So my friends and I get out of a restaurant

[OOBradm]

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: Beachboy
What's the big deal? It's not like it's illegal or anything. :laugh:

lol. but honestly, since when are you a douche for calling the cops when someone is doing something ILLEGAL. Should he have called the cops if someone was getting raped? Obviously you guys don't think so, he should mind his own business.

then you should snitch at all times every time you see the slightest transgression of the law you should be on the phone with the police reporting it. Speeding, double parking, expired meters, jay walking, tresspassing the whole 9. no exceptions.

agree.....victimless crime. you can't compare that to someone being raped , I mean jesus..If they are dumb enough to do it outside in front of a restaraunt , then they will get caught without you wasting your time calling the cops on them.

"Towlie Says" hey kids, wanna get high ? ?
don't forget to bring a towel!

There is no such thing as a victimless crime. It's just how many levels you choose to evaluate the results of said crime.

So if our government declared that eating food was a crime, you'd consider that to be not a victimless crime and report people for doing so? A crime is a crime becasue the government says it is, not because it was declared by God that a certain action is hurting someone else. I like to think that I'm not a walking zombie by listening to what the government tells me is correct instead of blindly following to them

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: chambersc

There is no such thing as a victimless crime. It's just how many levels you choose to evaluate the results of said crime.

So who's the victim here? There certainly IS such a thing as a "victimless crime"; the above jaywalking example is another. Unless you cherry-pick the worst examples of each and hold them as the norm, in which case such things as alcohol, fireworks, and driving should also be illegal.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: OOBradm

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: Maxspeed996

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: Beachboy
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So if our government declared that eating food was a crime, you'd consider that to be not a victimless crime and report people for doing so? A crime is a crime becasue the government says it is, not because it was declared by God that a certain action is hurting someone else. I like to think that I'm not a walking zombie by listening to what the government tells me is correct instead of blindly following to them

The above situation is beyond impossible and the fact that you cannot list one plausible crime that isn't victimless further proves my point.

One doesn't have to be a mindless zombie to do a cost-benefit analysis on their actions and realize that more often than not it behooves us to follow the law. One of the components of a law is whether or not it is "enforced by the state" meaning that the 200 yr old law that says no cutting your lawn on sunday in a bathing suit isn't a law because it isn't enforced.

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: chambersc

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So who's the victim here? There certainly IS such a thing as a "victimless crime"; the above jaywalking example is another. Unless you cherry-pick the worst examples of each and hold them as the norm, in which case such things as alcohol, fireworks, and driving should also be illegal.

I'm not saying I do or will but you just defeated your own argument.

EDIT: Your specific examples are infact illegal in some parts of the US.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: chambersc

There is no such thing as a victimless crime. It's just how many levels you choose to evaluate the results of said crime.

So who's the victim here? There certainly IS such a thing as a "victimless crime"; the above jaywalking example is another. Unless you cherry-pick the worst examples of each and hold them as the norm, in which case such things as alcohol, fireworks, and driving should also be illegal.

At the very least, the children smoking the drugs are victims. And don't fool yourself, Highschool students are children.

Where I live:
1. Alcohol is illegal to drink if you are under 21.
2. Most fireworks are banned, you have to have a permit to even light firecrackers.
3. Driving is illegal unless you are licensed to drive.

If I saw a child doing any of the above, I would definately be concerned for thier safety and the safety of people around them. I don't know if I would call the cops, but I would consider it. You people getting all upset about the fact that people would consider calling the cops are being a bit hypocritical. If you think its alright for children to do drugs and break laws, then...

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: chambersc

So who's the victim here? There certainly IS such a thing as a "victimless crime"; the above jaywalking example is another. Unless you cherry-pick the worst examples of each and hold them as the norm, in which case such things as alcohol, fireworks, and driving should also be illegal.

I'm not saying I do or will but you just defeated your own argument.

EDIT: Your specific examples are infact illegal in some parts of the US.
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You'll have to explain this one to me. In most cases, smoking pot and jaywalking are victimless. Similarly, in most cases, alcohol, fireworks, and driving are victimless. All of these examples carry a certain element of risk, some more than others, but your average person participating in each of those actions comes away unharmed. How exactly did I defeat my own argument?

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: kmrivers
I think you should have called the cops.

One time I was waiting for the train and some YOUNG kids were passing things back and forth. I knew they were selling drugs, so I pulled out my phone and called a friend, they darted because they thought I was calling the cops. They obviously knew it was wrong.

The next time I saw them selling, I did call the cops. Maybe now they can learn something and avoid jail.

You sent some kids to jail so they could learn something and not go to jail again later?

You're an asshole. DIAF

Maybe those kids will realize how stupid they are and change their life.

The only ones ripping on the OP are probably the ones toking up (or thinking about it) right now.

You may not realize this, but many pot smokers change their life WITHOUT going to jail. They're just kids, they have a LONG way to go before they're expected to be productive members of society. Sending those kids to jail for marijuana is only increasing the chances that they'll become violent criminals. How about you go research this topic before you discuss it.

FYI, I've never toked up in my life.

Ok. I'll research it when you research it.

I've written a few research papers on the subject already. That's your cue to get started.

Why do they have to change their lives? I went to a conference a couple years ago and had the pleasure of smoking a bowl with a harvard medical professor.

Good for you. It fills me with hope that our medical professionals are being trained by people who care so much about their own health.

He wrote this book and was in his eighties when we did the deed.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: chambersc

So who's the victim here? There certainly IS such a thing as a "victimless crime"; the above jaywalking example is another. Unless you cherry-pick the worst examples of each and hold them as the norm, in which case such things as alcohol, fireworks, and driving should also be illegal.

I'm not saying I do or will but you just defeated your own argument.

EDIT: Your specific examples are infact illegal in some parts of the US.

You'll have to explain this one to me. In most cases, smoking pot and jaywalking are victimless. Similarly, in most cases, alcohol, fireworks, and driving are victimless. All of these examples carry a certain element of risk, some more than others, but your average person participating in each of those actions comes away unharmed. How exactly did I defeat my own argument?[/quote]

You said that they should be illegal. And they are.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: chambersc

So who's the victim here? There certainly IS such a thing as a "victimless crime"; the above jaywalking example is another. Unless you cherry-pick the worst examples of each and hold them as the norm, in which case such things as alcohol, fireworks, and driving should also be illegal.

I'm not saying I do or will but you just defeated your own argument.

EDIT: Your specific examples are infact illegal in some parts of the US.

You'll have to explain this one to me. In most cases, smoking pot and jaywalking are victimless. Similarly, in most cases, alcohol, fireworks, and driving are victimless. All of these examples carry a certain element of risk, some more than others, but your average person participating in each of those actions comes away unharmed. How exactly did I defeat my own argument?

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No, that wasn't it.

Your premise was "There certainly IS such a thing as a 'victimless crime'" and then you cite an example. You then say "Unless you cherry-pick the worst examples of each and hold them as the norm..." meaning that you have established something greater than nothing...in your argument you listed alcohol, foreworks, and driving. Therefore, you acknowledge a "victimless crime."

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Jeebus, I go to sleep one night wake up the next and in 24 hours my 1 post created 132 responses? Insane.

Hey I was bored. I didn't call the cops, and it's not like I felt that I should anyways. My friends and Iwere just bored out of our minds and we wondered what would happen. Like osmeone said... I'm not being harmed so I should leave them alone, but to be honest, isn't this degrading our ocmmunity to have pot and all sorts of drugs infiltrate our neighborhoods? I'm doing the community a service by getting these kids off the streets via punishment though.

I don't know how you guys would respond to it, but I really do frown upon neighborhoods like Oakland and Berkeley where kids are uneducated and get into trouble. The situation I described in the OP happened 3 summers ago when I was back at home in Cupertino, CA, a quiet rich well educated neighborhood with insane housing prices. Crime is low there and personally I like it that way. Sure I may be one of those rich bastards looking down upon lower income places like the East Bay, but I believe rich neighborhoods are good targets for less fortunate neighborhoods to strive for in terms of crime level, and education level. So while in Oakland or Berkeley, I may accept the fact that there is rampant drug usage and tons of drinking and druggies, and I won't do a thing to save those poor souls, when it comes to my own home neighborhood, I would like to keep it safe and a good place to live in, and that calls for the elimination of drugs.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: pineapples10
I came home this afternoon after picking up my copy of gta and I smelled something funny from my neighbors house. I went over there and the door was unlocked so I went right in. Sure enough there was my neighbor and two of his friends smoking to their hearts content. I told them they had two options, one- they could put the joints out or two- I would put the joints out for them. My neighbor had run ins with me before so he knew I meant business so he threw his joint down and told me to leave. I said you made a wise choice but I'm still calling the cops and then I turned to leave. My neighbor then got up off the couch got behind me and said a few cuss words and told me to mind my business. Well that did it. I turned around, took off my shades, looked him straight in the eye and said "lets get high". I then front kicked him a good 8 feet in the air. Then his other friend came at me with the bong, I grabbed his arm, snapped it and then hit him in the stomach with the bong. His other friend ran into the kitchen so I went after him. He was in the corner crying so I said "this is your brain" and then I grabbed a frying pan and said "this is your brain on drugs" and then I hit him in the head as hard as I could with the frying pan. After that I called the cops and they came over and arrested my neighbor and his friends. As I was leaving the sarge shouted out to me thanks. I turned around, took off my shades, looked him straight in the eye and said " well you know sarge, perhaps if we build a freaking dunkin doughnuts on this street it would give you guys a excuse to ride up here once or twice a week and keep the crime down. I then threw my shades on the ground to let him know I meant business. I feel pretty good about what I did for my neighborhood today.

hahhahahahaa you can pretend to be anything you want on the internet!!
I see you have decided to be a tough guy instead of the douche bag that you are in real life...rofl...lolol

 

[Alex]

Originally posted by: pineapples10
Without smelling you I can tell that you and your friend are probably douchebags

bwahhahahahha