So Lets Talk About the next Woke College to Fall.... Syracuse

[nakedfrog]

Happens all the time. Just heard on the radio the other day that trans activists want to separate from the broader LGBTQ movement because “too much” of the progress and economic growth from the movement has been concentrated to white, cisgender males vs. trans/people of color. Not sure how that’ll work out for them.

Huh, I'm a member of that community and this is the first I've heard of that. Presumably a radical activist?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Happens all the time. Just heard on the radio the other day that trans activists want to separate from the broader LGBTQ movement because “too much” of the progress and economic growth from the movement has been concentrated to white, cisgender males vs. trans/people of color. Not sure how that’ll work out for them.

Hard to maintain a unified political coalition when everyone insists on putting themselves into smaller identity boxes.

 

[fskimospy]

Huh, I'm a member of that community and this is the first I've heard of that. Presumably a radical activist?

It's a pretty common thing to amplify fringe voices to try and discredit or splinter movements. I know a number of trans people and I've never heard of this either.

People should beware of sensationalist news stories and programs that just cite random people or groups as being indicative of how these individuals really feel.

 

[brycejones]

Thread crapping as usual. how do you get away with this garbage?

Irony

 

[Vic]

I expect everything you disagree with is bullshit, hence you’re typically emotional responses.

Do you have anymore disingenuous questions to ask, or are we done.

That you deflected by blaming liberals for your (and Greenman's) admitted misuse of the word fascism was an observation of fact, not an emotional response. You did, however, address my question as to how these college students are threatening free speech and, as I already pointed out, your concerns regarding separation and division are disingenuous given your own engagement in such tactics (ie blaming liberals for your own actions).

And I believe that the entire board here is well-aware of your habit of continuing to argue long after you've been proven wrong, so we're done whenever you want to be.

 

[Vic]

It's a pretty common thing to amplify fringe voices to try and discredit or splinter movements. I know a number of trans people and I've never heard of this either.

People should beware of sensationalist news stories and programs that just cite random people or groups as being indicative of how these individuals really feel.

Yep. I recall a certain poster here before the recent rule change that did almost nothing here but argue that cherry picked fringe voices were emblematic of everything and everyone he disagreed with.

I won't pull punches on my opinion of this. That bullshit is propaganda and the people who believe it are feeble minded seekers of their own confirmation bias.

 

[Vic]

Hard to maintain a unified political coalition when everyone insists on putting themselves into smaller identity boxes.

More irony.

 

[Starbuck1975]

That you deflected by blaming liberals for your (and Greenman's) admitted misuse of the word fascism was an observation of fact, not an emotional response.

Citation needed for where I called the students fascists.

You did, however, address my question as to how these college students are threatening free speech and, as I already pointed out, your concerns regarding separation and division are disingenuous given your own engagement in such tactics (ie blaming liberals for your own actions).

What actions would those be? If you can’t handle people disagreeing with you, perhaps you shouldn’t frequent a political forum.

And I believe that the entire board here is well-aware of your habit of continuing to argue long after you've been proven wrong, so we're done whenever you want to be.

Yes, I have a bad habit of not telling people what they want to hear, which is especially triggering to some of the participants on this board.

When you prove me wrong, I’ll let you know. Hasn’t happened yet.

 

[cytg111]

When you prove me wrong, I’ll let you know. Hasn’t happened yet.

How very Trump of you.

 

[Starbuck1975]

How very Trump of you.

BuTrump lol

 

[Vic]

Citation needed for where I called the students fascists.

What actions would those be? If you can’t handle people disagreeing with you, perhaps you shouldn’t frequent a political forum.

Yes, I have a bad habit of not telling people what they want to hear, which is especially triggering to some of the participants on this board.

When you prove me wrong, I’ll let you know. Hasn’t happened yet.

So to recap, Greenman spoke of college students as "junior fascists that want control over what can be said," I questioned that statement, you defended him by accusing me of straw man, I asked "What have these college kids actually done to exert control over your speech?", you deflected by blaming liberals for the common misuse of the word fascism, you got called out on that BS, and now you're simply denying the entire exchange ever occurred with some bizarre pronouncements of self-importance.

Got it.

 

[cytg111]

BuTrump lol

BuYou.
BuThat went over your head. As expected.

 

[Starbuck1975]

So to recap, Greenman spoke of college students as "junior fascists that want control over what can be said," I questioned that statement, you defended him by accusing me of straw man, I asked "What have these college kids actually done to exert control over your speech?", you deflected by blaming liberals for the common misuse of the word fascism, you got called out on that BS, and now you're simply denying the entire exchange ever occurred with some bizarre pronouncements of self-importance.

Got it.

You forgot to mention you’re disingenuous question, not surprising given your inaccurate summary. Seems like you have a problem with honesty.

Got it.

 

[Starbuck1975]

BuYou.
BuThat went over your head. As expected.

yawn

 

[Amused]

Sigh.



OP's logical fallacy is cherry picking.

University enrollments are down across the board, at every university,. not just the political cherries you picked here.

A Worrisome Trend for Higher Education: Declining Enrollments — The James G. Martin Center for Academic Renewal

As enrollment decline continues, the anxiety of college admissions officers and presidents builds.

www.jamesgmartin.center

College Enrollment Declines Continue

College enrollment in the U.S. has decreased for the eighth consecutive year, according to new data released Thursday by the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center. The report covers 97 percent of enrollments at degree-granting postsecondary institutions that are eligible to receive...

www.insidehighered.com

College Enrollment, Spring 2019: The Downward Slide Continues

Overall college enrollment in spring, 2019 decreased by 1.7%, or about 300,000 students. This decrease is the latest in several consecutive years of declines. The for-profit sector and two-year colleges saw the largest drops, and the decline in liberal arts enrollments continues.

www.forbes.com

"University and college enrollment has fallen nearly 9 percent since 2011, according to the National Student Clearinghouse"

Now, let's look at your graphs from the cherries your ridiculous source picked?

Oh, look, a roughly 10% decrease since 2011.

Stop reading Quillette. It's a joke and look how stupid they made you look.

 

[cytg111]

You forgot to mention you’re disingenuous question, not surprising given your inaccurate summary. Seems like you have a problem with honesty.

Got it.

HahaHhahahanahaah. HahahaHhaahhaha. DEEEEEEEEFLECT much bro? You just got served logic and fact... and this crap is what you dish back.... Hahahahahahahhaahhahaha.. At least you were a man about itHAHAHAHAAHAAHHABAAHHA

 

[cytg111]

yawn

I can see that

 

[Starbuck1975]

HahaHhahahanahaah. HahahaHhaahhaha. DEEEEEEEEFLECT much bro? You just got served logic and fact... and this crap is what you dish back.... Hahahahahahahhaahhahaha.. At least you were a man about itHAHAHAHAAHAAHHABAAHHA

Logic and facts built on disingenuous questions are no more useful than people sharing fortune cookie level advice. Oh wait.

 

[Luna1968]

Irony

Irony

 

[Vic]

Logic and facts built on disingenuous questions are no more useful than people sharing fortune cookie level advice. Oh wait.

What was disingenuous about asking, what have these college kids actually done to exert control over your speech?

I guess some people just get triggered when I ask them questions they don't like the answer to.

 

[cytg111]

Logic and facts built on disingenuous questions are no more useful than people sharing fortune cookie level advice. Oh wait.

Ssssssssh. Your fight here is over. Sleep now.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Ssssssssh. Your fight here is over. Sleep now.

You’re break isn’t up yet Confucius?

 

[soulcougher73]

I'm just here to use my freedom of speech to criticize all of you for participating in a thread started by the OP. You all know how they end by now.

You are now free to criticize me with your freedom of speech, about how i criticized you. Have fun

 

[cytg111]

You’re break isn’t up yet Confucius?

Mmm namecalling, nice. We can work with that .

 

[Victorian Gray]

I expect everything you disagree with is bullshit, hence you’re typically emotional responses.

Do you have anymore disingenuous questions to ask, or are we done.

Did you just learn a new word?