So my 25 year old friend is dating a 16 year old

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CVSiN

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Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: tranceport
If he's banging her...that should land him with a sex offenders mark and a little time in jail.

people like you have turned your nation into the international joke it is now

internation joke huh? ya the most powerful nation in the world is a joke.......guess who's currency you guys use to buy your oil? Yep- ours.......We trade you our paper for your product because you need our paper to buy your oil....funny huh? Sucker......

dude shut up while youre ahead...
you are clueless not only about this thread but about the world it seems too.

we already posted proof that in most states for purpose of sexual consent she is legal.

and we established that if she was of the proper age that that age gap is fairly small.

we also established that unless the parents can proove hes banging her even if in an 17 or 18 state that dating her is legal as well.

 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: NanoStuff
It's fine, I suggest you mind your own business. She's old enough to make her own choices.


up, kill someone at that age ur likely to be tried as an adult.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: aidanjm
so many prudes and snitches in this thread. very disappointing.

a child is being taken advantage of.........definately not being a prude or snitch.....

What I want to know is why we are letting children drive cars.
 

Axoliien

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I've had a friend like this, and I just couldn't find any reason to stay friends with him. It's disgusting and just plain wrong for someone as immature as a high school girl. There's just such a huge difference between HS and college, college an graduation, graduation and having a job, and I am sure there's more out there but damn that's just wrong. Just to let you know, a few years ago after we had not spoken for years I saw his name in the paper in regards to child molestation charges, etc. It's just a bad thing waiting to go worse...
 

hysperion

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
I love how everyone talks like they are so badass...

" However, once I become a father, if I EVER found some douchebag 25 year old dating my 16 year old daughter, they'd have to use dental records to identify him."

Come on, seriously. When was the last time anyone heard of a father killing a guy because he was dating his 16 y/o daughter?

Get a grip.

You don't hear about it because the father's are intelligent about it........A man who doesn't think a 25yo sexual predator should be hanging around his 16yo daughter has at least basic intelligence......
 

hysperion

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: tranceport
If he's banging her...that should land him with a sex offenders mark and a little time in jail.

people like you have turned your nation into the international joke it is now

internation joke huh? ya the most powerful nation in the world is a joke.......guess who's currency you guys use to buy your oil? Yep- ours.......We trade you our paper for your product because you need our paper to buy your oil....funny huh? Sucker......

dude shut up while youre ahead...
you are clueless not only about this thread but about the world it seems too.

we already posted proof that in most states for purpose of sexual consent she is legal.

and we established that if she was of the proper age that that age gap is fairly small.

we also established that unless the parents can proove hes banging her even if in an 17 or 18 state that dating her is legal as well.

You posted proof that in "most states" (yes slightly, I counted 30) that the age of consent is 16. 2 of those states that have 16 as the age of consent require the other party to not exceed a certain age gap. The age gap at that age is definately not small...... 25 and 16? The amount of maturing between 16 and 25 is enormous.......even 16 and 18 is big..........

And while it may be legal- that doesn't make it right........

The parents don't have much to prove- they only have to take her to be checked on....sure the 16yo may be able to deny it but most 16yo's are under their parents thumb and when strongly pressured by their parents will cave in and admit it to avoid "punishment"......either that or he'll wrong her somehow and she'll go after him for it........
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: tranceport
If he's banging her...that should land him with a sex offenders mark and a little time in jail.

people like you have turned your nation into the international joke it is now

internation joke huh? ya the most powerful nation in the world is a joke.......guess who's currency you guys use to buy your oil? Yep- ours.......We trade you our paper for your product because you need our paper to buy your oil....funny huh? Sucker......

dude shut up while youre ahead...
you are clueless not only about this thread but about the world it seems too.

we already posted proof that in most states for purpose of sexual consent she is legal.

and we established that if she was of the proper age that that age gap is fairly small.

we also established that unless the parents can proove hes banging her even if in an 17 or 18 state that dating her is legal as well.

You posted proof that in "most states" (yes slightly, I counted 30) that the age of consent is 16. 2 of those states that have 16 as the age of consent require the other party to not exceed a certain age gap. The age gap at that age is definately not small...... 25 and 16? The amount of maturing between 16 and 25 is enormous.......even 16 and 18 is big..........

And while it may be legal- that doesn't make it right........

The parents don't have much to prove- they only have to take her to be checked on....sure the 16yo may be able to deny it but most 16yo's are under their parents thumb and when strongly pressured by their parents will cave in and admit it to avoid "punishment"......either that or he'll wrong her somehow and she'll go after him for it........

Well an exam wont proove anything these days...
they have posted stats and more stats that by 16 most girls are no longer even close to virgins....

and they would have to proove it was him.

and seriously if the 2 are really in love and the parents are involved who are we or anyone else to say whats right and wrong?
 

DougK62

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I can't believe some people are implying that the guy is some sort of pedo. lol

 

hysperion

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: tranceport
If he's banging her...that should land him with a sex offenders mark and a little time in jail.

people like you have turned your nation into the international joke it is now

internation joke huh? ya the most powerful nation in the world is a joke.......guess who's currency you guys use to buy your oil? Yep- ours.......We trade you our paper for your product because you need our paper to buy your oil....funny huh? Sucker......

dude shut up while youre ahead...
you are clueless not only about this thread but about the world it seems too.

we already posted proof that in most states for purpose of sexual consent she is legal.

and we established that if she was of the proper age that that age gap is fairly small.

we also established that unless the parents can proove hes banging her even if in an 17 or 18 state that dating her is legal as well.

You posted proof that in "most states" (yes slightly, I counted 30) that the age of consent is 16. 2 of those states that have 16 as the age of consent require the other party to not exceed a certain age gap. The age gap at that age is definately not small...... 25 and 16? The amount of maturing between 16 and 25 is enormous.......even 16 and 18 is big..........

And while it may be legal- that doesn't make it right........

The parents don't have much to prove- they only have to take her to be checked on....sure the 16yo may be able to deny it but most 16yo's are under their parents thumb and when strongly pressured by their parents will cave in and admit it to avoid "punishment"......either that or he'll wrong her somehow and she'll go after him for it........

Well an exam wont proove anything these days...
they have posted stats and more stats that by 16 most girls are no longer even close to virgins....

and they would have to proove it was him.

and seriously if the 2 are really in love and the parents are involved who are we or anyone else to say whats right and wrong?

Well we agree then----if the parents are involved (which we haven't established and I doubt)----and if the 2 are really in love (which I also doubt)----I also wouldn't see anything wrong with it............At 16 she may be mature enough to handle the relationship, but if my money were on the line I would venture she is not.......

Also you point out that most 16 yo's aren't virgins.....your absolutely right.....however, I think they could find DNA evidence- it doesn't take much to realize when your daughter has been out and when would be the time to take her in.........I don't see anything wrong with 16 & 19 or even 20 at a stretch but 25 is too old........Again I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule.........try to remember that just because you may have been in a similiar relationship at that age doesn't mean that the situation is the same or even similiar........

An earlier poster mentioned he was 23 and dated a 17yo and that their relationship has worked........Congratulations on your successful marriage- it's nice to see that it worked out for you.
However, just because it worked out for you and you proved your friends wrong doesn't mean that will always be the case- don't you think that maybe they thought it was wrong because in many cases it is the older party taking advantage?
Based on your successful marriage I'm sure that wasn't the case in your situation but just because you had a similiar experience doesn't mean you have to support everyone who is doing what you did.....I would guess your experience was the exception- not the norm.......

I think the point is that what is going on may in fact be a healthy relationship. However, based on the limited knowledge we have it would not be fair to crucify it or support it. If just using facts though, it seems to me there is a chance a crime is being commited and the OP may want to learn more about this situation so he can look at who he's hanging around with as a friend......
 

IeraseU

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This is somewhat of a loaded topic, but personally I do not see a big deal. Older men have always sought relationships with younger women. It's actually completely legal as long as there is no sex involved.

One advantage I see to dating a 16 year old is they have literally no baggage and arent 'bitter' at the world because of all the past men who have hurt them in relationships. She might have that youthful 'zest for life' that can just make him happy. I wouldnt be too quick to judge.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: tranceport
If he's banging her...that should land him with a sex offenders mark and a little time in jail.

people like you have turned your nation into the international joke it is now

internation joke huh? ya the most powerful nation in the world is a joke.......guess who's currency you guys use to buy your oil? Yep- ours.......We trade you our paper for your product because you need our paper to buy your oil....funny huh? Sucker......

dude shut up while youre ahead...
you are clueless not only about this thread but about the world it seems too.

we already posted proof that in most states for purpose of sexual consent she is legal.

and we established that if she was of the proper age that that age gap is fairly small.

we also established that unless the parents can proove hes banging her even if in an 17 or 18 state that dating her is legal as well.

You posted proof that in "most states" (yes slightly, I counted 30) that the age of consent is 16. 2 of those states that have 16 as the age of consent require the other party to not exceed a certain age gap. The age gap at that age is definately not small...... 25 and 16? The amount of maturing between 16 and 25 is enormous.......even 16 and 18 is big..........

And while it may be legal- that doesn't make it right........

The parents don't have much to prove- they only have to take her to be checked on....sure the 16yo may be able to deny it but most 16yo's are under their parents thumb and when strongly pressured by their parents will cave in and admit it to avoid "punishment"......either that or he'll wrong her somehow and she'll go after him for it........

Well an exam wont proove anything these days...
they have posted stats and more stats that by 16 most girls are no longer even close to virgins....

and they would have to proove it was him.

and seriously if the 2 are really in love and the parents are involved who are we or anyone else to say whats right and wrong?

Well we agree then----if the parents are involved (which we haven't established and I doubt)----and if the 2 are really in love (which I also doubt)----I also wouldn't see anything wrong with it............At 16 she may be mature enough to handle the relationship, but if my money were on the line I would venture she is not.......

Also you point out that most 16 yo's aren't virgins.....your absolutely right.....however, I think they could find DNA evidence- it doesn't take much to realize when your daughter has been out and when would be the time to take her in.........I don't see anything wrong with 16 & 19 or even 20 at a stretch but 25 is too old........Again I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule.........try to remember that just because you may have been in a similiar relationship at that age doesn't mean that the situation is the same or even similiar........

An earlier poster mentioned he was 23 and dated a 17yo and that their relationship has worked........Congratulations on your successful marriage- it's nice to see that it worked out for you.
However, just because it worked out for you and you proved your friends wrong doesn't mean that will always be the case- don't you think that maybe they thought it was wrong because in many cases it is the older party taking advantage?
Based on your successful marriage I'm sure that wasn't the case in your situation but just because you had a similiar experience doesn't mean you have to support everyone who is doing what you did.....I would guess your experience was the exception- not the norm.......

I think the point is that what is going on may in fact be a healthy relationship. However, based on the limited knowledge we have it would not be fair to crucify it or support it. If just using facts though, it seems to me there is a chance a crime is being commited and the OP may want to learn more about this situation so he can look at who he's hanging around with as a friend......

good response and I'll buy that... my point was only that nothing these days is so black and white.. and there are grey areas... its funny to me that alot of people imeediatly said hang em.. but these are also the same people that if they were 30ish and a hot low 20s girl wanted them.. 90% woulda hit it without batting an eyelash..
 

AMDZen

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I don't see anything wrong with it personally. And I agree with the statement regarding our "prude" attitude in America. Its ashame so many people think he is a pedophile or something. Women at 16 may have lack of sense, but no more so then they do at 18, or even older. In fact, at 16 they may (very rare but still) have more sense since it seems like women have more sex and party harder the older they get, hitting their peak anywhere from 21-28
 

maziwanka

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the point is not necessarily the age gap but simply the age of the youngest party in the relationship.

my whole problem is still the maturity level of the 16 yr. old. she's got a lot of growing up to do....
 

PingSpike

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A lot of 35 year olds have a lot of growing up to do. Should it be illegal for them to have sex?

I'm just throwing some gasoline on the fire here. But I have known 16 year olds that had their sh|t together, and plenty of "adults" that were barely capable of wiping their own ass.
 

g8wayrebel

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Not good. It is totally unacceptable.
If it were my duaghter , I would show up at his place with the law or he would have an accident.
That decision would be made by his attitude when I confronted him and told him to stay the hell away from my daughter.

23 and 17 is a long way from 25 and 16
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
A lot of 35 year olds have a lot of growing up to do. Should it be illegal for them to have sex?

I'm just throwing some gasoline on the fire here. But I have known 16 year olds that had their sh|t together, and plenty of "adults" that were barely capable of wiping their own ass.

i posted this same thing long ways up the thread they dont listen... and most are hypocrits.. I guanantee 90% of them would be or will be guilty of the same age gap in the future..
 

Chryso

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: aidanjm
so many prudes and snitches in this thread. very disappointing.


?? Bro if you are 25 and you need to pick up 16 year old girls I would be doing you a FAVOR by turning you in. Seriously grow a set and meet girls closer to your own age.

Who knows what the quality of their relationship is. Perhaps they are soul mates. At 16, you are old enough to decide who you want to fvck.

Not according to the law.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: aidanjm
so many prudes and snitches in this thread. very disappointing.


?? Bro if you are 25 and you need to pick up 16 year old girls I would be doing you a FAVOR by turning you in. Seriously grow a set and meet girls closer to your own age.

Who knows what the quality of their relationship is. Perhaps they are soul mates. At 16, you are old enough to decide who you want to fvck.

Not according to the law.


Yes by law... read the post... we already posted a matrix of states that 16 os Age of consent.. in fact the majority of states is 16 now..
 

Chryso

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Originally posted by: Eli
I am curious, what do you all think of the cultures that have women hitched at 12?

Jeebus. I was 20 and my ex was 16 when we met. We were happy, and we were together for 4 years. That would've been just great if some jackass that didn't know what was going on called the cops on us. I mean.. the hell? Maybe if the 16 year old is mentally retarded or something.

Otherwise, what the hell is the problem? Again.. if it's consentual, it doesen't matter! It is none of your business. If her parents have a problem with it, let them be the ones to press charges.. You don't know whats going on, or how they feel..

People put WAY too much significance into the number we call age. As if you magically become cogent at 18. :roll:

Just because you are a pedophile doesn't mean that the rest of us are wrong.
 

Chryso

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: aidanjm
so many prudes and snitches in this thread. very disappointing.


?? Bro if you are 25 and you need to pick up 16 year old girls I would be doing you a FAVOR by turning you in. Seriously grow a set and meet girls closer to your own age.

Who knows what the quality of their relationship is. Perhaps they are soul mates. At 16, you are old enough to decide who you want to fvck.

Not according to the law.


Yes by law... read the post... we already posted a matrix of states that 16 os Age of consent.. in fact the majority of states is 16 now..

Then it shouldn't matter if he calls the police. You should encourage him to call the police so they can tell him to mind his own business.