No, really. There are a LOT of people in the Catholic organization who may not have been the ones with their hand down the kid's pants, but they're just as responsible by hiding it. I really don't care any less about the Catholic criminalhood's misdoings just because someone else does it too. For God's sake, they're supposed to be holy and shit.
And there you go. This is why your argument is flawed. Because some people do bad things, Everyone in the organization is responsible.
OH, okay I didn't see your link earlier. Well, that settles it. Schools do it too so Catholics shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. Gotcha.
And you accuse me of logical falicies? That has been your whole argument is one giant strawman. Where, in any of my posts did I say "Molesters should get a free pass?" Where did I even infer it? By your logic, we should abolish schools, government, humanity. because OMG there has been a coverup! The only solution is to abolish it and ridicule anyone that is or was a member of that organization!
The rest of its members give it a bad name for other reasons.
The point is that these "officers of the church body" who represent the church, who stand as a voice for the church and represent the church to the rest of the world, are the ones responsible for hiding their underling's evil. They ARE the face of the church and that face has a 2nd side.
Your right, officers of the church did do some reprehensible things. Your right, those that did it should be punished. What you are sorely mistaken in is your belief that every catholic is evil and the whole catholic church is evil as a result. That just does not hold weight with me.
It's not an appeal to emotions at all. It's an appeal to logic and reason. Those without kids or without interaction with kids do not understand as well as we do how precious and innocent kids are. I'd be willing to bet they care less about it than those with an investment in youth.
I actually have 40 nieces and nephews, and yes, I would be absolutely devastated if any of them were molested. I would seek to get the molester prosecuted to the full extent of the law (and hope to extend the extent of the law.)
That being said. If the person was a plumber, I wouldn't try to abolish all plumbers. If the boss of the plumber covered it up, I would litigate him to the full extent of the law, but I still wouldn't try to abolish all plumbers. If the head of the plumbers union was some how involved and tried to cover it up, I would try to prosecute him to the full extent of the law, but I STILL wouldn't try to abolish all plumbers.
Get the picture? Condemn the people that do the wrong, not the organization the individuals belong to.
Are you trying to say that I should ignore my emotional contribution to my opinion just because it's emotional? If I remove that, I'm going to be comparing child molestation on the same crime level as a car jacking or a pick pocket's slimy fingers.
That is absolutely what I am saying. Emotion has no place in a logical debate. All that it does is cloud your judgment and caue you to make rash statements.
I'm sorry, but child molesters deserve a special level of hell, right next to wolves-in-priest-clothing who prey on the trust of others.
I completely agree with this statement. I think child molesters should be eligible for the death penalty.
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