so i'm thinking about saddam....

hans007

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ok call me a crack head if you will.

but what if the saddam videos we are seeing are fake. doesnt it seem a little too easy, that they found saddam in the town of his birthplace (which was pretty easy, why didnt they think of that before, i mean cnn said he had hid there 44 years before also), without any violence, and he's being cooperative?

i mean his sons fought to their death in a giant gun fight right?


so cnn was mentioning they had thought maybe it was an body double which got me thinking.

what if this is a US imposter. that the US government made to finally silence people who questioned the iraq war. (i will continue to be one of them, if france came over shot bush in the head... and killed everyone in DC, that is basically what we have done to iraq). they could easily make an imposter, send out videos of him being examined with a big ass beard etc. why the hell not? and all of america would believe it, spirits would go up, stocks will go up (And they will next week, i guarantee it especially with the dows recent break of 10k) , not to mention its an election year.

i can see colin powell , bush and cheaney in a room right now, laughing. because bush is going to get re-elected. i can already see it, economic recovery and capture of world terrorist, vote for me in 2k4 bush jr.





 

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yllus

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And George Bush could be an alien from Uranus who is controlled by the Martian we know as Colin Powell.

At some point there has to be some level of trust, and the realization that A) you simply cannot pull off things this big, and B) nobody dares to try fool us on this large a scale.
 

RaynorWolfcastle

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I would agree with you that it is possible. However, how many imposters would have $750K in cash on them in a hole in the ground?
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
I would agree with you that it is possible. However, how many imposters would have $750K in cash on them in a hole in the ground?

i am not saying i believe this, it was just an idea.



i mean if you wanted to buy into my other line of thinking, how do you know he was in a hole, and how do you know he had the money?
 

CarlKillerMiller

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Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
I would agree with you that it is possible. However, how many imposters would have $750K in cash on them in a hole in the ground?

Well, of course the imposter wouldn't go there HIMSELF.

The best way to make a ruse is to add something like that
 

bubbadu

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I believe you. This was too easy, and George Bush it isn't beyond him to pull something off of this scale.
 

Xenon14

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Originally posted by: hans007
ok call me a crack head if you will.

but what if the saddam videos we are seeing are fake. doesnt it seem a little too easy, that they found saddam in the town of his birthplace (which was pretty easy, why didnt they think of that before, i mean cnn said he had hid there 44 years before also), without any violence, and he's being cooperative?

i mean his sons fought to their death in a giant gun fight right?


so cnn was mentioning they had thought maybe it was an imposter, etc blah blah.

what if this is a US imposter. that the US government made to finally silence people who questioned the iraq war. (i will continue to be one of them, if france came over shot bush in the head... and killed everyone in DC, that is basically what we have done to iraq). they could easily make an imposter, send out videos of him being examined with a big ass beard etc. why the hell not? and all of america would believe it, spirits would go up, stocks will go up (And they will next week, i guarantee it especially with the dows recent break of 10k) , not to mention its an election year.

i can see colin powell , bush and cheaney in a room right now, laughing. because bush is going to get re-elected. i can already see it, economic recovery and capture of world terrorist, vote for me in 2k4 bush jr.


Let's assume your "logic" makes sense. Why haven't we caught Osama Bin Laden?
 

beer

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Originally posted by: bubbadu
I believe you. This was too easy, and George Bush it isn't beyond him to pull something off of this scale.

I agree. On the other hand, something of this scale would have slip-up that, when (not if) discovered, would destroy the GOP from holding any office in the near future. Uday and Qusay were in a house with lots of bodyguards, Saddam was in the hole in the ground....
 

waggy

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sheesh.

cant you guys give it a break?

its either "why havent they found Saddam yet!? i could have by now!"

or this crap.
 

Dragnov

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How do you know you're really living?
You don't.

You just have faith.

And that folks is why some people are religious. (Not that I'm one of them.)
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: Xenon14
Originally posted by: hans007
ok call me a crack head if you will.

but what if the saddam videos we are seeing are fake. doesnt it seem a little too easy, that they found saddam in the town of his birthplace (which was pretty easy, why didnt they think of that before, i mean cnn said he had hid there 44 years before also), without any violence, and he's being cooperative?

i mean his sons fought to their death in a giant gun fight right?


so cnn was mentioning they had thought maybe it was an imposter, etc blah blah.

what if this is a US imposter. that the US government made to finally silence people who questioned the iraq war. (i will continue to be one of them, if france came over shot bush in the head... and killed everyone in DC, that is basically what we have done to iraq). they could easily make an imposter, send out videos of him being examined with a big ass beard etc. why the hell not? and all of america would believe it, spirits would go up, stocks will go up (And they will next week, i guarantee it especially with the dows recent break of 10k) , not to mention its an election year.

i can see colin powell , bush and cheaney in a room right now, laughing. because bush is going to get re-elected. i can already see it, economic recovery and capture of world terrorist, vote for me in 2k4 bush jr.


Let's assume your "logic" makes sense. Why haven't we caught Osama Bin Laden?




we havent spent as much trying to catch osama. i wouldnt know why. lets say you believe my logic. i am not saying i am a die hard wacko, and saying that is the only way it could have been im just saying its a possiblity.

we have spent who knows how much money in iraq. there is much greater incentive to say "oh yes we caught saddam" than osama. then again who knows maybe we'll catch osama next week.
 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: hans007
ok call me a crack head if you will.

but what if the saddam videos we are seeing are fake. doesnt it seem a little too easy, that they found saddam in the town of his birthplace (which was pretty easy, why didnt they think of that before, i mean cnn said he had hid there 44 years before also), without any violence, and he's being cooperative?

i mean his sons fought to their death in a giant gun fight right?


so cnn was mentioning they had thought maybe it was an body double which got me thinking.

what if this is a US imposter. that the US government made to finally silence people who questioned the iraq war. (i will continue to be one of them, if france came over shot bush in the head... and killed everyone in DC, that is basically what we have done to iraq). they could easily make an imposter, send out videos of him being examined with a big ass beard etc. why the hell not? and all of america would believe it, spirits would go up, stocks will go up (And they will next week, i guarantee it especially with the dows recent break of 10k) , not to mention its an election year.

i can see colin powell , bush and cheaney in a room right now, laughing. because bush is going to get re-elected. i can already see it, economic recovery and capture of world terrorist, vote for me in 2k4 bush jr.

Wow you must really hate Bush and would stop at nothing to show your hate for him.
 

Furyline

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It seems like this would be a really bad idea for the US as Saddam could easily make a video showing that he is alive, giving more ammunition to the idea that USA is evil liars.
 

MaxFusion16

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this is absurd. If it's fake then why didn't they do it earlier instead of enduring constant backlash from the public, and if it's a fake then saddam can just release another video tape of himself proving the US is lying, I don't think the government is dumb enough to do that.
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Congratulations, this is the stupidest thing I've read all week. Which is really saying something considering the stuff you see here.

Oh, and yes, you're a crackhead.
 

Sureshot324

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In a way it would make a lot of sense. Diehard loyalists are killing american soldiers all the time because Saddam told them to resist until the very end. And now they see Saddam himself convieniently give up without resistance....

Still, there is no way the U.S. would try this. If it got exposed, it would be too much of a distaster. What if Saddam released another video tape denying his capture. U.S. would be fvcked.
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: MaxFusion16
this is absurd. If it's fake then why didn't they do it earlier instead of enduring constant backlash from the public, and if it's a fake then saddam can just release another video tape of himself proving the US is lying, I don't think the government is dumb enough to do that.



as for the .... why didnt we do it earlier. you have all pointed out this is risky. when you get to a certain point risky become an option.


as for the spending, i wasnt talking time. most people are ok with actually spending time to find osama since he did destroy the towers in america. there isnt really a huge controversy about trying to find osama bin laden. i was talking about spending MONEY.


sureshot pointed out , what if saddam releases a video is a good point though. hadnt though of that until you mentioned it.


look , basically i posted this just because i figured it'd make good conversation. i am not going aroudn telling people saddam wasnt captured.


as for the people who call for the lock or are saying this is the stupidest thing ever. you are probably the people this would most likely work on . had it been done.