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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
RSX is boring, it doesn't really open up until you get really high up and by that time what's the point?

Engine has no balls either.

The point is to keep it 'really high up' -- they rev high for a reason..

CR: you understand the concept of a manual transmission right?

Yes, but to me I'd rather have low end torque and power than have to get up to about 50mph to really feel the engine shine, not everyone lives near vast stretches of road without cops all over it.
 
Originally posted by: alent1234
Originally posted by: acemcmac
I've been shopping around for one car, and one car only. Posted a thread about it the other day.

I want a WS6, 2002 Firebird Trans AM with RamAir and a 6-speed transmission.

I drove out to the dealership to take a look at one with the automatic the other day.... just to try to talk myself out of it....

anyhow, got a call about 5 minutes ago, went like this

"Hi, Acemcmac, this is scott from your local friendly chevrolet dealer. We just got an amazing trade and I thought of you as soon as it came in. It's really fast, just like you were asking.... it's a 6-speed Acura RSX Type S with 14k miles."

I just sorta sat there stunned for a minute.

How do you get from a 5.7L 300-350hp something nasty american rear wheel drive monster to a FWD rice burning fart box that probably costs more anyway?!?!?!

grrr.... I can't imagine actually paying money for an FWD car at this time in my life....



unless you get a crazy deal because GM can't sell it's cars I wouldn't buy a new GM car. The first 2 years depreciation will kill you. If you want a trans am, find one that is around 2 years old and you will get a nice deal on it.

you obviously did not read the post nor are you aware that the f-bodies have been dead for almost 2 years now. for being such an asshat, your sentence is to find Mill a goat.
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
RSX is boring, it doesn't really open up until you get really high up and by that time what's the point?

Engine has no balls either.

The point is to keep it 'really high up' -- they rev high for a reason..

Maybe, but in city traffic it feels like exactly what it is, an expensive honda.

Then why buy a T/A when he can get a Sunfire and rice it out to look like one? :roll:

- M4H

Because that costs more in the end.
 
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
RSX is boring, it doesn't really open up until you get really high up and by that time what's the point?

Engine has no balls either.

The point is to keep it 'really high up' -- they rev high for a reason..


That is because it has ho torque whatsoever. It is nothing more than an expensive Honda with a little engine. Torque makes all the difference in the world, go drive a real car and you will see what I mean. It is possible these days to have a V8, rear wheel drive, and decent gas mileage if you drive it properly so there is no reason to buy a car with a hummingbird for an engine if that is NOT WHAT YOU WANT.
 
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
RSX is boring, it doesn't really open up until you get really high up and by that time what's the point?

Engine has no balls either.

The point is to keep it 'really high up' -- they rev high for a reason..

Maybe, but in city traffic it feels like exactly what it is, an expensive honda.

Then why buy a T/A when he can get a Sunfire and rice it out to look like one? :roll:

- M4H

Because that costs more in the end.

Lets not overlook the obvious. I'd pay money to a man who can show me a sunfire doing 0-60 in anything close to 5 seconds, let alone break 100mph....
 
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
RSX is boring, it doesn't really open up until you get really high up and by that time what's the point?

Engine has no balls either.

The point is to keep it 'really high up' -- they rev high for a reason..


That is because it has ho torque whatsoever. It is nothing more than an expensive Honda with a little engine. Torque makes all the difference in the world, go drive a real car and you will see what I mean. It is possible these days to have a V8, rear wheel drive, and decent gas mileage if you drive it properly so there is no reason to buy a car with a hummingbird for an engine if that is NOT WHAT YOU WANT.

Exactly, thank you.
 
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
RSX is boring, it doesn't really open up until you get really high up and by that time what's the point?

Engine has no balls either.

The point is to keep it 'really high up' -- they rev high for a reason..

CR: you understand the concept of a manual transmission right?

Yes, but to me I'd rather have low end torque and power than have to get up to about 50mph to really feel the engine shine, not everyone lives near vast stretches of road without cops all over it.

Tell me, have you ever driven an RSX, S2000, or even a 99/00 Si?

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
RSX is boring, it doesn't really open up until you get really high up and by that time what's the point?

Engine has no balls either.

The point is to keep it 'really high up' -- they rev high for a reason..

CR: you understand the concept of a manual transmission right?

Yes, but to me I'd rather have low end torque and power than have to get up to about 50mph to really feel the engine shine, not everyone lives near vast stretches of road without cops all over it.

Tell me, have you ever driven an RSX, S2000, or even a 99/00 Si?

- M4H

Edit: read that as NSX sorry.

Yes, I have driven the RSX and the Type-S a lot, I was considering buying one but decided against it.
 
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
RSX is boring, it doesn't really open up until you get really high up and by that time what's the point?

Engine has no balls either.

The point is to keep it 'really high up' -- they rev high for a reason..


That is because it has ho torque whatsoever. It is nothing more than an expensive Honda with a little engine. Torque makes all the difference in the world, go drive a real car and you will see what I mean. It is possible these days to have a V8, rear wheel drive, and decent gas mileage if you drive it properly so there is no reason to buy a car with a hummingbird for an engine if that is NOT WHAT YOU WANT.

but you still won't win ultimate handling races....

I gave up my mustangs a long time ago, at least the corvette has class.
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
RSX is boring, it doesn't really open up until you get really high up and by that time what's the point?

Engine has no balls either.

The point is to keep it 'really high up' -- they rev high for a reason..

CR: you understand the concept of a manual transmission right?

Yes, but to me I'd rather have low end torque and power than have to get up to about 50mph to really feel the engine shine, not everyone lives near vast stretches of road without cops all over it.

Tell me, have you ever driven an RSX, S2000, or even a 99/00 Si?

- M4H

It won't drive like a rear wheel drive car!!! For someone who campaings so mercilessly against ricers, I'd think you of all people should be able to respect that I don't want to race around in an SRT NEON!
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
RSX is boring, it doesn't really open up until you get really high up and by that time what's the point?

Engine has no balls either.

The point is to keep it 'really high up' -- they rev high for a reason..


That is because it has ho torque whatsoever. It is nothing more than an expensive Honda with a little engine. Torque makes all the difference in the world, go drive a real car and you will see what I mean. It is possible these days to have a V8, rear wheel drive, and decent gas mileage if you drive it properly so there is no reason to buy a car with a hummingbird for an engine if that is NOT WHAT YOU WANT.

but you still won't win ultimate handling races....

I gave up my mustangs a long time ago, at least the corvette has class.

who said it had to be a race either? I really enjoy backroading, alone, in the middle of the night, and my mustang (aside from its lacking of real power or manual tranmission) has never failed to dissapoint me
 
That happened to me too. I was negotiating on a 2002 Mustang GT, It was brand new at the time, and We hit a wall in deals. Then the sales guy says to me. "What do you think of the Focus" I was dumbfounded!
 
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
RSX is boring, it doesn't really open up until you get really high up and by that time what's the point?

Engine has no balls either.

The point is to keep it 'really high up' -- they rev high for a reason..

CR: you understand the concept of a manual transmission right?

Yes, but to me I'd rather have low end torque and power than have to get up to about 50mph to really feel the engine shine, not everyone lives near vast stretches of road without cops all over it.

Tell me, have you ever driven an RSX, S2000, or even a 99/00 Si?

- M4H

It won't drive like a rear wheel drive car!!! For someone who campaings so mercilessly against ricers, I'd think you of all people should be able to respect that I don't want to race around in an SRT NEON!

😕

RSX = Neon? What have you been smoking?

Oh, and for someone like you who thinks sliding sideways is the best way to stop, I'd suggest a Kia Rio.

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
RSX is boring, it doesn't really open up until you get really high up and by that time what's the point?

Engine has no balls either.

The point is to keep it 'really high up' -- they rev high for a reason..

Maybe, but in city traffic it feels like exactly what it is, an expensive honda.

Then why buy a T/A when he can get a Sunfire and rice it out to look like one? :roll:

- M4H

Because that costs more in the end.

Lets not overlook the obvious. I'd pay money to a man who can show me a sunfire doing 0-60 in anything close to 5 seconds, let alone break 100mph....

Whatever you just bet, hand it over.

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: jumpr
I'd much rather have a reliable, tightly-built RSX-S than a huge, jiggly monster of a car like a WS6 Trans Am.

Do what you want though. As an experienced snow driver, I wouldn't drive ANYTHING in PA other than FWD.

As a semi-experienced snow driver that spends way too much time on your shotty PA roads, I agree with you. Your pansy roads are utterly incompatible with all forms of RWD+Snow driving.

If you've never driven in PA before, you won't know what I'm talking about - but their highways are concrete slab with merge lanes 20 feet long, their rural roads are barely concrete and ride more like dirt roads, and their urban roads are like, all cobblestone. WTF.

I don't know where in PA you've driven, but I live just outside Philadelphia, and aside from Philadelphia's sh[/b]itty roads, the rest of this area is fine. There are only 'concrete slabs' on the highways when you're on a bridge, the rest of our highways are asphalt. Ride like dirt roads? Like I said, I have no idea where you've been, the roads here are very nice.

Originally posted by: FreshFish
In related news, you're M4H's lapdog apparantly 😀

In related news, your attempt to be funny is denied! 😀
 
I don't blame you.

There is no comparison there in so many different areas.

I guess I'll just post this and leave as there is no way this isn't gonna be a flame war with all the ricers.
 
Originally posted by: acemcmac

who said it had to be a race either? I really enjoy backroading, alone, in the middle of the night, and my mustang (aside from its lacking of real power or manual tranmission) has never failed to dissapoint me

You aren't driving then hehehehehheh

in about 1992 I ran out of road at over 100mph in my 1988 GT, it's not fun trying to stop on gravel.

I got a 137mph ticket in 1990 in my 66 GT that I got out of.

both cars had 10's of thousands invested....both pushed out of turns or didn't but were to harsh as a daily driver.

now I am in a 240SX, 1998 SE....it will be a 12 to 13 sec car capable of 1g and turn out double digit mpg and yes the rear wheels are the driving wheels.

The late 944 turbos are equally capable....but harder to find the interior in good shape

 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: acemcmac

who said it had to be a race either? I really enjoy backroading, alone, in the middle of the night, and my mustang (aside from its lacking of real power or manual tranmission) has never failed to dissapoint me

You aren't driving then hehehehehheh

in about 1992 I ran out of road at over 100mph in my 1988 GT, it's not fun trying to stop on gravel.

I got a 137mph ticket in 1990 in my 66 GT that I got out of.

both cars had 10's of thousands invested....both pushed out of turns or didn't but were to harsh as a daily driver.

now I am in a 240SX, 1998 SE....it will be a 12 to 13 sec car capable of 1g and turn out double digit mpg and yes the rear wheels are the driving wheels.

The late 944 turbos are equally capable....but harder to find the interior in good shape

You finally ditched the Saturn? :Q 😀

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
RSX is boring, it doesn't really open up until you get really high up and by that time what's the point?

Engine has no balls either.

The point is to keep it 'really high up' -- they rev high for a reason..

CR: you understand the concept of a manual transmission right?

Yes, but to me I'd rather have low end torque and power than have to get up to about 50mph to really feel the engine shine, not everyone lives near vast stretches of road without cops all over it.

Tell me, have you ever driven an RSX, S2000, or even a 99/00 Si?

- M4H

It won't drive like a rear wheel drive car!!! For someone who campaings so mercilessly against ricers, I'd think you of all people should be able to respect that I don't want to race around in an SRT NEON!

😕

RSX = Neon? What have you been smoking?

Oh, and for someone like you who thinks sliding sideways is the best way to stop, I'd suggest a Kia Rio.

- M4H

Quite frankly, this is a thread about loyalties. You all have different tastes and militantly believe that everyone else should adhere to them.

Personally, I'd prefer a semitruck to any of the junk you guys have mentioned in this thread. Speed + power + size + range = OMGWTFGBYECIVIC
 
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: jumpr
I'd much rather have a reliable, tightly-built RSX-S than a huge, jiggly monster of a car like a WS6 Trans Am.

Do what you want though. As an experienced snow driver, I wouldn't drive ANYTHING in PA other than FWD.

As a semi-experienced snow driver that spends way too much time on your shotty PA roads, I agree with you. Your pansy roads are utterly incompatible with all forms of RWD+Snow driving.

If you've never driven in PA before, you won't know what I'm talking about - but their highways are concrete slab with merge lanes 20 feet long, their rural roads are barely concrete and ride more like dirt roads, and their urban roads are like, all cobblestone. WTF.

I don't know where in PA you've driven, but I live just outside Philadelphia, and aside from Philadelphia's sh[/b]itty roads, the rest of this area is fine. There are only 'concrete slabs' on the highways when you're on a bridge, the rest of our highways are asphalt. Ride like dirt roads? Like I said, I have no idea where you've been, the roads here are very nice.

Virtually the entire southern end of the state.
 
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: jumpr
I'd much rather have a reliable, tightly-built RSX-S than a huge, jiggly monster of a car like a WS6 Trans Am.

Do what you want though. As an experienced snow driver, I wouldn't drive ANYTHING in PA other than FWD.

As a semi-experienced snow driver that spends way too much time on your shotty PA roads, I agree with you. Your pansy roads are utterly incompatible with all forms of RWD+Snow driving.

If you've never driven in PA before, you won't know what I'm talking about - but their highways are concrete slab with merge lanes 20 feet long, their rural roads are barely concrete and ride more like dirt roads, and their urban roads are like, all cobblestone. WTF.

I don't know where in PA you've driven, but I live just outside Philadelphia, and aside from Philadelphia's sh[/b]itty roads, the rest of this area is fine. There are only 'concrete slabs' on the highways when you're on a bridge, the rest of our highways are asphalt. Ride like dirt roads? Like I said, I have no idea where you've been, the roads here are very nice.

Virtually the entire southern end of the state.

Mmm yeah, well, I haven't encountered any of these condititions you've described. However, I wouldn't want to drive in Philadelphia after it snows, their snow removal crews suck.
 
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: jumpr
I'd much rather have a reliable, tightly-built RSX-S than a huge, jiggly monster of a car like a WS6 Trans Am.

Do what you want though. As an experienced snow driver, I wouldn't drive ANYTHING in PA other than FWD.

As a semi-experienced snow driver that spends way too much time on your shotty PA roads, I agree with you. Your pansy roads are utterly incompatible with all forms of RWD+Snow driving.

If you've never driven in PA before, you won't know what I'm talking about - but their highways are concrete slab with merge lanes 20 feet long, their rural roads are barely concrete and ride more like dirt roads, and their urban roads are like, all cobblestone. WTF.

I don't know where in PA you've driven, but I live just outside Philadelphia, and aside from Philadelphia's sh[/b]itty roads, the rest of this area is fine. There are only 'concrete slabs' on the highways when you're on a bridge, the rest of our highways are asphalt. Ride like dirt roads? Like I said, I have no idea where you've been, the roads here are very nice.

Virtually the entire southern end of the state.

Mmm yeah, well, I haven't encountered any of these condititions you've described. However, I wouldn't want to drive in Philadelphia after it snows, their snow removal crews suck.

Lets see... Two exceptional examples are York County (I-83 is a concrete slab road and all the other roads around there suck) and wherever the hell Gettysburg is.
 
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