So who is the bigger evil (Now With Poll)

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The worst between the two is the one who has deluded the greater number of adherents. It is delusion that brings evil into the world.

THis might be a close one.

100 million americans v. about the same about of muslims. I call a tie.

 

[zzzz]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Non-American deaths are meaningless.

Yet, somehow you think removing Saddam was fine because "He was killng his own pepople" (the latest excuse for war by bush)

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The worst between the two is the one who has deluded the greater number of adherents. It is delusion that brings evil into the world.

THis might be a close one.

100 million americans v. about the same about of muslims. I call a tie.

I think you will find polls that show that a very large percentage of the Islamic population supports OBL & his cause. By this standard, he wins. I don't think Moonbeam meant to say that, I mean that would mean admitting someone is mroe teh eval than Bush, but that's the case.

 

[raildogg]

wow you are a idiot. comparing Bush to Osama? can we blame Clinton for the USS Cole attack that killed 18 sailors? no we cant because its obsurd, just like your idiotic post

 

[SirStev0]

god damn ... where is the poll at ...

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: raildogg
you are a idiot.

If you can't answer the OP's question, maybe you should just stay away huh?

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: SirStev0
god damn ... where is the poll at ...

PM him.

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: zzzz

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Non-American deaths are meaningless.

Yet, somehow you think removing Saddam was fine because "He was killng his own pepople" (the latest excuse for war by bush)

I personally think the war is justified purely for the oil extraction business once that takes place.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus

Originally posted by: zzzz

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Non-American deaths are meaningless.

Yet, somehow you think removing Saddam was fine because "He was killng his own pepople" (the latest excuse for war by bush)

I personally think the war is justified purely for the oil extraction business once that takes place.

Did you post in the "summarize your belief system in one line" thread? I'd really be curious to see what you have to see. Based on your recent posts it would seem your belief system is: kill and steal and don't feel bad about it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: DonVito
I don't think President Bush is evil at all. Paul Wolfowitz, on the other hand . . .

Bush isn't smart enough to be evil

What Bush has let happen to this country over the past 4 years is evil... (puts on flame suit)

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The worst between the two is the one who has deluded the greater number of adherents. It is delusion that brings evil into the world.

THis might be a close one.

100 million americans v. about the same about of muslims. I call a tie.

I think you will find polls that show that a very large percentage of the Islamic population supports OBL & his cause. By this standard, he wins. I don't think Moonbeam meant to say that, I mean that would mean admitting someone is mroe teh eval than Bush, but that's the case.

I try to exercise caution in the use of my words to try as best I can to say what I mean. I try to think how what I say might be understood. Naturally I am not perfect and can easily make mistakes. This was not one of them. I said what I said with the full awareness that there are many many people who call themselves Muslims that believe as Osama does. One problem here though is that Osama is not the single source teacher of Wahabism. He is just another of disciple I believe. Of course Bush also didn't invent PNAC.

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: alchemize

Are you going to answer, Infodiversion, or not? Your icon is a parrot so why can't I make parrot noises? And you are a self-admitted troll. So, answer the question.

I guess I have to spell it out for you. :roll: I'm not sure if OBL had the final say on 911. If you have a link, link it. Then I'll tally up 3,000 in OBL's column.

Come on, man. That view just crosses the line, IMO. *shakes head*

 

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Infohawk
As TheSeige points out OBL isn't as connected to 9/11 as we had thought he was. Apparently he didn't even finance it and we know he didn't plan it. The current obsession with him needs to stop, but of course he should be brought to justice.

It depends on how you define evil. In terms of people who have died, Bush has caused more.

Well in that case, Infotroll, then Bush isn't responsible for Iraq. he didn't finance it, and he didn't plan it. The current obsession with him needs to stop.

A -> B doesn't mean B -> A.

The Reflexive Property states otherwise.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: TheAudit
Welcome to Dumbass Land.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: arsbanned

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: alchemize
Are you going to answer, Infodiversion, or not? Your icon is a parrot so why can't I make parrot noises? And you are a self-admitted troll. So, answer the question.

I guess I have to spell it out for you. :roll: I'm not sure if OBL had the final say on 911. If you have a link, link it. Then I'll tally up 3,000 in OBL's column.

Come on, man. That view just crosses the line, IMO. *shakes head*

I'm not so sure. Put aside what you believe for a moment and focus on what you really know. While I'm inclined to believe OBL was behind 9/11, I realize this belief was formed mostly from information provided by the Bush administration. As we know now too well, the Bush administration is capable of distorting information to match its agenda. I can't honestly say I know OBL was behind 9/11. All I can say is I assume he was based on possibly misleading information.

That raises interesting questions. Does anyone have links to independent sources of information corroborating the OBL-9/11 link? Can we determine the level and extent of his involvement? If it wasn't OBL, who else would have the motive and means to attack like that?

Before the YABAs rush in to attack after ignoring most of what I said, let me be crystal clear. I do believe Osama bin Laden was directly connected to 9/11. I am objective enough, however, to recognize there is a chance I was manipulated into holding that belief.

 

[TheSiege]

i put bush, he has manipulated more people, and killed more innocent people, with out a clear cause IMO

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: cobalt

A -> B doesn't mean B -> A.

The Reflexive Property states otherwise. [/quote]

The arrows meant causation, not equals.

 

[Infohawk]

and Bush is off to an early lead...

 

[Alistar7]

Did bush get credit for stopping the UN Oil For Bribes Program that was directly repsonsible for the death of over 10,000 Iraqis a month during it's glorious corrupt tenure? How long has it been since we removed Saddam, at 10,000+ a month I think bush is way ahead. Does he get extra credit for not restoring, but giving, certain liberties and freedoms any normal human being would kill or die for to 25,000,000 plus people, MOST of which never enjoyed any basic human rights at all.

I wish I could give Senior OleMamaAsshat (OSBL) credit for personally flying a plane into a building, but hes a coward, those that actually do his dirty work are at least brave enough to die for their beliefs.

Would you agree the 9/11 attack was an attempt to cause maximum harm to as many innocent people as possible? How many innocent people do you think Bush COULD kill if he used the best option available to him under that pretext? Has he, do you see the difference yet?

BTW you are forgetting a tremendous amount of lives OSBL and his minions have taken in multiple acts around the globe.....

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
a tremendous amount of lives OSBL and his minions have taken in multiple acts around the globe.....

How many and how directly was he connected to each one?

 

[Alistar7]

BTW THE BELOW POST IS SARCASM, intended to remind the masses of the intentional EVIL acts certain people have employed to kill innocent people.






Don't bother to answer that question, your in Utah. I plan on taking over Utah soon, I have enough weapons now. I'll just throw you in the wood chopper after I rape your wife in front of you and behead your son....

Welcome to ATPN

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Alistar7
a tremendous amount of lives OSBL and his minions have taken in multiple acts around the globe.....

How many and how directly was he connected to each one?

Not exactly sure of the EXACT number of people killed by AQ or EXACT number of attacks, are you not aware of their "work"??????

I would have to say that as leader of AQ he would be responsible for all of them, just as Hitler was responsible for every holocaust victim......

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Alistar7
a tremendous amount of lives OSBL and his minions have taken in multiple acts around the globe.....

How many and how directly was he connected to each one?

Not exactly sure of the EXACT number of people killed by AQ or EXACT number of attacks, are you not aware of their "work"??????

I would have to say that as leader of AQ he would be responsible for all of them, just as Hitler was responsible for every holocaust victim......

You don't have to be exact.

Also, it seems like most of the attacks are by groups with only a loose collection to bin laden. It doesn't seem like there's much of a chain of command.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: arsbanned

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: alchemize
Are you going to answer, Infodiversion, or not? Your icon is a parrot so why can't I make parrot noises? And you are a self-admitted troll. So, answer the question.

I guess I have to spell it out for you. :roll: I'm not sure if OBL had the final say on 911. If you have a link, link it. Then I'll tally up 3,000 in OBL's column.

Come on, man. That view just crosses the line, IMO. *shakes head*

I'm not so sure. Put aside what you believe for a moment and focus on what you really know. While I'm inclined to believe OBL was behind 9/11, I realize this belief was formed mostly from information provided by the Bush administration. As we know now too well, the Bush administration is capable of distorting information to match its agenda. I can't honestly say I know OBL was behind 9/11. All I can say is I assume he was based on possibly misleading information.

That raises interesting questions. Does anyone have links to independent sources of information corroborating the OBL-9/11 link? Can we determine the level and extent of his involvement? If it wasn't OBL, who else would have the motive and means to attack like that?

Before the YABAs rush in to attack after ignoring most of what I said, let me be crystal clear. I do believe Osama bin Laden was directly connected to 9/11. I am objective enough, however, to recognize there is a chance I was manipulated into holding that belief.

So the 9/11 report wasn't good enough for you...

Yes, it could have been the Trilateral comission.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Alistar7
a tremendous amount of lives OSBL and his minions have taken in multiple acts around the globe.....

How many and how directly was he connected to each one?

Not exactly sure of the EXACT number of people killed by AQ or EXACT number of attacks, are you not aware of their "work"??????

I would have to say that as leader of AQ he would be responsible for all of them, just as Hitler was responsible for every holocaust victim......

You don't have to be exact.

Also, it seems like most of the attacks are by groups with only a loose collection to bin laden. It doesn't seem like there's much of a chain of command.

Fine, well call them loosely affiliated franchises then, lol, WTF is your point? OK, ya convinced me, Bush is more evil than OSBL if you can prove Bush instructed his military to intenionally kill any innocent people. I'll give you 5 minutes......

10/22/2004 01:57 PM