So if you don't have a college degree

[Red Dawn]

You don't need a College Degree to make it but having one never hurt anybody. Hey why you are young you might as well pursue one, what have you got to lose?

 

[Tommunist]

I've got a friend who does blasting (blowing sh!t up) who makes pretty decent money as far as i know. I think with more experience he will probably be making 60-70k/year. Not too bad AND he gets to blow stuff up!!!

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: dartworth

Originally posted by: jadinolf
Let's see. Lower class jobs like:

Carpenter, plumber, electrician, sheet metal worker, steel worker, welder and other low (tee hee) paying jobs.

Lower class...

Thses lower class jobs pay pretty well...


I should know

the only problem with some of these jobs is that in the long run your body pays a toll for all that hard labor. otherwise i would have considered some of them as i do enjoy building things and the instant gratification involved.

 

[Brazen]

According to the Census Bureau, over an adult's working life, high school graduates earn an average of $1.2 million; associate's degree holders earn about $1.6 million; and bachelor's degree holders earn about $2.1 million (Day and Newburger, 2002).

I have a college degree, but my grandpa only had a high school diploma and when he retired he was making $200,000/yr. He was a super-hard worker, but he worked 8-5/m-f and NEVER brought his work home and was a great family man. Now, THAT is real success.

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: Brazen
According to the Census Bureau, over an adult's working life, high school graduates earn an average of $1.2 million; associate's degree holders earn about $1.6 million; and bachelor's degree holders earn about $2.1 million (Day and Newburger, 2002).

I have a college degree, but my grandpa only had a high school diploma and when he retired he was making $200,000/yr. He was a super-hard worker, but he worked 8-5/m-f and NEVER brought his work home and was a great family man. Now, THAT is real success.

So over the course of a 40-year work life, that's only $22,500 more per year for the BS holder than for the high school diploma holder.

 

[geek4life]

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: jadinolf

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: jadinolf
Let's see. Lower class jobs like:

Carpenter, plumber, electrician, sheet metal worker, steel worker, welder and other low (tee hee) paying jobs.

The sad reality is that those jobs will likely earn more for the talented worker than your white-collar job.

Keep enjoying your perceived notions of class and you'll find yourself at the bottom.

My point was that these occupations pay a great deal. I forgot law enforcement and fire fighter which are also high paying in most areas.

I think you need a four year degree nowadays to become a police officer in NYC. I don't know about the rest of the country, but it should be a requirement everywhere. Idiots with guns do not make me feel safe.

Huh? Having a college degree means you are not an idiot? I've seen more idiots in college that I wouldn't trust them with a water gun let alone a real gun. I think maturity, psychological evaluation and background check are more important than a college degree in LE.

 

[Lasthitlarry]

I have a year left to get a degree in Business Information Systems, currently holding a super easy client services job payin $12/hour, later on could be making 40k+.

I can't say what my future is, but I just want to get a degree. I believe it will look better than just a high school graduation.

I don't spend much, I don't want to make much, I just want to have a steady job that doesn't overlap into my off hours.

My advice would be to get a job when you get a car, and continue working until you graduate from high school. Look where you are, figure out where you wanna be, and then seriously consider going to college.

This is all imho of course.

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

i am a janitor and can't even afford a computer and thus can't post in this thread

 

[newParadigm]

you go to college?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: newParadigm

Finally got tired of people questioning the old spelling? Or trying to hide from comments about iPods?

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You don't need a College Degree to make it but having one never hurt anybody. Hey why you are young you might as well pursue one, what have you got to lose?

:beer:

College gave me one thing - no need for self wondering. My degree gave me the opportunity to try the corporate world. I quickly realized it wasn't for me and left but at least it cured my curiousity and doubt.

I now own my own business so no one cares about my degree. All they care about is the quality of my work and my ability to deliver.

Degree or not, it's about who you know. Also, work smarter not harder. End result is the same.

 

[Lasthitlarry]

I'm interested in everyone's "own businesses".

I want to know how you guys can make money doin this?

Like, what kind of business?

And do you have to worry about a lot of paperwork?

 

[arcenite]

Going to Rutgers now for Computer Science. Spending a lot of money (or will be). Is it worth it even if I DON'T get that high paying job? Hell yes.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: Brazen
According to the Census Bureau, over an adult's working life, high school graduates earn an average of $1.2 million; associate's degree holders earn about $1.6 million; and bachelor's degree holders earn about $2.1 million (Day and Newburger, 2002).

I have a college degree, but my grandpa only had a high school diploma and when he retired he was making $200,000/yr. He was a super-hard worker, but he worked 8-5/m-f and NEVER brought his work home and was a great family man. Now, THAT is real success.

So over the course of a 40-year work life, that's only $22,500 more per year for the BS holder than for the high school diploma holder.

I know some people who wish they made that difference.

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: Brazen
According to the Census Bureau, over an adult's working life, high school graduates earn an average of $1.2 million; associate's degree holders earn about $1.6 million; and bachelor's degree holders earn about $2.1 million (Day and Newburger, 2002).

I have a college degree, but my grandpa only had a high school diploma and when he retired he was making $200,000/yr. He was a super-hard worker, but he worked 8-5/m-f and NEVER brought his work home and was a great family man. Now, THAT is real success.

So over the course of a 40-year work life, that's only $22,500 more per year for the BS holder than for the high school diploma holder.

I know some people who wish they made that difference.

I'm not saying that's a small difference, just nothing that'll make you rich. $40k for life vs. $62k, for example.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: newParadigm

Finally got tired of people questioning the old spelling? Or trying to hide from comments about iPods?

It was the spelling, its obvious im the same dude. Our business is back on its feet, although we now sell a LOT more than iPods, eTailing items ranging from men and women's fragrances, to cell phone accesories. When we can get our hands on iPods we buy up and sell, but thats hard, we've made one succesful order (of iPods) since we got boned last time, the guy tried to hightail us on the second order again, but we didn't take the bait again.

That whole experience taught me a lot about the dishonesty of the world.


BTW, sry for thread crapping.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: Rogue
Hahaha! I laugh at the morons who ran in here blinded by their college ambitions and think that you can't be successful without a degree. You morons will soon find out the hard way that a degree doesn't count for much more than a lot of debt and a slim margin of competitive gain in the hiring process. Even then, a degree is only good for when you want or have to work for someone else. Don't be so naiive to think that a degree will grant you benefits and a competitive edge beyond other people in the market or you'll find yourself highly disappointed and wishing you didn't waste your time and money getting one.

Having said that, I am fairly successful without a degree, though I'm working on finishing mine. I will make over $60k this year without it. I turned down the FBI late last year with no degree in hand. I am regularly mistaken by my peers to have a degree and am constantly called on for my knowledge in a wide variety of areas. You know why? I read anything and everything. So far college has been a joke for me because I read so much and so many books, trade publications, magazines, etc. that there are very few topics I'm not already educated in.

That still doesn't mean that college isn't worth it

 

[PrinceofWands]

My father worked for Bonneville for 30+ years raising our familiy into comfortable middle class. My nephew makes about 150,000 a month. My brother is an executive vp for a bank chain. None have degrees, though my father was within a few credits and my brother about halfway.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
My father worked for Bonneville for 30+ years raising our familiy into comfortable middle class. My nephew makes about 150,000 a month. My brother is an executive vp for a bank chain. None have degrees, though my father was within a few credits and my brother about halfway.

Did they get opportunities while in college?

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
My father worked for Bonneville for 30+ years raising our familiy into comfortable middle class. My nephew makes about 150,000 a month. My brother is an executive vp for a bank chain. None have degrees, though my father was within a few credits and my brother about halfway.

Did they get opportunities while in college?

Not sure I understand your question.

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
My father worked for Bonneville for 30+ years raising our familiy into comfortable middle class. My nephew makes about 150,000 a month. My brother is an executive vp for a bank chain. None have degrees, though my father was within a few credits and my brother about halfway.

Did they get opportunities while in college?

Not sure I understand your question.

I think he means did they go to college, but get great opportunities and then quit.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
My father worked for Bonneville for 30+ years raising our familiy into comfortable middle class. My nephew makes about 150,000 a month. My brother is an executive vp for a bank chain. None have degrees, though my father was within a few credits and my brother about halfway.

Did they get opportunities while in college?

Not sure I understand your question.

I think he means did they go to college, but get great opportunities and then quit.

Ahhhh, no.

My brother partied himself out of school due to my mothers increasingly debilitating cancer. My father just got tired of it and stopped. He was already working for Boeing at the time. You should understand that my father is 75 though, so his generation had a bit of a different employment horizon than we do today.

 

[daclayman]

Originally posted by: Brazen
According to the Census Bureau, over an adult's working life, high school graduates earn an average of $1.2 million; associate's degree holders earn about $1.6 million; and bachelor's degree holders earn about $2.1 million (Day and Newburger, 2002).

I have a college degree, but my grandpa only had a high school diploma and when he retired he was making $200,000/yr. He was a super-hard worker, but he worked 8-5/m-f and NEVER brought his work home and was a great family man. Now, THAT is real success.

I was just thinking about this yesterday. What would happen if one were to invest the money that would've gone towards college tuition and instead took up a trade (carpenter, electrician, etc.). I know some of yous got outta college and were/are staring at 5-6 figure college debts that are paid off monthly for years, maybe decades to come. I think that by being a 'lower class' worker, one could actually retire earlier because of the earlier investing, even though, through that period of work, one actually made less money. Example:

At 22yrs old:

Fresh outta college, just got a job: monthly payments of $200 to college debt.
Working in trade for 4 years, now making $: monthly payments of $200 to retirement fund.

It's proven that the earlier in life that you start investing, the earlier you'll be able to retire or the larger the nest egg when retiring. I'm not gonna do any numbers for all y'alls; just puting something out there to think about.

 

[thesurge]

Somebody's got to do it.

 

[AdamSnow]

College drop out - IT Coordinator (Canada) for largest natural gas company in North America...

Wonderful age of 22...