so i'm thinking about saddam....

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waggy

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Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: MaxFusion16
this is absurd. If it's fake then why didn't they do it earlier instead of enduring constant backlash from the public, and if it's a fake then saddam can just release another video tape of himself proving the US is lying, I don't think the government is dumb enough to do that.



as for the .... why didnt we do it earlier. you have all pointed out this is risky. when you get to a certain point risky become an option.


as for the spending, i wasnt talking time. most people are ok with actually spending time to find osama since he did destroy the towers in america. there isnt really a huge controversy about trying to find osama bin laden. i was talking about spending MONEY.


sureshot pointed out , what if saddam releases a video is a good point though. hadnt though of that until you mentioned it.


look , basically i posted this just because i figured it'd make good conversation. i am not going aroudn telling people saddam wasnt captured.


as for the people who call for the lock or are saying this is the stupidest thing ever. you are probably the people this would most likely work on . had it been done.


god you are a moron. just proof high post count does not equal intelligence.

How would people NOT believe what is said? considering most sane people understand if saddam came out with onther tape it would destroy Bush's presidential bid. Not to mention probably get him booted from office.

You know that if it was said Saddam was caught Saddam would be do anything in his power to have a video proving he is still alive.

think then post. it helps.

Now if in the next 2 days we get Bin Laddan then you have a small chance of claiming it is a setup. otherwise why post something that is easy to prove wrong?
 

matt426malm

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well if this was some massive "right-wing conspiracy" as your type puts it.

1. They would have hauled him down to Guantanamo and suggested a military tribunal not a trial by the Iraqi's
2. They did DNA test but using your logic that could be a lie too.
3. Osai and Qusia had body guards and tons of weapons they could have had a chance or at least thought they did for an escape.
4. If they got caught it would be the end of the political end of the GOP bush and everyone associated with him.
5. Sadamm could show up and after a DNA test it turns out to be him we got some explaining to do.

You make it pretty hard to argue against you because EVERYTHING could be a government conspiracy in your argument.
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: MaxFusion16
this is absurd. If it's fake then why didn't they do it earlier instead of enduring constant backlash from the public, and if it's a fake then saddam can just release another video tape of himself proving the US is lying, I don't think the government is dumb enough to do that.



as for the .... why didnt we do it earlier. you have all pointed out this is risky. when you get to a certain point risky become an option.


as for the spending, i wasnt talking time. most people are ok with actually spending time to find osama since he did destroy the towers in america. there isnt really a huge controversy about trying to find osama bin laden. i was talking about spending MONEY.


sureshot pointed out , what if saddam releases a video is a good point though. hadnt though of that until you mentioned it.


look , basically i posted this just because i figured it'd make good conversation. i am not going aroudn telling people saddam wasnt captured.


as for the people who call for the lock or are saying this is the stupidest thing ever. you are probably the people this would most likely work on . had it been done.


god you are a moron. just proof high post count does not equal inteligiance.

How would people NOT believe what is said? considering most sane people understand if saddam came out with onther tape it would destroy Bush's presidential bid. Not to mention probably get him booted from office.

You know that if it was said Saddam was caught Saddam would be do anything in his power to have a video proving he is still alive.

think then post. it helps.


hey i am not claiming this as fact or anything.


i never called any one here a moron for believing cnn either, or called anyone any names. i am just saying this could be done and i guess more for the sake of argument and my entertainment than anything. however, you have already called me a moron.
all i proposed is a what if scenario. i suppose i was curious to see how many people believed this is plausible or not, and who thinks the government would at least think of this , and their ideas.

sadly you think i am holding a gun to your head and forcing you to believe my theory and probably got all riled up and your panties in a bunch and felt you had to call me a moron. i would have to say i am probably smarter than you.

now, i came up with this idea while eating dinner in a few minutes. im sure others who are a bit more open minded who think of other possibilites spent a few minutes thinking about this too. i am sure if it was an elaborate plot they would have thought up the video part. i am going to cease tryng to "defend" the logic of the 3-4 minute idea i came up with because all i am gonna get is called a moron. .

as for my post count, i have been on anandtech forever. and well i post interesting posts i think up of sometimes because well, they are interesting.
i post a lot because i like this forum and i've been here for almost 4 years. what does that have to do with anything. if i had 25 posts, what would i be then?




 

waggy

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Originally posted by: hans007

hey i am not claiming this as fact or anything.


i never called any one here a moron for believing cnn either, or called anyone any names. i am just saying this could be done and i guess more for the sake of argument and my entertainment than anything. however, you have already called me a moron.
all i proposed is a what if scenario. i suppose i was curious to see how many people believed this is plausible or not, and who thinks the government would at least think of this , and their ideas.

sadly you think i am holding a gun to your head and forcing you to believe my theory and probably got all riled up and your panties in a bunch and felt you had to call me a moron. i would have to say i am probably smarter than you.

now, i came up with this idea while eating dinner in a few minutes. im sure others who are a bit more open minded who think of other possibilites spent a few minutes thinking about this too. i am sure if it was an elaborate plot they would have thought up the video part. i am going to cease tryng to "defend" the logic of the 3-4 minute idea i came up with because all i am gonna get is called a moron. .

as for my post count, i have been on anandtech forever. and well i post interesting posts i think up of sometimes because well, they are interesting.
i post a lot because i like this forum and i've been here for almost 4 years. what does that have to do with anything. if i had 25 posts, what would i be then?

i spent a minute considering if it could be true. then thought "what would happen to bush and the repulicans if Saddam made another tape with a paper saying he was caught?" well then if it was proven that saddam was still alive it would ruin bush, everyone with bush, his party and really hurt the US.

so then i think ok..bush is a moron (Patriot act!) but he is NOT stupid enough to pull something like this. heck nobody in his cabinet would let him do something like this. they like there jobs.

by your "logic" any proof we have is part of the conspiracy. so it shoots down any evidence against it.

again If you would have spent another 3 minutes thinking about it you would come up why this theory is moronic.

edit: ugh messed up the quote! wohooo!
 

OIKOS

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Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
I would agree with you that it is possible. However, how many imposters would have $750K in cash on them in a hole in the ground?

i am not saying i believe this, it was just an idea.



i mean if you wanted to buy into my other line of thinking, how do you know he was in a hole, and how do you know he had the money?

 

KK

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Originally posted by: hans007
ok call me a crack head if you will.

but what if the saddam videos we are seeing are fake. doesnt it seem a little too easy, that they found saddam in the town of his birthplace (which was pretty easy, why didnt they think of that before, i mean cnn said he had hid there 44 years before also), without any violence, and he's being cooperative?

i mean his sons fought to their death in a giant gun fight right?


so cnn was mentioning they had thought maybe it was an body double which got me thinking.

what if this is a US imposter. that the US government made to finally silence people who questioned the iraq war. (i will continue to be one of them, if france came over shot bush in the head... and killed everyone in DC, that is basically what we have done to iraq). they could easily make an imposter, send out videos of him being examined with a big ass beard etc. why the hell not? and all of america would believe it, spirits would go up, stocks will go up (And they will next week, i guarantee it especially with the dows recent break of 10k) , not to mention its an election year.

i can see colin powell , bush and cheaney in a room right now, laughing. because bush is going to get re-elected. i can already see it, economic recovery and capture of world terrorist, vote for me in 2k4 bush jr.

Hey dude, let me have some of that smoke. You should know by now that his two sons are not dead, that was all staged.

KK
 

Conky

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Originally posted by: hans007
ok call me a crack head if you will.

but what if the saddam videos we are seeing are fake. doesnt it seem a little too easy, that they found saddam in the town of his birthplace (which was pretty easy, why didnt they think of that before, i mean cnn said he had hid there 44 years before also), without any violence, and he's being cooperative?

i mean his sons fought to their death in a giant gun fight right?


so cnn was mentioning they had thought maybe it was an body double which got me thinking.

what if this is a US imposter. that the US government made to finally silence people who questioned the iraq war. (i will continue to be one of them, if france came over shot bush in the head... and killed everyone in DC, that is basically what we have done to iraq). they could easily make an imposter, send out videos of him being examined with a big ass beard etc. why the hell not? and all of america would believe it, spirits would go up, stocks will go up (And they will next week, i guarantee it especially with the dows recent break of 10k) , not to mention its an election year.

i can see colin powell , bush and cheaney in a room right now, laughing. because bush is going to get re-elected. i can already see it, economic recovery and capture of world terrorist, vote for me in 2k4 bush jr.


I am now dumber for having read your post.
 

oLLie

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Heh... and the anti-war people called the pro-war people stubborn sheeps who refused to see the truth and told them to keep pulling the fleece tighter over their eyes...
 

glugglug

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I think its a bum they pulled off the streets and paid to say "hi media, my name is Saddam Hussein".

We'll see if the real Saddam doesn't get on the air laughing about this within a week.

 

glugglug

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Originally posted by: nick1985
didnt they DNA test him? :confused:

If they did you wouldn't find it a bit "convenient" that they have a DNA sample to compare against?
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: glugglug
Originally posted by: nick1985
didnt they DNA test him? :confused:

If they did you wouldn't find it a bit "convenient" that they have a DNA sample to compare against?

Well, they had a couple hundred pounds of material when they got his sons... so, I think they would have at least taken a lock of hair or something. And thats not the only source that is easy to think of.