So lets say you were on a plane...

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: AgentJean
Careful. You better read up on the use of deadly force laws. It varies from place to place.
If it happens in Kalifornia you'll go to jail and end up paying reporations to the hijackers family for the rest of your natural life. You can retreat by jumping out of the plane after all so your not allowed to use force. You have to retreat.

If your in Florida, you'll be patted on the back, giving a "job well done" and sent on your marry way. You are allowed to stand your ground and kill anyone that is going to commit a forcible felony.


But here's the bigger question. How are you going to kill the terrorist? You have no weapon. Beleive me, if you happend to be able to smuggle a weapon on a plane that is hijacked and are able to kill the threat and get back on land alive, someone will hang you by your cojones for possing the weapon. Your a terrorist after all for carrying a nail clipper.

I think the terrorist threat would be minimize greatly if they allowed law biding citizens conceal carry on planes. Mohammed won't know which of the 200 passagners are packing heat. Could be the Marine in seat 15C or it could be the little old lady in 34B. Heck it could be the spring break crowed in row 4. Right now Mohammed knows everyone is unarmed and can't do squat but DIE.

If you wanna be true airplane security, demand that we sub contact out to El Al to handel security. They don't have terrorist problems. Reason why? They Profile. They know the 80 year old Jewish lady isn't going to blow up the plane and therefor leave her alone. They suspect 20-35 year old Mohammed though and will probe him accordingly.

I am all for responsible gun owners carrying weapons, but on a plane? Thats the stupidest suggestion I have ever heard. I don't care how responsible you are, planes are so crowded you will most likely kill innocent people with no guarantee of killing the hijacker. And did you realize the guy who tried to blow up a plane from England a while ago was white? Not just brown people are crazy.

Originally posted by: Baked
Sideline QBs are the bravest. But when the shed hits the fan, they'll panic and freeze like everybody else on plane.

If someone knows they are going to die what makes you think they are going to freeze? I would fvck teh hijacker up, even if I got shot in the process. Which I doubt would happen considering I don't think they could sneak a gun in. Even so, it would be a handgun not a rifle. Small arms fire != death for the most part.

 

[ntdz]

Worst question ever asked

 

[intogamer]

I'd ****** the flight lady attendant

 

[Anonemous]

throw a dell battery at it

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: Anonemous
throw a dell battery at it

You are not allowed to take explosives on board a plane.

 

[wazzledoozle]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: Anonemous
throw a dell battery at it

You are not allowed to take explosives on board a plane.

 

[Zugzwang152]

Originally posted by: veggz

Originally posted by: dug777
I'd release 100 snakes.

Someone should totally make a movie out of that

YES! best post of the thread!

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: wazzledoozle

Originally posted by: AgentJean
Careful. You better read up on the use of deadly force laws. It varies from place to place.
If it happens in Kalifornia you'll go to jail and end up paying reporations to the hijackers family for the rest of your natural life. You can retreat by jumping out of the plane after all so your not allowed to use force. You have to retreat.

If your in Florida, you'll be patted on the back, giving a "job well done" and sent on your marry way. You are allowed to stand your ground and kill anyone that is going to commit a forcible felony.


But here's the bigger question. How are you going to kill the terrorist? You have no weapon. Beleive me, if you happend to be able to smuggle a weapon on a plane that is hijacked and are able to kill the threat and get back on land alive, someone will hang you by your cojones for possing the weapon. Your a terrorist after all for carrying a nail clipper.

I think the terrorist threat would be minimize greatly if they allowed law biding citizens conceal carry on planes. Mohammed won't know which of the 200 passagners are packing heat. Could be the Marine in seat 15C or it could be the little old lady in 34B. Heck it could be the spring break crowed in row 4. Right now Mohammed knows everyone is unarmed and can't do squat but DIE.

If you wanna be true airplane security, demand that we sub contact out to El Al to handel security. They don't have terrorist problems. Reason why? They Profile. They know the 80 year old Jewish lady isn't going to blow up the plane and therefor leave her alone. They suspect 20-35 year old Mohammed though and will probe him accordingly.

My weapon would be a glass, made of glass of course. I dont know if they still use glassware, but when I flew in '05 to Michigan they did. Would make an ok weapon.

You know those plastic cups are pretty damn sharp even if you break them up... No matter. I'll just whack him with my aging Dell 600m which I hate anyways. MMmmm take that heat sink off the Dothan and slam it into his face.. it'll burn a nice Intel logo into his cheek.

LOL

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: intogamer
I'd ****** the flight lady attendant

You mean the one who is bleeding to death? Are you a necrophiliac?

 

[LumbergTech]

snakes on a plane 2, this time their on our side...a scientist on the plane discovers a formula made of the stale peanuts and one of those 5 dollar mini bottles of alcohol.....terrorists beware

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: AgentJean
I think the terrorist threat would be minimize greatly if they allowed law biding citizens conceal carry on planes. Mohammed won't know which of the 200 passagners are packing heat. Could be the Marine in seat 15C or it could be the little old lady in 34B. Heck it could be the spring break crowed in row 4. Right now Mohammed knows everyone is unarmed and can't do squat but DIE.

Personally I think open carry should be allowed by all and that a basic gun use and self-defense course be required at say senior level where most of our students can get out after a half day of classes. It would never fly for the same reasons no one reacts on a hijacked plane or even uses their cell to call in a crime....fear.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: AgentJean
I think the terrorist threat would be minimize greatly if they allowed law biding citizens conceal carry on planes. Mohammed won't know which of the 200 passagners are packing heat. Could be the Marine in seat 15C or it could be the little old lady in 34B. Heck it could be the spring break crowed in row 4. Right now Mohammed knows everyone is unarmed and can't do squat but DIE.

Personally I think open carry should be allowed by all and that a basic gun use and self-defense course be required at say senior level where most of our students can get out after a half day of classes. It would never fly for the same reasons no one reacts on a hijacked plane or even uses their cell to call in a crime....fear.

It would never work because it's a stupid idea. I'm the biggest 2nd amendment fan\gun nut on this board, and even I think it's a stupid idea. Having a bunch of people with guns on a plane is just not a good idea.

They need to make the armed pilot program more accessible to pilots and fix the air marshall program, and then things will be fine.

 

[letdown427]

Originally posted by: AgentJean
If you wanna be true airplane security, demand that we sub contact out to El Al to handel security. They don't have terrorist problems. Reason why? They Profile. They know the 80 year old Jewish lady isn't going to blow up the plane and therefor leave her alone. They suspect 20-35 year old Mohammed though and will probe him accordingly.

See I was thinking this, about profiling, as someone said on the radio yesterday about how, this family with 3 kids aren't terrorists, they're british people trying to go on holiday.

If all this profiling took place, and nice old ladies could get through, then terrorists would just focus on recruiting crazed old ladies, or don some face warping latex etc. You can't just let people in because of stereotypes, you're just giving terrorists a way to get in free.

So what state laws apply when you're on a plane? Is it whatever state you're over? (so you'd have to wait until you were over florida to make your killing) or is it tied to where you took off/where you're going to land?

"Err, this is a Captain's announcement, as most of you know, we have a terrorist on board, and now that we've just flown into Floridian airspace, any vigilantes onboard are invitied to try to kill the b@stard with the sporks provided."

They should just make the seat belts automated. No-one can get up unless an "Oh Sh!t" button is pressed in the cockpit.

Loo breaks? Tough.

 

[sandorski]

If you killed 10,000 deadly snakes on a plane, would you be charged with animal cruelty?

 

[Mutilator]

Originally posted by: Printer Bandit

Originally posted by: AgentJean
Careful. You better read up on the use of deadly force laws. It varies from place to place.
If it happens in Kalifornia you'll go to jail and end up paying reporations to the hijackers family for the rest of your natural life. You can retreat by jumping out of the plane after all so your not allowed to use force. You have to retreat.

If your in Florida, you'll be patted on the back, giving a "job well done" and sent on your marry way. You are allowed to stand your ground and kill anyone that is going to commit a forcible felony.


But here's the bigger question. How are you going to kill the terrorist? You have no weapon. Beleive me, if you happend to be able to smuggle a weapon on a plane that is hijacked and are able to kill the threat and get back on land alive, someone will hang you by your cojones for possing the weapon. Your a terrorist after all for carrying a nail clipper.

I think the terrorist threat would be minimize greatly if they allowed law biding citizens conceal carry on planes. Mohammed won't know which of the 200 passagners are packing heat. Could be the Marine in seat 15C or it could be the little old lady in 34B. Heck it could be the spring break crowed in row 4. Right now Mohammed knows everyone is unarmed and can't do squat but DIE.

If you wanna be true airplane security, demand that we sub contact out to El Al to handel security. They don't have terrorist problems. Reason why? They Profile. They know the 80 year old Jewish lady isn't going to blow up the plane and therefor leave her alone. They suspect 20-35 year old Mohammed though and will probe him accordingly.

My weapon would be my fist.

My weapon would be the little old lady in 34B. :laugh:

 

[SirChadwick]

I think you'd have enough witnesses so you wouldn't have to do jailtime. Sure you would probably go to court b/c the hijacking idiots family sues you... but you'd come out on top w/out a doubt.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Baked
Sideline QBs are the bravest. But when the shed hits the fan, they'll panic and freeze like everybody else on plane.

not true at all.. look at 9/11 they overcame the attackers on the 1 plane and casued it to fail its mission...

people these days are past the point of just taking more crap from bad peeps...
a mob in force is way stronger than 1-4 hijackers...

just because you fear death and wouldnt do anythign doesnt mean others wont..

Having been a US Service member if I was on a plane I'd sure as hell do soemthing about it...
my life is still for my country and its people.. and our rights..

 

[FoBoT]

no way
especially if you killed the hijacker with snakes

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: letdown427

Originally posted by: AgentJean
If you wanna be true airplane security, demand that we sub contact out to El Al to handel security. They don't have terrorist problems. Reason why? They Profile. They know the 80 year old Jewish lady isn't going to blow up the plane and therefor leave her alone. They suspect 20-35 year old Mohammed though and will probe him accordingly.

See I was thinking this, about profiling, as someone said on the radio yesterday about how, this family with 3 kids aren't terrorists, they're british people trying to go on holiday.

If all this profiling took place, and nice old ladies could get through, then terrorists would just focus on recruiting crazed old ladies, or don some face warping latex etc. You can't just let people in because of stereotypes, you're just giving terrorists a way to get in free.

So what state laws apply when you're on a plane? Is it whatever state you're over? (so you'd have to wait until you were over florida to make your killing) or is it tied to where you took off/where you're going to land?

"Err, this is a Captain's announcement, as most of you know, we have a terrorist on board, and now that we've just flown into Floridian airspace, any vigilantes onboard are invitied to try to kill the b@stard with the sporks provided."

They should just make the seat belts automated. No-one can get up unless an "Oh Sh!t" button is pressed in the cockpit.

Loo breaks? Tough.

Did you read the post you quoted? El Al hasn't had any problems in nearly 20 years because of effective use of profiling.

 

[AgentJean]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: letdown427

Originally posted by: AgentJean
If you wanna be true airplane security, demand that we sub contact out to El Al to handel security. They don't have terrorist problems. Reason why? They Profile. They know the 80 year old Jewish lady isn't going to blow up the plane and therefor leave her alone. They suspect 20-35 year old Mohammed though and will probe him accordingly.

See I was thinking this, about profiling, as someone said on the radio yesterday about how, this family with 3 kids aren't terrorists, they're british people trying to go on holiday.

If all this profiling took place, and nice old ladies could get through, then terrorists would just focus on recruiting crazed old ladies, or don some face warping latex etc. You can't just let people in because of stereotypes, you're just giving terrorists a way to get in free.

So what state laws apply when you're on a plane? Is it whatever state you're over? (so you'd have to wait until you were over florida to make your killing) or is it tied to where you took off/where you're going to land?

"Err, this is a Captain's announcement, as most of you know, we have a terrorist on board, and now that we've just flown into Floridian airspace, any vigilantes onboard are invitied to try to kill the b@stard with the sporks provided."

They should just make the seat belts automated. No-one can get up unless an "Oh Sh!t" button is pressed in the cockpit.

Loo breaks? Tough.

Did you read the post you quoted? El Al hasn't had any problems in nearly 20 years because of effective use of profiling.

And "they" say the Israelis are stupid. At least they understand terrorism and how to fight it effectively.

Profiling works when applied correctly. Suspect every Arab/Muslium at the Airport but for god's sake leave them alone at 7-11. They are not going to blow up the slurpee machine intentionally .

 

[Kyanzes]

I would sit tight and wait till it ends. To try to neutralize an armed terrorist is probably not the brightest idea for the following reasons:

1., I could endanger others. If I don't succeed he may blows the whole plane up or executes passengers - starting with me obviously.

2., There could be accomplices among the passengers I don't know about. See point 1.

3., There could be a professional law-enforcement operative on-board and may actions could hinder his efforts

4., I'm a coder, not a hero type character.

Ofc if it would be certain that we surely die e.g. the terrorists announce that they are to fly into a building, then there would be no reason to not to try to use force. I mean what could you lose?

 

[Zolty]

Originally posted by: Kyanzes
I would sit tight and wait till it ends. To try to neutralize an armed terrorist is probably not the brightest idea for the following reasons:

1., I could endanger others. If I don't succeed he may blows the whole plane up or executes passengers - starting with me obviously.

2., There could be accomplices among the passengers I don't know about. See point 1.

3., There could be a professional law-enforcement operative on-board and may actions could hinder his efforts

4., I'm a coder, not a hero type character.

Ofc if it would be certain that we surely die e.g. the terrorists announce that they are to fly into a building, then there would be no reason to not to try to use force. I mean what could you lose?

and that is why 3/4 planes on 9/11 carried out their missions.

 

[Mellman]

kick their arse

 

[Fritzo]

Everything here depends on if there were snakes on the plane.

 

[mayonnaise]

I flew an Austrian company back in January and they served with real silverware and pretty heavy ceramic like plates. I was kind of surprised when I saw the real wood handled knife that was handed to me and thought of all the manicure scissors and nail files that got confiscated over the years. The plates were heavy enough to knock the shvt out of a person if smacked over the head... and overall the service in cattle class was great!