So our priest denied our daughter's baptism...

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Nik

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Two totally different things.
One is grouping based on assumption, the other is grouping by fact. People who have all or nothing thinking tend to reply like you did.

See, your second sentence reinforces my observation that you're doing exactly what you're chastising others for. Thanks for proving my point, bud.
 

Nik

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They also don't worship Mary. LOL

Pray to her = revere her in a position equal to God. Helloooooooo, do we not remember the whole rip of the veil during christ's death? Of course not, we'd rather ignore Christ telling us that we can pray directly to GtF and that Christ himself will intercede for us to the Father

First commandment, too, bitches.

Why would you pray to a dead person?

You folks should do your homework.
 

Nik

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I fail to understand the differences, but like putting people in groups, assume that they're all in "the group" for the same reasons, ignore anything to the contrary such as a long history of statistics that would suggest the conclusions people draw resulting in "groups" are correct. This will then put ME into the group of people who put others into groups, but I'll deny it, and act as though I don't stereotype or anything and am somehow better than they are.

Fixed.
 

xCxStylex

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Why would he punish your daughter over your behavior? I don't get it.

Seriously. My personal stance on all religions aside, I find this priest is immature and his ideals are NOT in line with what mine would be if I were a religious person.

If I were a priest and I thought the family could be more dedicated (read could attend more often), then perhaps a baptism of their child could be the way to bring them to church more often.


But objectively.... Is this really a guy you want your daughter listening to? f---tradition. Get it knocked out of your head. I know it probably means a lot to you since you were baptized and married there, but what does that truly mean? What does it really mean? In the grand scheme of things, religious views included, what does having your daughter baptized at that specific church REALLY mean?

IMO, nothing. Find a better church and you can start a tradition of your family being baptized there.
 

Wyndru

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I'm kind of flabbergasted why you're so bent out of shape about some random guy saying he won't put water on your daughter. I know it's a bigger deal for the religion, but its obvious you don't take it all that seriously. If you find church a chore, then you're simply not interested in the religion... Just whatever parts are most convenient for you. I just don't get why certain parts of this magic book are more important than others.

wtf is with so many people quick to judge my faith, when they don't know shit about me or my family. Please read more than my first post. In repeated posts (throughout what has turned into a cesspool of ridiculous arguments not related to baptism or religious attendance), I mentioned that I want to change our habits and attend more frequently like I did when I was younger. I have spent my whole life at this church, and take the religion very seriously. When I was in my 20's I moved quite a bit between colleges and cities, and now that my wife and I are settled and have a child, I would like a church that would not turn away our daughter.

Thankfully the roman catholic priest that we met with at another church this week also shares my view, and is very surprised that any priest would do this. He stated that required attendance is not a measure of faith, and he accepted us without any prerequisites. Also, my nephew who didn't have enough money at our other church to do his confirmation retreat is also going to join. The new parish said they just do some community service, rather than send the kids on an expensive vacation labeled as a retreat. It actually worked out for me and my sister's family.
 
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Homerboy

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Pray to her = revere her in a position equal to God. Helloooooooo, do we not remember the whole rip of the veil during christ's death? Of course not, we'd rather ignore Christ telling us that we can pray directly to GtF and that Christ himself will intercede for us to the Father

First commandment, too, bitches.

Why would you pray to a dead person?

You folks should do your homework.

You really need to learn before you speak.
 

hellotyler

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I wish people followed the tenants of the book more closely. Jesus was a pacifist and somebody who would accept with open arms the outcast members of society. Not exclude them. Especially not an innocent little girl. IMO religion has largely been corrupted, but there is always personal faith.
 
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JEDIYoda

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Originally Posted by AnnonUSA
When it came time to Receive communion, I took the host in my hand and began to walk back to my pew, where I would eat it.
Halfway back to the pew, i become aware of the Priest calling out "Excuse me! Excuse Me!" As I come to realize it is me he is yelling across the church at, he makes a motion to me to put the host in my mouth! Like what was I going to do? Sell it to someone? Shit.


I left Catholic school AND the Catholic Church after 5th grade and never looked back. I completely rejected it.

However, what YOU did was ignorant and offensive. You, as I, can disagree with and dislike the church all you wish, but there is zero excuse for your behavior inside their house of worship.

Your apparent ignorance is no excuse. To that priest and to everyone who was in that church when you did what you did, accepting that wafer into your mouth while kneeling at the altar is the literal body of Christ.

Your waltzing away with it was fucking IGNORANT.

Furthermore, no one not in a state of grace, ie, no one who has NOT been to confession prior to accepting this SACRAMENT and who not sinned at all since that confession may take part in this holy SACRAMENT.

You going up and helping yourself was BEYOND IGNORANT.

It was akin to waltzing into a mosque with your shoes on.

You don't like or agree with Islam, fine, but there is no need to be an ass in their house.

Same with Catholics.

When you enter another's house, any civilized, non-boorish asshole abides by that owner's rules, requests, mores and customs. This goes double and triple for any house of worship.

You fucked up big time, and there is no excuse for your ignorance.

Grow up and admit this to yourself.

I could not agree more!!
To make a point you don`t have to be disrespectful or ignorant in somebody elses house.....
 

Nik

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How is the priest refusing to flick water at a child punishing the child?
 

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Thankfully the roman catholic priest that we met with at another church this week also shares my view, and is very surprised that any priest would do this. He stated that required attendance is not a measure of faith, and he accepted us without any prerequisites. Also, my nephew who didn't have enough money at our other church to do his confirmation retreat is also going to join. The new parish said they just do some community service, rather than send the kids on an expensive vacation labeled as a retreat. It actually worked out for me and my sister's family.

Good that it worked out in the end then.
time to lock the thread imo
 

eits

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I'm kind of annoyed. The wife and I are Roman Catholic, and the reasoning was that we don't visit every week. I'll admit, we are pretty lax, we go on major religious holidays, probably about 6 times a year.

We fully intended on our daughter getting her baptism and eventually confirmation and attending fairly regularly while she is growing up. Yet we are actually being denied, and she is being punished because of our lack of attendance. I was baptized, confirmed and married at this parish too.

What I don't understand is that churches keep complaining about lack of parishioners, yet they push you away if you aren't dedicated to a weekly commitment.

wtf.

Sorry, I had to write this here to get it out, I'm still trying to cool down a bit before I email the priest back.

/rant

locked - constant bashing of the church without seriously addressing the OP & trolling -Admin DrPizza

hmmmm that doesn't sound like the catholic church at all... are you sure you offered enough money?
 

BoomerD

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Catholics do NOT believe this.
Only God can absolve sins.

"Say 5 "Hail Marys" and 10 "God our Fathers, then pull your pants down around your ankles and bend over the pew."

"Go and sin no more, my son."

:p
 

zinfamous

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Seriously. My personal stance on all religions aside, I find this priest is immature and his ideals are NOT in line with what mine would be if I were a religious person.

If I were a priest and I thought the family could be more dedicated (read could attend more often), then perhaps a baptism of their child could be the way to bring them to church more often.


But objectively.... Is this really a guy you want your daughter listening to? f---tradition. Get it knocked out of your head. I know it probably means a lot to you since you were baptized and married there, but what does that truly mean? What does it really mean? In the grand scheme of things, religious views included, what does having your daughter baptized at that specific church REALLY mean?

IMO, nothing. Find a better church and you can start a tradition of your family being baptized there.

yar. I think OP's wife's email interrupted the priest (he's on AOL, naturally) during a furious bout of Jesus fapping.

hence, he reacted all pissy.
 
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