So if you try to kill a cop in the name of Islam....it is not influenced by Islam

[Vic]

You're making the same arguments in this thread that roundly mocked lunatics do in others. I know you can't see that, that you never came into this thread intending to change your view on anything, so carry on. But this is what happens when somebody digs their heels in on the wrong side of an issue. They post like you are in this thread.

Could you try being a little less vague? And maybe use a little less appeal to popularity?

Have you (and the OP) ever considered that the reason why the media and government officials are occasionally hesitant to discuss the religious, ethnic, or racial characteristics of certain criminals is NOT because of "political correctness," but because they're terrified of lynch mobs and pogroms?

 

[Blanky]

Could you try being a little less vague? And maybe use a little less appeal to popularity?

Have you (and the OP) ever considered that the reason why the media and government officials are occasionally hesitant to discuss the religious, ethnic, or racial characteristics of certain criminals is NOT because of "political correctness," but because they're terrified of lynch mobs and pogroms?

I said the same thing 9 minutes earlier:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37952738&postcount=15

They are trying to control the thoughts of their peasants, by withholding key information about an issue. The truth will set you free. Unless the truth is that a certain group of people are disproportionately represented in certain criminal events and, moreover, those people aren't even citizens of the country. In that case, the truth won't set you free, it's better to just hide the truth because, back to the original criticism, it's politically correct to do so.

 

[Vic]

I said the same thing 9 minutes earlier:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37952738&postcount=15

They are trying to control the thoughts of their peasants, by withholding key information about an issue. The truth will set you free. Unless the truth is that a certain group of people are disproportionately represented in certain criminal events and, moreover, those people aren't even citizens of the country. In that case, the truth won't set you free, it's better to just hide the truth because, back to the original criticism, it's politically correct to do so.

Lynch mobs and pogroms don't set anyone free, but instead undermine the rule of law.
I use such strong language because your disproportionate representation is really just bullshit. But tell you what, I'll go out in my upper middle class suburban neighborhood and let my black neighbor on one side (who's a lawyer for the telecommunications industry) and my Muslim neighbor on the other side (who's a doctor at a local hospital) know that they're responsible for all the crimes committed within the black and Muslim communities, respectively, because the anonymous masses on the Internet said that they're more likely to be involved in crimes just because they're black and Muslim. Hopefully, they will understand that I had to tell them this so that I could avoid being politically correct.

 

[Moonbeam]

...or political agenda.

I think you are right and this is how I see the agenda. Picture a horse, the head and legs of which are liberal, galloping off to some greener pasture beyond distant hills. The head knows where it's going and what its aiming for, but the horses asshole, bouncing about and expelling gas, only knows how to lift the tail and shit. This going and shitting are the liberal and conservative agendas. Luckily, it's shit that makes for greener grass.

 

[ivwshane]

Yeah, because a Muslim who pledged to ISIS shooting a cop, because the cop upholds laws contrary to Islam, with a stolen cop gun, is not a Muslim according to the mayor who is now calling for more gun control. That is what you consider logical.

This from the same city where amtrak trains were attacked by black males and they denied it. This is the same attitude that pervades other Democrat held big cities. It is all the white devils fault. Don't blame the cultures, blame white people and guns for their failure at just handing out free shit.

And the guy was mentally ill just like other white Christians before him who's religion was ignored. You probably aren't even aware of that fact but that's because you are an idiot who is spoon fed what to think.

 

[OutHouse]

...or political agenda. Look at FOX Noise in regard to the Charleston church shooting. The scumbag actually said he went there looking to kill black people. Of course to the mental giants at FOX, this clearly means the real victim here was poor victimized christianity, that religion was the target. Nevermind what the shooter says! Nevermind that Confederate flag he's holding up folks! Sounds a bit like the OP.

Black Lives Matters has been vilified for months on Fox, usually in conjunction with their 'war on cops.' Yet the BLM movement isn't responsible for a single officer death, but you would think otherwise given the volume of 'reporting' they've devoted to it. Compare that with their take and coverage on the PP shooter, who actually did kill a policeman (and a veteran).

So fucking weak.

Strange you must watch a lot of fox news to make such a statement. When was the last anti blm story broacasted?

 

[ivwshane]

Strange you must watch a lot of fox news to make such a statement. When was the last anti blm story broacasted?

In guessing it was some time before 11/5/2015 because that's when shep Smith condemned the activity.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/11/05/foxs-shep-smith-denounces-factually-wrong-repor/206657

 

[kage69]

I think you are right and this is how I see the agenda. Picture a horse, the head and legs of which are liberal, galloping off to some greener pasture beyond distant hills. The head knows where it's going and what its aiming for, but the horses asshole, bouncing about and expelling gas, only knows how to lift the tail and shit. This going and shitting are the liberal and conservative agendas. Luckily, it's shit that makes for greener grass.

Fair enough, as long as it's actually green grass we get at the end, rather than a dead patch others think can be remedied with astroturf.

 

[JSt0rm]

What liberals keep saying is that we have no problems with moderates. The problem is radicals of every religion. Its just that radical islam has a bigger problem then radical anything else at this period of history.

Intelligent people know the way to fight radicalization isnt to push all the moderate islamic people into the same category as the radicals. That creates more radicals. At any rate its a complicated issue. We should probably build a wall.

 

[Vic]

What liberals keep saying is that we have no problems with moderates. The problem is radicals of every religion. Its just that radical islam has a bigger problem then radical anything else at this period of history.

Intelligent people know the way to fight radicalization isnt to push all the moderate islamic people into the same category as the radicals. That creates more radicals. At any rate its a complicated issue. We should probably build a wall.

Honestly, I'm just more concerned about the fact that my neighbor down the street who rents the only unkempt house in the neighborhood, is unemployed and deals drugs, lets his pit bulls run loose, and screams his unmuffled Harley up and down the street in the middle of the night, thinks he's a better, more upstanding, more patriotic, and more law-abiding citizen of this country than my black and Muslim neighbors just because he's white, "Christian," and has a Trump sign in his front yard.

 

[LegendKiller]

I blame the individuals who actually committed the crimes, and insist that they be held accountable.
I do not blame their race, ethnicity, religion, or any other tenuous affiliation because I would never want to blamed for a crime that I didn't commit. Which, ironically, is exactly what you're complaining about with your "white devils" comment. That you're being blamed for things you didn't do, while you go around blaming other people for things they didn't do.
BTW, all of the major cities in the US, except Indianapolis, are governed by Democrat majorities. All of them.

So you are for no gun control then, right?

 

[ivwshane]

So you are for no gun control then, right?

Do you have ADD? You are all over the place scrambling to make some sort of relevant post.

 

[nickqt]

Do you have ADD? You are all over the place scrambling to make some sort of relevant post.

Authoritarians compartmentalize their beliefs because most of the time, particular beliefs are contradicted by observable reality. Other times, those beliefs are even contradicted by other beliefs.

Trying to have a rational discussion with an authoritarian is similar to having a rational discussion with a crumbling brick wall.

 

[feralkid]

Seriously?

Jihadists are killing people and announcing their motivation for the world to see, and you don't understand why people are angry that politicians won't name them or their motivations appropriately? You don't understand that a lot of people are fed up with the "religion of peace" line when it's plain to see that islam socially, economically, and technologically retards or outright ruins every country where it becomes dominant? Many of the most conflict ravaged populations are muslim, and they bring it upon themselves with the backwards cultures that islam is wont to spawn and perpetuate.

Islam has no advantages and no redeeming qualities over Western civilization. We only endanger our societies by associating with muslim populations. The muslim world has nothing we need, and we owe these people nothing.

Capisce?

You're saying that we should just kill all Muslims?

 

[kage69]

Strange you must watch a lot of fox news to make such a statement. When was the last anti blm story broacasted?

It helps to be fluent with topics you talk about, spares one from posting stupid things. For example, maybe posting about an ancient battle you know little about, and then proclaiming it serves as a valuable tactical example in the age of gunpowder. I knew from your minor reference it was Alesia you were referring to, so why don't you spend a little more time digesting that link you're so proud of and get back to me on it's modern day application with the cow patty posse. I think if you do a little more reading you'll realize just how bad of a comparison it is, and that your teacher was using it as an example of leadership and the kind of discipline it can inspire. Actual tactics beyond siege warfare and unconventional weapons like caltrops? Not so much. Sounds like a great way to get killed.


Yes, I have a problem with bullshit and the bullshit artists that supply it.

 

[Vic]

So you are for no gun control then, right?

I interpret the 2nd amendment as an individual right, and have said so on this forum many times in the past.
Most recently I stated that I am not in favor of background checks but don't see them as unconstitutional either.

 

[JSt0rm]

i interpret it as a well regulated militia like the yeehadist in oregon.

 

[nickqt]

You're saying that we should just kill all Muslims?

Kill them? Nah.

Have them register in a federal database? Why not?

Make them easily recognizable out in public? Makes sense to me. Perhaps have them wear a fashionable crescent moon and star armband.

Prevent them from entering the country, even if they're already citizens, because, like, they could be sekrit terrorists? Doesn't sound that bad to me.

#Trump2016

 

[Vic]

i interpret it as a well regulated militia like the yeehadist in oregon.

Washington's actions during the Whiskey Rebellion lead me to the conclusion that the Founding Fathers did not share the same opinions as the Bundys with regards to the federal government's powers to collect taxes and own land.

 

[LegendKiller]

Do you have ADD? You are all over the place scrambling to make some sort of relevant post.

No, it is an attempt to understand consistency or lack thereof.

That you can't understand that is not surprising.

 

[ivwshane]

No, it is an attempt to understand consistency or lack thereof.

That you can't understand that is not surprising.

By making straw man arguments? You are right, I don't understand you at all but then again I have problems relating to crazy idiots

 

[ivwshane]

Authoritarians compartmentalize their beliefs because most of the time, particular beliefs are contradicted by observable reality. Other times, those beliefs are even contradicted by other beliefs.

Trying to have a rational discussion with an authoritarian is similar to having a rational discussion with a crumbling brick wall.

Well he certainly seems to be falling apart like one.

 

[LegendKiller]

By making straw man arguments? You are right, I don't understand you at all but then again I have problems relating to crazy idiots

Has got nothing to do with strawmen, it is pointing out relative inconsistencies. Sorry you lack the mental agility to do that.

 

[realibrad]

Lynch mobs and pogroms don't set anyone free, but instead undermine the rule of law.
I use such strong language because your disproportionate representation is really just bullshit. But tell you what, I'll go out in my upper middle class suburban neighborhood and let my black neighbor on one side (who's a lawyer for the telecommunications industry) and my Muslim neighbor on the other side (who's a doctor at a local hospital) know that they're responsible for all the crimes committed within the black and Muslim communities, respectively, because the anonymous masses on the Internet said that they're more likely to be involved in crimes just because they're black and Muslim. Hopefully, they will understand that I had to tell them this so that I could avoid being politically correct.

Yes. Americans are so stupid and weak that admitting Muslims represent a disproportionate number of terrorists will cause them for form mobs that kill all the Muslims. Its horrible to label all Muslims for the actions of a few. Its the US citizens who we should label for the actions of the few.

 

[Vic]

Yes. Americans are so stupid and weak that admitting Muslims represent a disproportionate number of terrorists will cause them for form mobs that kill all the Muslims. Its horrible to label all Muslims for the actions of a few. Its the US citizens who we should label for the actions of the few.

That made literally no sense whatsoever.