So i'm going to try veg again

[jtusa]

Hmmm, I love beef.

 

[TechnoKid]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Make sure you still eat animal products, there are certain amino acids that your body needs that are only found in animals and animal products.

:thumbsup: this is true as far as i know.

 

[konakona]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Make sure you still eat animal products, there are certain amino acids that your body needs that are only found in animals and animal products.

Health 1001 i have taken last semester taught me otherwise, i guess i have been lied to? :| so what are some of those amino acids only found in animals? the textbook we used says you can combined two different type of plants (i.e. legumes+nuts or grains+nuts) to achieve the same result.

Bacon tastes good, porkchops taste good.

bacon makes me sick and nauseous. forget the health concerns, how can you handle all that grease?? to each his own :disgust:

 

[theblackbox]

well, good luck to you.

unfortunatley now that you have changed, we'll have to eat more beef as the slaughterhouses are still doing their thing. It would be a horrid thing to waste.

i believe the animals are here for us to eat, but i won't wear leather, i only wear cotton. I believe while it is okay to eat the animal, it berates it's sacrifice by wearing it's skin. I honor the sacrifice it made for me.

sounds silly, but it's about respect for life and death.

 

[KidViciou$]

Originally posted by: theblackbox
well, good luck to you.

unfortunatley now that you have changed, we'll have to eat more beef as the slaughterhouses are still doing their thing. It would be a horrid thing to waste.

i believe the animals are here for us to eat, but i won't wear leather, i only wear cotton. I believe while it is okay to eat the animal, it berates it's sacrifice by wearing it's skin. I honor the sacrifice it made for me.

sounds silly, but it's about respect for life and death.

supply and demand my friend, supply and demand



as far as amino acids, i thought i could take some amino acid supplements or what VanillaH said?

 

[Slappy00]

what amino acids are you talking about? They can be found in many different places although some have ahigher concentration than others.

If you are really hard core I have a shelf full of synthetic amino acids (reagent grade w00t) you can use., alternatively you can just read below.


"Because of the importance of consuming proteins that provide all of the necessary amino acids, dietary proteins are considered to belong to two different groups, depending on the amino acids they provide. Complete proteins, which constitute the first group, contain ample amounts of all of the essential amino acids. These proteins are found in meat, fish, poultry, cheese, eggs, and milk. Incomplete proteins, which constitute the second group, contain only some of the essential amino acids. These proteins are found in a variety of foods, including grains, legumes, and leafy green vegetables.

Although it is important to consume the full range of amino acids, both essential and nonessential, it is not necessary to get them from meat, fish, poultry, and other complete-protein foods. In fact, because of their high fat content-as well as the use of antibiotics and other chemicals in the raising of poultry and cattle-most of those foods should be eaten in moderation. Fortunately, the dietary strategy called mutual supplementation enables you to combine partial-protein foods to make complementary protein-proteins that supply adequate amounts of all the essential amino acids. For instance, although beans and brown rice are both quite rich in protein, each lacks one or more of the necessary amino acids. However, when you combine beans and brown rice with each other, or when you combine either one with any of a number of protein-rich foods, you form a complete protein that is a high-quality substitute for meat. To make a complete protein, combine beans with any one of the following:
bullet Brown rice.
bullet Seeds.
bullet Corn.
bullet Wheat
bullet Nuts.

Or combine brown rice with any one of the following:
bullet Beans.
bullet Seeds.
bullet Nuts.
bullet Wheat"

 

[TechnoKid]

Originally posted by: VanillaH

Bacon tastes good, porkchops taste good.

bacon makes me sick and nauseous. forget the health concerns, how can you handle all that grease?? to each his own :disgust:

deep fried bacon in bacon grease, with a ham sliced fried in bacon grease, and an egg fried in bacon grease, a couple pieces of cheese all on bread buttered and fried in bacon grease. best sandwhich ever.

bacon doesn't have to be greasy, depends on how [long] you cook it, and if you put it on paper after its fried to absorb extra grease. if you try and cut off the fat before frying it, it won't happen, you need the fat to fry the stuff.

 

[konakona]

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medline...ncy/article/002467.htm

Food Sources

Proteins are described as essential and nonessential proteins or amino acids. The human body requires approximately 20 amino acids for the synthesis of its proteins.

The body can make only 13 of the amino acids -- these are known as the nonessential amino acids. They are called non-essential because the body can make them and does not need to get them from the diet. There are 9 essential amino acids that are obtained only from food, and not made in the body.

If the protein in a food supplies enough of the essential amino acids, it is called a complete protein. If the protein of a food does not supply all the essential amino acids, it is called an incomplete protein.

All meat and other animal products are sources of complete proteins. These include beef, lamb, pork, poultry, fish, shellfish, eggs, milk, and milk products.

Protein in foods (such as grains, fruits, and vegetables) are either low, incomplete protein or lack one of the essential amino acids. These food sources are considered incomplete proteins.

Plant proteins can be combined to include all of the essential amino acids and form a complete protein. Examples of combined, complete plant proteins are rice and beans, milk and wheat cereal, and corn and beans.

Recommendations

A nutritionally balanced diet provides adequate protein. Vegetarians are able to get enough protein if they eat the proper combination of plant proteins.

The amount of recommended daily protein depends upon age, medical conditions, and the type of diet one is following. Two to three servings of protein-rich food will meet the daily needs of most adults.

The following are the recommended serving sizes for protein:
For recommended serving sizes of protein for children and adolescents, see age appropriate diet for children
2 to 3 ounces of cooked lean meat, poultry, and fish (a portion about the size of a deck of playing cards)
1/2 cup of cooked dry beans, lentils, or legumes
1 egg or 2 tablespoons of peanut butter, which count as 1 ounce of lean meat
Select lean meat, poultry without skin, fish, and dry beans, lentils, and legumes often. These are the protein choices that are the lowest in fat. For more information, see the food guide pyramid.

 

[mobobuff]

It's okay. I don't eat kosher meats so I'm not contributing to bovine tracheaotomy. Give me my burgers stunned and well done, please.

Also, I find that fried and lightly seasoned pepperonies are more appetizing than bacon.

 

[Slappy00]

thare are 20 major ammino acids found frequently in portiens and 5 or so rare ammino acids that arise in specific situations. Thay are found in every living thing and alhtough certian tissues contain more of a certian type of protien that might be rich in certian amino acids. You can find almost all of the major ammino acids in every living thing in varying amounts.

 

[KidViciou$]

Originally posted by: TechnoKid

Originally posted by: VanillaH

Bacon tastes good, porkchops taste good.

bacon makes me sick and nauseous. forget the health concerns, how can you handle all that grease?? to each his own :disgust:

deep fried bacon in bacon grease, with a ham sliced fried in bacon grease, and an egg fried in bacon grease, a couple pieces of cheese all on bread buttered and fried in bacon grease. best sandwhich ever.

bacon doesn't have to be greasy, depends on how [long] you cook it, and if you put it on paper after its fried to absorb extra grease. if you try and cut off the fat before frying it, it won't happen, you need the fat to fry the stuff.

HAHAHAHAHAHA, jesus christ homer!


thanks for the info slappy, also i use whey protein when i workout

 

[Slappy00]

Originally posted by: KidViciou$

Originally posted by: TechnoKid

Originally posted by: VanillaH

Bacon tastes good, porkchops taste good.

bacon makes me sick and nauseous. forget the health concerns, how can you handle all that grease?? to each his own :disgust:

deep fried bacon in bacon grease, with a ham sliced fried in bacon grease, and an egg fried in bacon grease, a couple pieces of cheese all on bread buttered and fried in bacon grease. best sandwhich ever.

bacon doesn't have to be greasy, depends on how [long] you cook it, and if you put it on paper after its fried to absorb extra grease. if you try and cut off the fat before frying it, it won't happen, you need the fat to fry the stuff.

HAHAHAHAHAHA, jesus christ homer!


thanks for the info slappy, also i use whey protein when i workout

np dont mind my spelling i didn't go into science to write TPC reports..........with cover letters

I use rice protien after working out.. sucks with water though tastes like chalk, milk works better but i can bring my self to down milk when im all sweaty.

 

[konakona]

tofu is a great source of protein, but i can tell why nobody likes it around here after seeing how it is used in many disgusting ways :disgust: asian cuisine in general is more vegeterian/vegan friendly in my observation.

 

[mobobuff]

Anybody remember flingthecow.com? High scores anybody? I think my best was 460.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Based on their content of amino acids, foods are often classified as complete, partially complete, or incomplete protein sources. In order for a protein to be complete, it must contain all of the essential amino acids. This is the reason that many nutritionists rank non-meat foods as being incomplete. The foods do contain all amino acids, but some may be in lower proportions than are required, and, therefore, should be combined with another food containing higher amounts of these amino acids.

I guess I should say that they don't contain enough complete forms of all amino acids.

 

[KidViciou$]

YGPM slappy, btw, didn't you get the memo? i don't think so since it's TPS reports, i'll go ahead and make sure you get another copy

vanilla, i am indian and don't find indian vegetables too fondly

unfortunately, maybe i need to just change the way i think about them

 

[konakona]

I guess I should say that they don't contain enough complete forms of all amino acids.

thats the problem linked to typical unhealthy diet habit. too much meat and sh!tload of junk food leaves no room and appetite for other sources of essential nutrients. you would be surprised how much more you can eat just by cutting down on excessive meat and junk food consumption.

 

[BannedTroll]

In memory of your abscence I will eat two steaks tonight.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: VanillaH

I guess I should say that they don't contain enough complete forms of all amino acids.

thats the problem linked to typical unhealthy diet habit. too much meat and sh!tload of junk food leaves no room and appetite for other sources of essential nutrients. you would be surprised how much more you can eat just by cutting down on excessive meat and junk food consumption.

I'm not saying don't cut down, I don't eat a hell of a lot of it, but you need a diet from all ends of the spectrum.

 

[konakona]

I'm not saying don't cut down, I don't eat a hell of a lot of it, but you need a diet from all ends of the spectrum.

i am not a strict vegeterian, but prefer eating more veggies for their taste, cheaper price, ease of cooking and healthier merits. while i dont think there is anything wrong with moderate meat intake, you dont have to include meat in your diet to make it nutritiously complete. if professional atheletes can perform well without eating meat, i dont see why we couldnt do the same. we could eat more fish tho, some polyunsaturated fat is good to have.

 

[TechnoKid]

Originally posted by: BannedTroll
In memory of your abscence I will eat two steaks tonight.

make 'em ribeyes.:thumbsup:

 

[Mr. Lennon]

I love my burgers, but seeing that almost brought tears to my eyes. Just imagine the utter pain they went through. I know cows are one of the stupidest animals on earth, but god they still feel pain. The least they could do is lethally inject them so that they wouldnt die a painful death.

 

[SchrodingersDog]

Think of the plants, won't somebody please think of the plants?

 

[TechnoKid]

Originally posted by: SchrodingersDog
Think of the plants, won't somebody please think of the plants?

I heard that there was a scientific study done by a univeristy that should plants would make a certain sound/frequency when they were cut from there roots.

 

[SchrodingersDog]

True, they communicate, feel, but of course since they don't get their tracheas skyhooked they get no love.
They're all just meat, meat for the beast, and you all crave their flesh.