.

1 dead pixel != multiple dead pixels. If it's actively noticeable, it's a problem. It's obviously a quality control issue.

If you were buying a new car, would you be completely happy if it had 1 ding in it, but you were still paying the regular price?

Cars are also for show and status, not just for getting you to point B from point A. I'm generally the only person looking at my monitors, which usually don't ellude to any sort of status or class.

Now, if you said "if you buy an old beat up ford pickup for 300 bucks, and it has a ding in it, are you going to want to knock it down to $250?"

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Bundles are ALWAYS lame. I think the price of this unit is fair. The dead pixel issue is a concern though.

I can't get the second link to work, but even as of saturday (and probably today) PSPs were readily available near me.

Really, you think $250 for a portable game system with NO games is a fair price? No offense but I think you're nuts

Jason

This is incredible. You're calling me nuts, but you're the guy who, knowing it lacked games, went through THREE OF THESE.

Hey, it was the same $$ on all three, and in the end I did dump the thing and get my wad back, so no harm no foul Besides, like I said, no offense intended so let's just relax and be buds!

Jason

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: royaldank

Originally posted by: Queasy
Yep. $250 for a handheld gaming device is too much no matter what bells and whistles it comes with. $250-$300 is what the consumer expects for a newly released game console.

If that's true, don't expect the next wave of consoles to sell very well. I dare say they will be in the $350-$400 range. It's inflation. Sony isn't releasing a $250 handheld to turn around the following year and release a $250 console. Wont happen.

I expect the next-gen consoles to be around $350. PS2 and Xbox started at $300 so $350 is not too much higher. It doesn't have much to do with inflation as it has to do with consumer perception and what consumers are willing to pay. How many consoles have been successful that cost over $400? Zero.

It also sounds like individual game price may be rising to around $60 as well...especially EA games.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: slycat
for 250beans...not even 1 is OK.
They suck if they can't even get a 2x4inch lcd screen right. Where did they contract those screens..QA sux0red.

Originally posted by: Tiamat
1 dead (stuck off) subpixel is ok. but reports of up to 25!!? Ive personally seen 11 stuck subpixels and its terrible.

I had one dead pixel on my 3.7" Dell Axim x50V (640x480) and I paid $450 for it when it first came. I didn't bitch about it nearly as much as the rest of these whiners. In fact I just said:

"Hmm, dead pixel. FVCK. Oh well"

Come to think of it, I never even really realized the dead pixel again after that and I use it everyday.

1 dead pixel != multiple dead pixels. If it's actively noticeable, it's a problem. It's obviously a quality control issue.

If you were buying a new car, would you be completely happy if it had 1 ding in it, but you were still paying the regular price?

Cars are also for show and status, not just for getting you to point B from point A. I'm generally the only person looking at my monitors, which usually don't ellude to any sort of status or class.

Now, if you said "if you buy an old beat up ford pickup for 300 bucks, and it has a ding in it, are you going to want to knock it down to $250?"

I don't give a sh!t what other people think of my car. I'm saying if you're about to buy a car and you notice a ding in it, would you be happy with paying full price vs a car with no ding? Fvck no. Only an idiot would say yes.

If you're fine with paying the same price for a defective product vs a 100% working product, that's your perogative.