Socket 478
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Unless you really love intel, you might be better off selling your current combo and getting an A64 single or even X2.
I'm happy with my own P4 3.2C, but if you want more speed for gaming, read the AnandTech benchmarks on intel vs. AMD, intel loses badly. The P4 Prescott 3.2 - 3.4 are also little brick ovens.
You could also try an overlock to get more speed out of your existing P4.
I'm happy with my own P4 3.2C, but if you want more speed for gaming, read the AnandTech benchmarks on intel vs. AMD, intel loses badly. The P4 Prescott 3.2 - 3.4 are also little brick ovens.
You could also try an overlock to get more speed out of your existing P4.
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I tried overclocking, but anything over default causes instability in gaming (btw, I'm using CPU-FSB, I can't reach BIOS in this POS system).
But the problem is, my system is already 2 years old... doing such a change as a mobo will require me to replace pretty much everything, including video card.
Norm
But the problem is, my system is already 2 years old... doing such a change as a mobo will require me to replace pretty much everything, including video card.
Norm
If your motherboard supports it a Prescott 3.2E gives a 23% jump in CPU speed and costs $218.
An A64 3500+ 939 is, in games, much more than a 35% jump, and would cost about $293 with either an AGP or PCI-E slot motherboard.
Choosing the PCI-E motherboard and adding a PCI-E card like a 6600GT would be another $140, for a total of around $450. But you can sell your P4 combo and 6600 for ($200?), and it would let you replace the video card later.
Tough choice, but I'd probably pick the A64 and switch to PCI-E now.
An A64 3500+ 939 is, in games, much more than a 35% jump, and would cost about $293 with either an AGP or PCI-E slot motherboard.
Choosing the PCI-E motherboard and adding a PCI-E card like a 6600GT would be another $140, for a total of around $450. But you can sell your P4 combo and 6600 for ($200?), and it would let you replace the video card later.
Tough choice, but I'd probably pick the A64 and switch to PCI-E now.
You don't list your motherboard. You have to make sure your motherboard will support a Prescott processor.
It all depends on your mobo. If your mobo has overclocking capability, you can try raising the FSB to about 133 and you should see a difference and probably decent enough for everyday use. If you have one of those IGP video system your probably better off buying a new mobo. But then you might as well upgrade your CPU. So in short, you will at least end up buying a new mobo, video card and a cpu. This, if the existing rams are compatible. So the final recomendation is to overclock the old system and see how much more juice you can get out of it. Wait until you are ready to do a major upgrade or probably just build a new system and either sell or keep the old one for back up or something.
apoppin
Lifer
What [decent] MB supports Socket 478 and PCIe?. . . i have a NW P4 2.80c @ 3.31Ghz on an Abit IC7 and am toying with the idea of a 7800gtx or x1800xt . . . unfortunately they evidently will be PCIe only.
i don't want to lose the O/C
i don't want to lose the O/C
bob4432
Lifer
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Originally posted by: apoppin
What [decent] MB supports Socket 478 and PCIe?. . . i have a NW P4 2.80c @ 3.31Ghz on an Abit IC7 and am toying with the idea of a 7800gtx or x1800xt . . . unfortunately they evidently will be PCIe only.
i don't want to lose the O/C
good luck, i think ati/nvidia are a$$es for not offering these cards in agp flavors, as they don't saturate the agp bus.
that is a good o/c, is it on air? do you know what voltage you are using? timings?
apoppin
Lifer
Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: apoppin
What [decent] MB supports Socket 478 and PCIe?. . . i have a NW P4 2.80c @ 3.31Ghz on an Abit IC7 and am toying with the idea of a 7800gtx or x1800xt . . . unfortunately they evidently will be PCIe only.
i don't want to lose the O/C
good luck, i think ati/nvidia are a$$es for not offering these cards in agp flavors, as they don't saturate the agp bus.
that is a good o/c, is it on air? do you know what voltage you are using? timings?
you mean No luck?
yep, it's (1) on air (2) Stock voltage and (3) timings of 1GB PC3500 2-3-3-7
it will do 3.5Ghz with a modest voltage increase and max out at 3.6 with a dangerous one . . . the system is 18 months old and was great bang-for-buck when i got it [with advice from GH of course] . . . that's why i'd ONLY like to upgrade the videocard [my 9800xt is just now showing its age and i'd like something beyond a x800xtpe or 6800u].
Personally, i DO think ATI will release an AGP r520 since there IS demand . . . but i have been wrong before . . .
[hope's better than nothing] :Q
bob4432
Lifer
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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: apoppin
What [decent] MB supports Socket 478 and PCIe?. . . i have a NW P4 2.80c @ 3.31Ghz on an Abit IC7 and am toying with the idea of a 7800gtx or x1800xt . . . unfortunately they evidently will be PCIe only.
i don't want to lose the O/C
good luck, i think ati/nvidia are a$$es for not offering these cards in agp flavors, as they don't saturate the agp bus.
that is a good o/c, is it on air? do you know what voltage you are using? timings?
you mean No luck?
yep, it's (1) on air (2) Stock voltage and (3) timings of 1GB PC3500 2-3-3-7
it will do 3.5Ghz with a modest voltage increase and max out at 3.6 with a dangerous one . . . the system is 18 months old and was great bang-for-buck when i got it [with advice from GH of course] . . . that's why i'd ONLY like to upgrade the videocard [my 9800xt is just now showing its age and i'd like something beyond a x800xtpe or 6800u].
Personally, i DO think ATI will release an AGP r520 since there IS demand . . . but i have been wrong before . . .
[hope's better than nothing] :Q
i know when i went from a 9800pro to the x800xtpe it was a big difference, pretty equal to a 6800ultra/gt (depending on benchmark) so i can basically play any game @ 1280x1024 high setting or 1600x1200 with a little lower and have AA on most of the time. currently i am playing bf2 @ 1280x960 6AA and am loving it - smooth frame rates.
but i do agree with you since even 1.5yr old cpus are still enough for the newest games, you would think that gpu makers would make their new cards in agp flavor as i am sure there is a huge demand for this, i know i would have probably gone a 7800gt over the x800xtpe.
apoppin
Lifer
it bugged me so much i started a thread and poll in video . . . of course it errupted into [the usual] flames. :disgust:
Will We See r520 in AGP? Why Not?
one thing . . . WHY doesn't your CPU o/c?
what do you mean you can't reach BIOS? :Q
if that is the case, you need a new MB - not a CPU . . . most of the 2.6 NWs got 3Ghz . . . my 2.8 can easily do 3.31 . . .
edit: Are there ANY pciE skt 478 MBs?
?
:frown:
isn't there an Albatron that was a decent o/c'er?
Will We See r520 in AGP? Why Not?
one thing . . . WHY doesn't your CPU o/c?
what do you mean you can't reach BIOS? :Q
if that is the case, you need a new MB - not a CPU . . . most of the 2.6 NWs got 3Ghz . . . my 2.8 can easily do 3.31 . . .
edit: Are there ANY pciE skt 478 MBs?
?
:frown:
isn't there an Albatron that was a decent o/c'er?
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Oh, and for my motherboard...
ASUStek P4SD-VX
E: btw, what I'm trying to do is to see if I can upgrade my computer any more without having to get a new one. I got it in 2003, now I'm a junior in HS and I want to use it until at least college, when I'll get a laptop. I don't want to have to get a new system, yet.
Norm
ASUStek P4SD-VX
E: btw, what I'm trying to do is to see if I can upgrade my computer any more without having to get a new one. I got it in 2003, now I'm a junior in HS and I want to use it until at least college, when I'll get a laptop. I don't want to have to get a new system, yet.
Norm
I swear to god that motherboard model number is wrong, I tried looking it up but nothing. 1. What kind of PSU do you have, I upgraded my PSU and I was able to get much much better overclocks 2. Please give us a link to the motherboard on the ASUS website, google and the site show nothing of that board.
apoppin
Lifer
what's going on? . . . did we find ANY good PCIe Socket 478 boards?
or figure out the OP's problem or MB?
or figure out the OP's problem or MB?
I severely doubt there are anything, I think we need to figure out whats wrong his system that is preventing him from overclocking. He likely needs a new PSU and CPU for him to overclock and might be using the wrong settings in the bios to overclock (or lack there of).
You should be able to get a 3.4 ghz in there. I went from a 2.4 ghz p4 to a 3.4 ghz prescott. I had to do a bios update though. So you really need to get into them. But maybe you can just make a bootdisk and it will try to boot from it. A 3.4 ghz made a huge difference for me in games. It's still a great and very suitable speed.
Also maybe you can try taking out he battery on the MB and let everything reset. Some MB's you have to push a different key to get into the bios too.
Also maybe you can try taking out he battery on the MB and let everything reset. Some MB's you have to push a different key to get into the bios too.
Agreed though 1. The 2.6s were terrible overclockers, 2. He may have a crappy board but I really believe it's simply a point a mentioned in a previous post.
im currently using a scott 3.0. overclocked but theres no reason to, its a very good all around performer and fair temps.
I bet ya that I have higher system performance than you just simply because of the fact your using a preshott thats 3.0.. 2.8Cs run much much cooler.
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