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Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Non-American deaths are meaningless.


I nominate that post as the dumb@ss post of the day. I also 2nd and 3rd that nomination! :|

I hope I took your statement out of context...I really do.


Alchemize seems to have a troll of the year award competition. Maybe he can put lordtyranus's troll in his sig? :confused:
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: alchemize
So, Infosquawk, you are saying that OBL isn't the leader of Al Qaida, but Bush is the leader of our armed forces? Just trying to follow your illogic.

You sure are an angry troll. :roll: Again, nice personal flame against the rules of the forum.

What I'm saying is that OBL didn't plan or finance 911 so I'm not sure how he's responsible for the evil it was. Bush on the other hand had the final say in the attack on Iraq. If OBL really was a but for cause of 911 then yeah, he's responsible for it. Bush has still caused more deaths though.

So let's confirm, Infocawk: You don't believe OBL had the final say or approval of 9/11? For the record, please.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: alchemize
So, Infosquawk, you are saying that OBL isn't the leader of Al Qaida, but Bush is the leader of our armed forces? Just trying to follow your illogic.

You sure are an angry troll. :roll: Again, nice personal flame against the rules of the forum.

What I'm saying is that OBL didn't plan or finance 911 so I'm not sure how he's responsible for the evil it was . Bush on the other hand had the final say in the attack on Iraq. If OBL really was a but for cause of 911 then yeah, he's responsible for it. Bush has still caused more deaths though.

So let's confirm, Infocawk: You don't believe OBL had the final say or approval of 9/11? For the record, please.

Read closer. I bolded for you.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Bush is just not competent, Hussien is evil.

Hussein == OBL ??

Whee.. the brainwashing has worked! :p (j/k)
DOH!! The side effects of watching the Red Sox Nation defeat the real Evil Empire way late into the night over the last few days (daze);)

 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: alchemize
So, Infosquawk, you are saying that OBL isn't the leader of Al Qaida, but Bush is the leader of our armed forces? Just trying to follow your illogic.

You sure are an angry troll. :roll: Again, nice personal flame against the rules of the forum.

What I'm saying is that OBL didn't plan or finance 911 so I'm not sure how he's responsible for the evil it was . Bush on the other hand had the final say in the attack on Iraq. If OBL really was a but for cause of 911 then yeah, he's responsible for it. Bush has still caused more deaths though.

So let's confirm, Infocawk: You don't believe OBL had the final say or approval of 9/11? For the record, please.

Read closer. I bolded for you.

Are you going to answer, Infodiversion, or not? Your icon is a parrot so why can't I make parrot noises? And you are a self-admitted troll. So, answer the question.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: alchemize

Are you going to answer, Infodiversion, or not? Your icon is a parrot so why can't I make parrot noises? And you are a self-admitted troll. So, answer the question.

I guess I have to spell it out for you. :roll: I'm not sure if OBL had the final say on 911. If you have a link, link it. Then I'll tally up 3,000 in OBL's column.

And when did I say I was a troll?
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: alchemize

Are you going to answer, Infodiversion, or not? Your icon is a parrot so why can't I make parrot noises? And you are a self-admitted troll. So, answer the question.

I guess I have to spell it out for you. :roll: I'm not sure if OBL had the final say on 911. If you have a link, link it. Then I'll tally up 3,000 in OBL's column.

And when did I say I was a troll?
I guess I have to slow it down for you.

1) Do you believe OBL is/was the leader of Al- Qaida? If no, stop, readjust your tinfoil. If yes, go to #2

2) Do you believe Al-Qaida carried out the attacks of 9/11? If no, stop, readjust your tinfoil, If yes, go to #3

3) Do you believe the leader of Al-Qaida would not have final approval of the attacks of 9/11? If no, you are an idiot or lying. If yes, you've lied in your previous posts.

I don't expect an honest answer, but sometimes bantering with trolls passes the time.

 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: alchemize

Are you going to answer, Infodiversion, or not? Your icon is a parrot so why can't I make parrot noises? And you are a self-admitted troll. So, answer the question.

I guess I have to spell it out for you. :roll: I'm not sure if OBL had the final say on 911. If you have a link, link it. Then I'll tally up 3,000 in OBL's column.

And when did I say I was a troll?
I guess I have to slow it down for you.

1) Do you believe OBL is/was the leader of Al- Qaida? If no, stop, readjust your tinfoil. If yes, go to #2

2) Do you believe Al-Qaida carried out the attacks of 9/11? If no, stop, readjust your tinfoil, If yes, go to #3

3) Do you believe the leader of Al-Qaida would not have final approval of the attacks of 9/11? If no, you are an idiot or lying. If yes, you've lied in your previous posts.

I don't expect an honest answer, but sometimes bantering with trolls passes the time.

I answered these questions. (And I notice you couldn't back up the self-professed troll comment).
 
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Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Are you kidding?

I concur with Bush being worse. That's like calling terrorists cowards. Simply factually incorrect.

Why are you afraid of terrorism? Is it because there was an attck in the US since 9/11? Or is it because the media and the republican mouthpieces keep scaring you?

I'm nto afreaid of terrorists at this point. The only reason I'm afraid is because of the Bush campaign. It's VERY strit forward. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

So yes, Bush is the bigger threat to this country.
 
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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Non-American deaths are meaningless.


I nominate that post as the dumb@ss post of the day. I also 2nd and 3rd that nomination! :|

I hope I took your statement out of context...I really do.

I will give the 3rd, 4th and 5th nomination.

Fact 1) Every single enemy death hightens the cause of terrorists and their drive to hurt us.

Care to add 2,3,4,etc?
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: alchemize

Are you going to answer, Infodiversion, or not? Your icon is a parrot so why can't I make parrot noises? And you are a self-admitted troll. So, answer the question.

I guess I have to spell it out for you. :roll: I'm not sure if OBL had the final say on 911. If you have a link, link it. Then I'll tally up 3,000 in OBL's column.

And when did I say I was a troll?
I guess I have to slow it down for you.

1) Do you believe OBL is/was the leader of Al- Qaida? If no, stop, readjust your tinfoil. If yes, go to #2

2) Do you believe Al-Qaida carried out the attacks of 9/11? If no, stop, readjust your tinfoil, If yes, go to #3

3) Do you believe the leader of Al-Qaida would not have final approval of the attacks of 9/11? If no, you are an idiot or lying. If yes, you've lied in your previous posts.

I don't expect an honest answer, but sometimes bantering with trolls passes the time.

I answered these questions. (And I notice you couldn't back up the self-professed troll comment).

Well maybe I'm just not as smart as you, Infobrains...I don't see an answer to any of those three. Please answer each of the 3 questions directly. They are very simple questions. I think not answering proves that you are a troll. They are specific, they are relevant, and they are completely on-topic.
 

EDoG2K

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1) Do you believe OBL is/was the leader of Al- Qaida? If no, stop, readjust your tinfoil. If yes, go to #2

2) Do you believe Al-Qaida carried out the attacks of 9/11? If no, stop, readjust your tinfoil, If yes, go to #3

3) Do you believe the leader of Al-Qaida would not have final approval of the attacks of 9/11? If no, you are an idiot or lying. If yes, you've lied in your previous posts.




Al-Quida is a loosely tied network of radical factions. OBL would have supported/encouraged the actions of the hijackers of 9/11 and may or may not have been directly involved in the planning. Al-Qaida did carry out the attacks of 9/11, but FINAL APPROVAL? for 10 guys to hijack plans and crash them? They probably did not communicate all that closely with Afganistan and OBL for most of the planning process, as there were not that many people involved, and to be honest, the plan was not all that clever! You don't need to be a mastermind to think of crashing a plane into a building.

That said, OBL has a loose connection to around 3000 deaths on 9/11.

Bush has a dead-solid connection to 1100+ american and 20000+ iraqi civilian lives.

You do the math, sucker.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: alchemize

I answered these questions. (And I notice you couldn't back up the self-professed troll comment).

Well maybe I'm just not as smart as you, Infobrains...I don't see an answer to any of those three. Please answer each of the 3 questions directly. They are very simple questions. I think not answering proves that you are a troll. They are specific, they are relevant, and they are completely on-topic.

(You said I was a self-professed troll. You have NOT backed it up. Nice personal attack though.)

I answered your question: I'm not sure. Yes, you may not be as smart as me. That might why you don't understand what "I'm not sure" and "if" means. This is going to be my last post to you on this topic since you are trying to drown out the thread in a pissing match.

I think EDoG2K said it nicely here:

OBL has a loose connection to around 3000 deaths on 9/11.

Bush has a dead-solid connection to 1100+ american and 20000+ iraqi civilian lives.

You do the math, sucker.
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: whitecloak
both of them are assholes though osama is ,by far, the bigger one!

you just feel that way because osama attacked us.... im sure if you live in iraq youd feel differently


(straps on flame resistant suit)
 

miketheidiot

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Bush has killed far more people from a far smaller population. 20000 dead from a population of 30 million (or about 1 in 1500) compared to OBL/alquada killing 3000 out of 300 million, (or 1 out of 100,000) Not to mention the whole honesty thing. Not counting the whole killing thing they are about equal. Both are insane in very similar ways.
 

lordtyranus

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Originally posted by: EDoG2K
1) Do you believe OBL is/was the leader of Al- Qaida? If no, stop, readjust your tinfoil. If yes, go to #2

2) Do you believe Al-Qaida carried out the attacks of 9/11? If no, stop, readjust your tinfoil, If yes, go to #3

3) Do you believe the leader of Al-Qaida would not have final approval of the attacks of 9/11? If no, you are an idiot or lying. If yes, you've lied in your previous posts.




Al-Quida is a loosely tied network of radical factions. OBL would have supported/encouraged the actions of the hijackers of 9/11 and may or may not have been directly involved in the planning. Al-Qaida did carry out the attacks of 9/11, but FINAL APPROVAL? for 10 guys to hijack plans and crash them? They probably did not communicate all that closely with Afganistan and OBL for most of the planning process, as there were not that many people involved, and to be honest, the plan was not all that clever! You don't need to be a mastermind to think of crashing a plane into a building.

That said, OBL has a loose connection to around 3000 deaths on 9/11.

Bush has a dead-solid connection to 1100+ american and 20000+ iraqi civilian lives.

You do the math, sucker.

You think Osama has not killed more people pre and post 9-11?

Besides, if we are talking about raw genocide counts, neither of these 2 guys should really be on the radar as "evil"
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Besides, if we are talking about raw genocide counts, neither of these 2 guys should really be on the radar as "evil"

Do you know what genocide means?
 

AntiEverything

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Churchill and FDR are among the most evil men in the history of the world. Think of all those Germans they killed.

:roll:
 

rahvin

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I really wish people would stop abusing the genocide label. Hitlers final solution was genocide, the tutsi masacare was genocide. 9/11 and what's going on in the middle east aren't even close. Genocide is when an entire ethnic group of people is trying to be wiped from the earth. There are hundereds of millions of arabs and americans in this world and neither event even comes close to genocide so STOP ABUSING THE LABEL.
 

Moonbeam

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The worst between the two is the one who has deluded the greater number of adherents. It is delusion that brings evil into the world.