So I'm on vacation in china, right...

[StinkyPinky]

It's awesome for rich western tourists earning in a day, what an average Chinese worker earns a month. Why do you think those games are 8 dollars for? That's like a days wages for them. If they were 50 dollars no one would buy them because that's a months wages. Try not to be so selfish and think what Mr Average over there has to do to just feed his 1 kid.

My wife is Chinese too, btw. From Hainan.

 

[ScrewFace]

The last time I checked Chinese immigrants are flooding both Canada and the United States borders looking for a better life with some freedom. How many Canadians or Americans or anyone for that matter are trying to get into China?

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Engraver
You can change your region settings in Windows.

Sure, but you can't change your US IP address which contacts auth servers to register the game with the hard coded Asian region on the disc.

Some game did this recently - I forget which. Everybody was buying European or Korean versions of a game and having them shipped to the US, only to install them and get a message saying it was for the wrong region.

 

[imported_Truenofan]

midnight maximum tune 3 and 3

if im not mistaken thats Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune. a japanese manga/anime. its probably a knockoff(of course) of this game if its just "maximum tune".

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Engraver
You can change your region settings in Windows.

Sure, but you can't change your US IP address which contacts auth servers to register the game with the hard coded Asian region on the disc.

Some game did this recently - I forget which. Everybody was buying European or Korean versions of a game and having them shipped to the US, only to install them and get a message saying it was for the wrong region.

It was the Orange Box. People bought overseas, legally, cuz it was cheaper, only to find they said NOPE when installing here in the US.

 

[Noema]

Originally posted by: Engraver


You can change your region settings in Windows.

Pretty sure there's an IP check too.

 

[Dacalo]

Originally posted by: Oyeve

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Engraver
You can change your region settings in Windows.

Sure, but you can't change your US IP address which contacts auth servers to register the game with the hard coded Asian region on the disc.

Some game did this recently - I forget which. Everybody was buying European or Korean versions of a game and having them shipped to the US, only to install them and get a message saying it was for the wrong region.

It was the Orange Box. People bought overseas, legally, cuz it was cheaper, only to find they said NOPE when installing here in the US.

And I believe the version was either from Thailand or Singapore, not Europe or Korea.

 

[gamepad]

Did you find a wife yet?

 

[spamsk8r]

I've been to China. China sucks more than the U.S., I guarantee. Interesting, with a rich culture and history, but a totalitarian Communist government FTL.

 

[BladeVenom]

If it's so great, then stay there.

 

[Skott]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom
If it's so great, then stay there.

I was wondering when someone was going to say that.

 

[Flammable]

say hello to customs

 

[Build it Myself]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom
If it's so great, then stay there.

I'm planning on it, but i'm not done with my degree yet, when that's finished that it's more than likely i'll be back out here.

Oh, and flammable, customs was never a problem, again, misguided American ignorance...this is why China and the U.S seem to tense towards eachother, it's the American aggression towards China because of a feeling if inadequacy some people have over perhaps not being the #1 country in the world anymore. We're not, so I think people should get over it and start looking to mingle with other countries instead of standing out on top of the crowd. The world has become more diversified and globally reachable, there's no more i'm here you're there mentality in business; so why is it that the U.S. needs to portray themselves as superior? I came out here for an experience, and no i'm not an expert just because i stayed a few weeks, but I have done my share of reading about the culture, the government, the people, and what I found in American history books compared to the reality of what I see walking down the streets, it's nothing like we're brought up to believe...20 years ago it was like that, but this country has changed, and we don't want to accept that. It's strange that a republic still sees Communism as a threat when they've done nothing but improve the status of living for their citizens over that last 10 years significantly. I haven't seen anything like that in the U.S., i've seen consumer confidence drop, the housing market go to hell, social services get abused, the economy pack up and move overseas and the void between the upper and lower class income become wider as time progresses.

Some people need to try looking outside of what the mainstream media tells you and look at other countries as your friends, not the next target to fire a rocket at...man.

 

[Build it Myself]

Originally posted by: Truenofan

midnight maximum tune 3 and 3

if im not mistaken thats Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune. a japanese manga/anime. its probably a knockoff(of course) of this game if its just "maximum tune".

it is wangan, i just didn't put it there. i was curious though if they had a PC version of that game.

 

[lxskllr]

China's respect for it's citizens


Edit:
For spelling

 

[Build it Myself]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Engraver
You can change your region settings in Windows.

Sure, but you can't change your US IP address which contacts auth servers to register the game with the hard coded Asian region on the disc.

Some game did this recently - I forget which. Everybody was buying European or Korean versions of a game and having them shipped to the US, only to install them and get a message saying it was for the wrong region.

I thought as long as you were offline playing it/loading the game it wouldn't make a difference...I know orange box was a unique game in that respect, but I just stay offline when I play and I didn't perceive that i'd have a problem.


from a search I just did:

Amongst personal computer games, regional lockout is more difficult to enforce because both the game application and the operating system can be easily modified. Subscription-based online games often enforce a regional lock by blocking IP addresses or requiring user to enter a national ID number. Number of other games using regional lockout are rare but do exist. One of the examples of this is the Windows version of The Orange Box, which uses Steam content delivery service to enforce the regional lockout.[1]

 

[potato28]

Originally posted by: Build it Myself

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Engraver
You can change your region settings in Windows.

Sure, but you can't change your US IP address which contacts auth servers to register the game with the hard coded Asian region on the disc.

Some game did this recently - I forget which. Everybody was buying European or Korean versions of a game and having them shipped to the US, only to install them and get a message saying it was for the wrong region.

I thought as long as you were offline playing it/loading the game it wouldn't make a difference...I know orange box was a unique game in that respect, but I just stay offline when I play and I didn't perceive that i'd have a problem.


from a search I just did:

Amongst personal computer games, regional lockout is more difficult to enforce because both the game application and the operating system can be easily modified. Subscription-based online games often enforce a regional lock by blocking IP addresses or requiring user to enter a national ID number. Number of other games using regional lockout are rare but do exist. One of the examples of this is the Windows version of The Orange Box, which uses Steam content delivery service to enforce the regional lockout.[1]

Or use an Asian proxy. Sounds like your having fun. Also sounds like the one sided argument that a few of us had about Cuba in OT a few months ago, but you know what I don't really care. Make sure to buy some more games and have more fun! :thumbsup:

 

[mooncancook]

Originally posted by: JD50
Yea, and spending 2 weeks there on vacation makes you an expert.....:roll:

You should probably take all of this BS over to P&N.

There are some old chinese immigrants who spend their entire life in SF China Town and they think China Town is all there is to America, and think that all the great pics they seen and great things they heard about America were lies.

I don't know where I'm going but I think that's a display of ignorance.

Anyway, I haven't been to many countries, but if I have to pick a foreign country to live in, without a doubt I'll pick Japan. and OP you'll love Japan, unless all you care about is cheap everything.

 

[Boztech]

Originally posted by: Build it Myself
I'm suprised how negative people are towards China...actually, i'm not. The U.S. view of this country is completely manipulated. Chinese people are nicer, kinder, more polite, more respectful, harder workers, healthier, more outgoing, the list goes on and on. I'm actually depressed that my vacation ends in 2 weeks.

As for the $1000 for airplane tickets, actually yeah, I did spend that much, then when I got here my new family (my wife is Chinese, hence the vacation) gave all our money back and then some as "welcoming gifts". If China's so poor as everyone says, why is it i'm sitting over here $3000 richer with 2 casmere (spelling?) suits in the closet and a suitcase full of computer software and games Meanwhile I've hit every nice restaraunt I've been able to find and I'm having a great time.

And that 1 baby comment was stupid. It's regulated by the government to avoid people having 5 or 6 kids like in america and then leeching off the government welfare system. Try looking past propaganda and experience things for yourself.

Just to note, there's gotta be some 20 skyscrapers going up in just this area where i'm staying, not including the rest of the city or down at the beach. If this country sucks so bad, why is it that in NY where I live, i havn't seen a skyscraper go up in years? China's economy is strong, ours is weak, I actually feel sorry that people don't realize this and take a couple of ques from what they're doing out here because of that "superiority complex" americans have.

Like I said in my first post, I didn't want to hear from any people that havn't been here themselves, you just have no idea what you're talking about unfortunately.

pardon me for not picking up and moving there right this second...

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[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: mooncancook

Originally posted by: JD50
Yea, and spending 2 weeks there on vacation makes you an expert.....:roll:

You should probably take all of this BS over to P&N.

There are some old chinese immigrants who spend their entire life in SF China Town and they think China Town is all there is to America, and think that all the great pics they seen and great things they heard about America were lies.

I don't know where I'm going but I think that's a display of ignorance.

Anyway, I haven't been to many countries, but if I have to pick a foreign country to live in, without a doubt I'll pick Japan. and OP you'll love Japan, unless all you care about is cheap everything.

Japan = Great place to visit, terrible place to live....if you're an American.

Everything is miniaturized, doubled in price, and half as available compared to other western nations.

You want a BigMac? Too bad. They serve it, but it's 50% smaller and twice as expensive.


Society also is very elitist and intolerant to inferior permanent residents. Seriously, Asia ends up being sucky regardless of table position.

 

[Pepsei]

you need to visit more countries before making that judgement... try Japan, Taiwan, Korea and Spain.

 

[Build it Myself]

lol, the whole point is that you don't go to Japan to order a Bigmac, so why shouldn't you pay more for it, it's nasty. go there and enjoy Japanese food I've heard Japan is very nice, and no i don't care about cheap anything, just that I happened to stumble on the games here and i'm having a ball in that department. Japan is more pricey because i'm in college but i'll be working as a tutor for the 3 months that I'm going there so it shouldn't be too bad i don't think between that and our money we're saving.

Noobtastic, it's funny you should mention an elitist society in Japan...take a look at the U.S. I don't know where you live but I got into a private school and since my parents arn't LOADED i'm considered an outcast because I wear clothes I can afford and my wife doesn't tote Louise Vitton bags which is stupid because we've got better grades. funny huh?

 

[Injury]

Hahahahhah.

Okay, here's the problem with your argument. You are a TOURIST. You are bringing money into the country for them. Of COURSE they are going to treat you well and be kind because they aren't going to get any money out of you unless they do. It's like a Chinese restaurant on a gargantuan scale. OF COURSE they are going to take you to the nice places while you are there because who the hell visits China to go visit factories with horrible working conditions and poor villages full of people with gripes about the government. Great, some skyscrapers went up recently in the area you are in but that doesn't imply that every person in China can build a skyscraper. Okay, so no new skyscrapers have gone up in NYC in a while but maybe that's because NYC is in a position where the cost of land is so high that it's more economical to renovate one of the thousands of available spaces in a few months time rather than taking a few years to build a new building. Land is probably more affordable in China because it is plentiful. If you think the economy in NYC/ the US is struggling because people aren't building skyscrapers or selling computer games for $10 then you're a jackass.


Finally, have fun with customs. They'll balance out the prices on your games that won't work back in the 'States for you.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
you need to visit more countries before making that judgement... try Japan, Taiwan, Korea and Spain.

I was thinking the same thing - looks like someone's out of the U.S. for the first time.

On the customs comment - you haven't brought anything back yet, have you...

On the rest, you'd probably be having better luck presenting your case if you didn't start your post with 'America sucks'. Of course, it's immaturity fits with much of the rest of your short-sighted arguments for China. As someone else mentioned, how great is it going to be when you're not a tourist anymore? Every country has it's own positives and it's own negatives. When you're new somewhere, people strive to show you the best things they can - only time will reveal it's worst to you.

 

[Capt Caveman]

You definitely are young and naive. You are comparing two countries on the number of skyscrapers being built and the price of computer games. How about freedom of speech, property rights, censorship, environmental policies, animal/human rights, political/religious freedom, standard of living, etc?