Some Trump Supporters Finally Realize That Repealing ObamaCrare will affect them

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K1052

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Which is why I don't believe these tweets are from Trump supporters or those who voted for him

While it's anecdotal several publications have profiled a number of Trump voters who would be negatively affected by a repeal. Most of them expressed hope that he would keep it but now concern that he will repeal without replacing. While I don't put much stock into anonymous tweets it seemes people like this do indeed exist in the real world.
 
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dank69

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These are the people I feel exactly zero sympathy for. In fact, I hope Trump gives it to them deep. I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.
 
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Jhhnn

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You have to have empathy for them. They are humans and they made a mistake. Hatred of the dupes will accomplish nothing.

Agreed. Sometimes the only way to learn is the hard way. Just the way it is.
 

Balt

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You have to have empathy for them. They are humans and they made a mistake. Hatred of the dupes will accomplish nothing.

Naw, I'm fucking done. If people can't be bothered to do even the slightest bit of research or work to identify their own best interests, I can't have sympathy for them anymore.

This election was the last straw for me. I'm going full schadenfreude. They are going to get exactly what they wanted, and exactly what they deserve. Unfortunately, the rest of the country is going to suffer with them.
 

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I look at it this way: this election just reminded a lot of Americans that they really do have to make informed voting decisions, because there are politicians who will play on their emotions to make up for truly terrible policies. I wouldn't be surprised if the turnouts in 2018 and 2020 are considerably higher as a result, and it's safe to say they won't work in Trump's favor as things are right now.
 
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theeedude

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I hope to meet some of these people when they lose their insurance, so I can laugh in their face and thank them for screwing themselves so I can get a tax cut on my capital gains.
 
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He is easily the greatest con man this country has ever produced.

I wouldn't say he's the greatest con man. He's not really the greatest, well, anything. People the world over could see plain as day that the guy's a buffoon at the best of times, and there was no shortage of US television coverage of his antics.

The proper term is luckiest. Guy got half a country to follow his irate, incoherent ramblings, to which they respond "Right on!".
 
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Jhhnn

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I wouldn't say he's the greatest con man. He's not really the greatest, well, anything. People the world over could see plain as day that the guy's a buffoon at the best of times, and there was no short US telivision coverage of his antics.

The proper term is luckiest. Guy got half a country to follow his irate, incoherent ramblings, to which they respond "Right on!".

It's not luck. It's an uncanny ability to paint pictures that simply disregard the truth-

https://newrepublic.com/article/124803/donald-trump-not-liar
 
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I wouldn't say he's the greatest con man. He's not really the greatest, well, anything. People the world over could see plain as day that the guy's a buffoon at the best of times, and there was no short US telivision coverage of his antics.

The proper term is luckiest. Guy got half a country to follow his irate, incoherent ramblings, to which they respond "Right on!".


People in business can be bright but the ones at the top of the food chain are supremely aggressive in nature. A head start and loud voice and a drive to crush all opposition go a long way in business and politics. One needs to be a good shark.
 

Bitek

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Naw, I'm fucking done. If people can't be bothered to do even the slightest bit of research or work to identify their own best interests, I can't have sympathy for them anymore.

This election was the last straw for me. I'm going full schadenfreude. They are going to get exactly what they wanted, and exactly what they deserve. Unfortunately, the rest of the country is going to suffer with them.

I look at it this way: this election just reminded a lot of Americans that they really do have to make informed voting decisions, because there are politicians who will play on their emotions to make up for truly terrible policies. I wouldn't be surprised if the turnouts in 2018 and 2020 are considerably higher as a result, and it's safe to say they won't work in Trump's favor as things are right now.


While it's amusing to see such ignorance on display, I generally am concerned for people's fates.

People in my family voted for Trump for a variety of reasons. I don't want to see them hurt, fools may they be.

There are a still a whole swath of people who are not whole, or entering retirement with very little savings and shaky health situations. SS has not robust increases in the last several years.

You can explain inflation is low due to the recession and COLAs will be low, plus actually the GOP wants chained CPIs to lower payouts.....

.... But they don't hear that. It's insanely frustrating, but the lies are very effective.

Many believed Trump when he said he would "take care of them", lower all these costs, and no one would lose anything.

The con works because people want to believe the lies, and very few bother to pay attn to the details or understand the arithmetic.

But this is not the GOP platform. This is not what they stand for, Trump's plans don't add up, and it will be miraculous to turn his party truly into a socialist people's party.

More than likely there will a lot of pieces to clean up when the con gets revealed and people realize they won't " be taken care of." Until then it's fingers in the ears.
 

Jhhnn

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While it's amusing to see such ignorance on display, I generally am concerned for people's fates.

People in my family voted for Trump for a variety of reasons. I don't want to see them hurt, fools may they be.

There are a still a whole swath of people who are not whole, or entering retirement with very little savings and shaky health situations. SS has not robust increases in the last several years.

You can explain inflation is low due to the recession and COLAs will be low, plus actually the GOP wants chained CPIs to lower payouts.....

.... But they don't hear that. It's insanely frustrating, but the lies are very effective.

Many believed Trump when he said he would "take care of them", lower all these costs, and no one would lose anything.

The con works because people want to believe the lies, and very few bother to pay attn to the details or understand the arithmetic.

But this is not the GOP platform. This is not what they stand for, Trump's plans don't add up, and it will be miraculous to turn his party truly into a socialist people's party.

More than likely there will a lot of pieces to clean up when the con gets revealed and people realize they won't " be taken care of." Until then it's fingers in the ears.

Well said.
 
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These are the people I feel exactly zero sympathy for. In fact, I hope Trump gives it to them deep. I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

Can't go that far. They were foolish but even so people are. Doesn't mean I hate them to the point I want to see harm come their way.
 

zinfamous

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Lol! Fuck'em;)

I'm pretty much there. If they can't accept the reality after 2 years of being beaten into their skulls what this man is actually saying, then fuck 'em. They voted to fuck themselves with the full array of resources at their fingertips to fairly inform themselves of what they were doing. If they repeatedly chose to "believe" that facts were not facts and Orange Jesus was going to save them despite all the ways that he clearly promised to fuck them, well, you get what you vote for.

Own it, shitheads.
 
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zinfamous

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Well WTF, did no one read the news for the last 8yrs?

That said, I still believe that this realization will grow and we are headed for a real shit show with replace.

There is no more sensitive topic than people's health, and the GOP has selling bullshit they can't deliver on.

well, the only hope for them right now is that it is estimated to take at least 2 years for any of these repeals to start taking tangible effect. You can sign and vote all you want in one day, but none of these effects are going to start hitting people until the mid terms. I guess there are two ways to look at it:

--enough time, rhetoric, and movement of policy to anger people enough to overturn Congress and essentially neuter Trump in less than 2 years
--the fact that they haven't been affected throughout those 2 years of worrisome policy, they will just assume that this repeal isn't all that bad and the reality is not nearly as dire as the predictions. Complacency will set in, and the very same terrified people will continue to vote to fuck themselves, because the inevitable sting is not yet palpable.
 
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zinfamous

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Trump is President, he has the power to sign executive actions thanks to the precedence set by Obama who expanded the scope of executive actions and all the lefties who cheered on each and every one.
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again, a myth that is demonstrably proved false by the preponderance of evidence to the contrary. You make a bold claim that rejects clear evidence, show us the numbers that have lead you to believe such an "alternative fact."
 
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zinfamous

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Bullshit! The GOP had nothing to do with the passing and implementation of ObamaCare. Zero Republican votes. That socialist, Jonathan Gruber was the architect. Sorry pal, this falls squarely on the Democrats. BTW, same architect as Romneycare. The guy is a POS. You can TRY and spin it any way you want. I'm not buying.

no, you dingbat. Are you impervious to reading? The foundation of the ACA is based on decades-old policy from the hyper-republican Heritage foundation and Romneycare.

That is an undeniable fact.
 
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Jhhnn

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again, a myth that is demonstrably proved false by the preponderance of evidence to the contrary. You make a bold claim that rejects clear evidence, show us the numbers that have lead you to believe such an "alternative fact."

He went post-truth before the expression was coined.
 
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