So I got my first ticket today...what can I do about it?

[Mill]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Mill


I was clocked doing 47mph in a 25mph zone last night. The cop gave me a seatbelt ticket instead and said that it will save me on insurance

I don't even get the seat belt ticket thing. After I got pulled over, it took 5 minutes for the cop to finally walk over to t car and by that time I could have easily taken off my seat belt without thinking about the ticket for that. I was about to atke it off and get my license and everything ready when I decided to keep it on and attempted to get my things ready wih it on. There are no lights so he wouldn't even be able to see whether a seat belt was ever on or not. Luckily I had mine on and only hessitated somewhat before taking it off. Of course had the cop seen me with it off, he would have probably given me a ticket for that too because the cop is always right.

Actually in this case the officer was right, because you admitted to being above the speed limit(30) before you came to the new sign. Regardless of what you think happened, your own admission proves your guilt. Pay the ticket and be done with it. You were speeding.[/quote]



Actually, you missed the point of my post. The officer claimed I was speeding in the middle of town at 53mph. In the middle of town, I never could have reached that speed even if I had tried in my car considering the 2 times I had to stop within a 6 block distance. I may have gone over the speed limit, which everyone does(but thats not my point). My point is that I never went 23mph over and especially not where the cop claimed.

The ironic thing is if you're in chicago area, tune your channel to fox 32 as the're doing an investigation on some small towns and their police officers running a ticket scam. It's going to come on in a couple of minutes and hopefully I'll learn something that will help my case. The only reason I'm posting again is because of this news investigation. If it happens to be the town that I was pulled over in (highly doubt) that would definitely be hilarious.[/quote]

It doesn't matter what speed he put you down as going. You were speeding(your own admission). I have a bit more faith in his judgement than yours, but you already admitted your guilt.[/quote]



Again, how does it not matter when the ticket costs and the point impact on my record is affected by the speed I was supposedly going. The fact that the officer said I was going that speed in the middle of town doesn't seem unusual huh?[/quote]

Did you not say you were going 33 in a 30? You were speeding.[/quote]


And yet he claimed he clocked me at 53 in the middle of town? And again are your reading things correctly, had the ticket reflected what I was actually doing it's be fine, but the fact that it's WRONG what he claimed...which puts me in a worse off situation than I should be.

Why does that matter, the cop was right in his assertion that I was going 53 in the middle of town. The fact is relevant because I was explaining why I started speeding up when headin out of town. He told me he didn't pull me over for that but because he clocked me at 53 in the middle of town.

If you don't have your facts straight, you really should just shutup. Can't wait to see what a crappy cop you'll become.[/quote]

I already see the 55mph sign (though I'm not there yet) but at that point I'm still only at about 45 and speeding up when the car behind me pulls on their sirens.

So while you were in the 30 zone you were doing 45(and speeding up). So you are saying that at 45(and you were speeding up) that you couldn't have been doing 53? That's still only a 8 mph difference from what he clocked you at. Secondly, in Illinois the law states that you should have to appear in court for going more than 20 over and have your fine set by the judge. Luckily he cut you a break and you are not being required to appear and possibly face a stiffer fine. If you would only been doing 20 over your fine would have been 75 dollars. You are paying 20 dollars more than if you went less than 20 over. Now, you yourself stated you had NOT reached the sign that raised the limit, and that you were doing 45 and increasing your speed. Automobiles have inaccurate speedometers most of the time, and if you were speeding up it is VERY VERY possible that you were doing more than 20 over. You only would have had to increase 6mph to be getting the higher fine and court appearance. I think that it is very likely that if you were speeding up(and already doing 45) that you made it over 50 before you were pulled over. I think you are lucky that you didn't have to appear in court.

Regardless you saying he told you the middle of town does not impeach his testimony, because your own testimony is very good proof that you were exceeding the speed limit and very close to the 20 over. Where he clocked you does not matter in as so much that you did violate the law. Now the amount you violated the law at is something only the officer and you know, but your own statement makes it seem very possible that you did violate as he said. If you want to fight it then appear during the court date and tell the judge exactly what you told us. He will find you guilty because you will have to admit to speeding.[/quote]


I sped up to 45mph when I saw the sign. He didn't pull me over for that OFFENSE. What about that don't you understand? Possibly because it's not very fair to do so...though he would be the RIGHT. There are grey areas when refering to drastic speed limit changes. And when he put on his lights, I was going 45 MAX so he would of had to clock me earlier than that before turning on his lights to pull me over. Once I saw his lights, I immediately pulled over.

Now stop bringing it back to your stupid point when it's NOT valid because he didn' pull me over for that. I attempted to explain that to him and he said he WASN"T pulling me over for speeding up after I was out of town but when I was in the middle of town? What about that don't you understand?[/quote]

There are no gray areas if he wants to enforce the law like it is written. You were breaking the law, and you have to deal with the consequences. Next time don't speed, but if you want to speed(like 98% of all people do) then don't bitch when you get a ticket. I've gotten tickets before too my friend...

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Why do some states, cities and counties NOT allow speed trapping? Basically because it's NOT fair. Sorry mill, but you're seriosuly brainwashed. Aren't these so called laws intended to protect people rather than be cash making machine for small rural towns that don't have any source of income otherwise?

And a fair judge would probably dismiss a case where a cop pulls someone over for going 56 in a 55mph zone. While it's against the law, I'm sure anyone with common sense would understand how absurd it is. But mill, you go and enforce every single law you see. Hey, in a suburb near chicago (evanston) it's illegal to skip. Man, imagine the cash making possibilities that can be by setting up a skip trap near a local elementary school.
I'm sure the cop would be commended for doing his job. Riiiight.

 

[emmpee]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood
Why do some states, cities and counties NOT allow speed trapping? Basically because it's NOT fair. Sorry mill, but you're seriosuly brainwashed. Aren't these so called laws intended to protect people rather than be cash making machine for small rural towns that don't have any source of income otherwise? And a fair judge would probably dismiss a case where a cop pulls someone over for going 56 in a 55mph zone. While it's against the law, I'm sure anyone with common sense would understand how absurd it is. But mill, you go and enforce every single law you see. Hey, in a suburb near chicago (evanston) it's illegal to skip. Man, imagine the cash making possibilities that can be by setting up a skip trap near a local elementary school. I'm sure the cop would be commended for doing his job. Riiiight.

I'm sorry man, but none of the info you just brought up does ANYTHING to refute ANY point that was presented.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Originally posted by: emmpee

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood
Why do some states, cities and counties NOT allow speed trapping? Basically because it's NOT fair. Sorry mill, but you're seriosuly brainwashed. Aren't these so called laws intended to protect people rather than be cash making machine for small rural towns that don't have any source of income otherwise? And a fair judge would probably dismiss a case where a cop pulls someone over for going 56 in a 55mph zone. While it's against the law, I'm sure anyone with common sense would understand how absurd it is. But mill, you go and enforce every single law you see. Hey, in a suburb near chicago (evanston) it's illegal to skip. Man, imagine the cash making possibilities that can be by setting up a skip trap near a local elementary school. I'm sure the cop would be commended for doing his job. Riiiight.

I'm sorry man, but none of the info you just brought up does ANYTHING to refute ANY point that was presented.

Actually, none of your points pertained to my situation as I was pulled over for my alleged speed inside of town, yet you keep saying "blah blah blah...outside...blah blah". Outside of that you don't exactly have any points. I'm merely pointing out areas where laws aren't enforced because there is a grey area.



Hey, Mill, just out of curiosity, can you tell me where in the law it says cops can run any red light they want, and park in handicapped spots? This doesn't really have anything to do with what we're talking about but I want to know who gives them these rights?

 

[emmpee]

you've convinced me, you're obviously right. things i've learned:

* 15mph over the speed limit is definitely a grey area, and shouldn't be enforced.
* the fact that you were speeding 15mph over the limit when you were pulled over is completely irrelevant.
* speeding should never be enforced anywhere near a speed limit sign, because that would be unfair.
* your ticket should be thrown out in court because it is completely unfair.
* cops aren't always right, so then they must be always wrong.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Again, you must really be illiterate or soemthing because the cop didn't pull me over for whatever I was doing OUTSIDE of town. He distinctly said the middle of the town as I was explaining why I was going my current speed when he pulled me over. Yet, you still don't understand that.

The fact that a judge could possibly side with me for going 45 when I was 50 feet away from the 55mph sign is reasonable which might be a reason why he claimed the middle of the town.


What possible reason would he have for saying the middle of town if not to make his case stronger? Maybe he knew that the case could possibly ruled in my favor if he really did pull me over for going that speed outside of town near the new speed limit. According to a helpful AT, that town is a know speed trap. Maybe this was the cop's attempt at avoiding being called a speed trap by "placing me inside of town". In any case, if he did that cop's not very honest now is he?

But what do you care. You're too slow to comprehend anyways.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood
Again, you must really be illiterate or soemthing because the cop didn't pull me over for whatever I was doing OUTSIDE of town. He distinctly said the middle of the town as I was explaining why I was going my current speed when he pulled me over. Yet, you still don't understand that.

The fact that a judge could possibly side with me for going 45 when I was 50 feet away from the 55mph sign is reasonable which might be a reason why he claimed the middle of the town.


What possible reason would he have for saying the middle of town if not to make his case stronger? Maybe he knew that the case could possibly ruled in my favor if he really did pull me over for going that speed outside of town near the new speed limit. According to a helpful AT, that town is a know speed trap. Maybe this was the cop's attempt at avoiding being called a speed trap by "placing me inside of town". In any case, if he did that cop's not very honest now is he?

But what do you care. You're too slow to comprehend anyways.

If the judge will side with you then go to court. Otherwise everything you say is baseless conjecture that shows you don't have a basic understanding of the law.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Really, have you explained to me how cops have the authority to stor lights whenever they please and can park in handicapped spots while everyone else would get ticketed for doing so? I bet you're a strong supporter of speed traps too. You'll make a great cop...in some rural backwards country somewhere.

While, I haven't read anything about speed traps being illegal, you judge for yourself whether you consider them "right." The law says you're wrong and can be fined for skipping in Evanston, I guess you just go right along with it because it's the law huh?


http://www.speedtrap.org/stetfite.htm

 

[emmpee]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood Again, you must really be illiterate or soemthing because the cop didn't pull me over for whatever I was doing OUTSIDE of town. He distinctly said the middle of the town as I was explaining why I was going my current speed when he pulled me over. Yet, you still don't understand that. The fact that a judge could possibly side with me for going 45 when I was 50 feet away from the 55mph sign is reasonable which might be a reason why he claimed the middle of the town. What possible reason would he have for saying the middle of town if not to make his case stronger? Maybe he knew that the case could possibly ruled in my favor if he really did pull me over for going that speed outside of town near the new speed limit. According to a helpful AT, that town is a know speed trap. Maybe this was the cop's attempt at avoiding being called a speed trap by "placing me inside of town". In any case, if he did that cop's not very honest now is he? But what do you care. You're too slow to comprehend anyways.

If the judge will side with you then go to court. Otherwise everything you say is baseless conjecture that shows you don't have a basic understanding of the law.

basically my point as well, and i couldn't have said it any better.

 

[emmpee]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood
Really, have you explained to me how cops have the authority to stor lights whenever they please and can park in handicapped spots while everyone else would get ticketed for doing so? I bet you're a strong supporter of speed traps too. You'll make a great cop...in some rural backwards country somewhere. While, I haven't read anything about speed traps being illegal, you judge for yourself whether you consider them "right." The law says you're wrong and can be fined for skipping in Evanston, I guess you just go right along with it because it's the law huh? http://www.speedtrap.org/stetfite.htm

IRRELEVANT

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

The reason these small towns target out of towners is because of the mere fact that it's nearly impossible to contest. The judges are all rigged into the system already and the local folks accept and support it as it generates revenue while they're not the folks targeted.

Of course, that's fair....right? The law is the law huh? Never mind the intention of the law is for public safety and not a revenue generating cash freaking local rural cow. I'm sure those folks have HUGE problems with bending the law.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

You've not said one relevant thing upon entering this thread? What's your point emms or whatever your name is?

Do you have any opinons on the matter or are you just mill's little cheerleader?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: emmpee

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood
Why do some states, cities and counties NOT allow speed trapping? Basically because it's NOT fair. Sorry mill, but you're seriosuly brainwashed. Aren't these so called laws intended to protect people rather than be cash making machine for small rural towns that don't have any source of income otherwise? And a fair judge would probably dismiss a case where a cop pulls someone over for going 56 in a 55mph zone. While it's against the law, I'm sure anyone with common sense would understand how absurd it is. But mill, you go and enforce every single law you see. Hey, in a suburb near chicago (evanston) it's illegal to skip. Man, imagine the cash making possibilities that can be by setting up a skip trap near a local elementary school. I'm sure the cop would be commended for doing his job. Riiiight.

I'm sorry man, but none of the info you just brought up does ANYTHING to refute ANY point that was presented.

Actually, none of your points pertained to my situation as I was pulled over for my alleged speed inside of town, yet you keep saying "blah blah blah...outside...blah blah". Outside of that you don't exactly have any points. I'm merely pointing out areas where laws aren't enforced because there is a grey area.



Hey, Mill, just out of curiosity, can you tell me where in the law it says cops can run any red light they want, and park in handicapped spots? This doesn't really have anything to do with what we're talking about but I want to know who gives them these rights?

What's the point of addressing your multitude of straw man arguments. If you're a college student you should really take a basic composition course or reread your textbook regarding rhetoric. If you have some photographs or video of cops parking in handicap spots or running red lights then feel free to post them. Otherwise you are creating a side argument to move the debate away from the fact that you broke law. You are just trying to come up with any example you can that says the police are fallible, and the thing is they are fallible. They are human just like you and I and they do make errors. However, you've already stated that you were speeding, so I don't think the police officer made an error. Feel free to take it to a judge if you feel so wronged, or even pay 500 dollars and hire a lawyer.

You know, you could always try to taking driving school or the like, but you are too busy protesting the fact that you got caught braking the law. You're whining and throwing out straw men so that you don't have to take responsibility for what you did. You have plenty of recourse in this matter. You can show up in court and talk to the DA about dropping it down to a non-moving violation, have the points reduced, have the fine reduced, or take driving school. You can also hire a lawyer to talk to the DA or to take your case before the judge. You can also represent yourself(which is not generally recommended) and plead your case before the judge and give him your side. You are making it out like the big bad Cop picked on you for no reason. You were speeding through his town and he was compelled to give you a ticket.

You are not presenting any new arguments for the rest of us anyway. Every speeding thread on AT has the exact same arguments.

1. I wasn't speeding.
2. I wasn't speeding as much as the Cop said.
3. Cops are corrupt.
4. The law has gray areas.(Which it does, but the police officer decides to use his discretion and not you).
5. They gave me a ticket just for revenue.
6. They gave me a ticket because I am _______ (insert a race, gender, or age group)
7. They were bored and had nothing else to do.
8. The signs were confusing.
9. My car can't go that fast.
10. The radar gone was inaccurate.

Believe me, all those excuses are used on daily basis in court and in threads on AT. The resultant outcome of it all, is that people refuse to take responsibility for their actions. You have not been proven guilty yet. Right now you are innocent, but if you mail in the ticket you profess your guilt. Take some responsibility and go to court if you feel you were wronged. Otherwise all you are doing is bitching and trying to shirk responsibility. Grow a pair and find a solution that is actually viable. All the other things you are spouting does not help your case one bit, nor does it reduce your fine or get you acquitted. You keep saying that I'm brainwashed, or that I will be a bad cop, or that I'm an idiot, or that I can't read. None of that helps your case one bit. It is just you seeking validation from others and with your self for the actions you took. Either take responsibility and face the consequences or pay the fine. The choice is yours. All the debating in the world is not going to change the few options you have.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood
You've not said one relevant thing upon entering this thread? What's your point emms or whatever your name is?

Do you have any opinons on the matter or are you just mill's little cheerleader?

He has had many relevant points and has been quite patient. I've been quite patient as well, but I'm getting a bit tired of the insults lobbed at anyone that disagrees with you. Their ad-hominem attacks and they don't help your position one bit. It seems that anyone that doesn't agree with you is an idiot, a cheerleader, or a moron. There must be about 5 billion morons out there, because I doubt you will find many sympathetic people out there that aren't just bitter people that can't face the results of their actions.

 

[mundane]

1. You were speeding
2. You were caught.
3. The only option you have is to pay the ticket.

I've tried to read through this thread, back and forth. Perhaps you are right, the cop did tag you and claim a higher speed. But from what I understand of how much your ticket costs, compared to what it could cost, you're getting off light.

Seriously, arguing with any of these people isn't going to help your situation, you'll still be stuck with the ticket even if you convince them (and I haven't seen very many people changes their minds on ANY subject on this board). You came here looking for pity - it ain't gonna happen here. You want sympathy, buy a puppy.

You asked for people's advice - so here it is: Pay the ticket, led this thread die, and learn from the lesson.

 

[BurnItDwn]

well ... I would just pay the ticket and go to the stupid 4 hour "alive at 25" traffic school that they put you through. The $95 hurts, but it's not as bad as the amount that the insurance would go up.

In the future I would try to avoid roads that go thru small towns whever possible and stay on the expressways ... the state troopers seem to be very lenient in most of Illinois. (I used to drive as fast as my car would go Once or twice per week to and from Wheeling IL and Aurora IL back when I was in school. (my old car, 94 grand Am, had a governer that cut fuel to the engine at just under 110mph. My current car is a bit faster, but I usually don't drive as fast any more (perhaps I have learned to just go with the flow of traffic). I have never been ticketed on an expressway here, however I've been tickeded on several state routes (one was similar to yours where it goes from a 55zone to a 35 zone .... )

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
1. You were speeding
2. You were caught.
3. The only option you have is to pay the ticket.

I've tried to read through this thread, back and forth. Perhaps you are right, the cop did tag you and claim a higher speed. But from what I understand of how much your ticket costs, compared to what it could cost, you're getting off light.

Seriously, arguing with any of these people isn't going to help your situation, you'll still be stuck with the ticket even if you convince them (and I haven't seen very many people changes their minds on ANY subject on this board). You came here looking for pity - it ain't gonna happen here. You want sympathy, buy a puppy.

You asked for people's advice - so here it is: Pay the ticket, led this thread die, and learn from the lesson.

Obviously you didn't read enough. I already stated I was paying the ticket and won't be able to appear in court with my schedule.

I was speeding through his town...uhh riiight and you know this for a fact because you were there.

My main purpose in posting this thread was to ask for advice on how I could either contest the ticket or try to prevent this from hurting my insurance. The reponses that stated..."just pay the ticket...and you;re wrong" were uncalled for. I'm merely forced to defend my position because some people jump to conclusions about matters they really don't understand or know anything about.

To those people who suggested online courses or hiring a lawyer, those are useful posts. Those who just say "pay the ticket..you're wrong" serve no purpose. Mill is a prime example of someone who understands the whole situation and has come to the conclusion I'm wrong because a cop said so.

I bring up those other points because, even if I'm technically violating the law even by getting caught in a speed trap, it's not right nor fair. But I guess Mill's readiing comprehension skills need some work. The cops really will just hire anyone.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
well ... I would just pay the ticket and go to the stupid 4 hour "alive at 25" traffic school that they put you through. The $95 hurts, but it's not as bad as the amount that the insurance would go up.

In the future I would try to avoid roads that go thru small towns whever possible and stay on the expressways ... the state troopers seem to be very lenient in most of Illinois. (I used to drive as fast as my car would go Once or twice per week to and from Wheeling IL and Aurora IL back when I was in school. (my old car, 94 grand Am, had a governer that cut fuel to the engine at just under 110mph. My current car is a bit faster, but I usually don't drive as fast any more (perhaps I have learned to just go with the flow of traffic). I have never been ticketed on an expressway here, however I've been tickeded on several state routes (one was similar to yours where it goes from a 55zone to a 35 zone .... )

Yeah, I know about the insurance hit and everything. The only problem I expressed in going to traffic school is it's a 350 mile round trip right in the middle of school. Whenever I go through local roads again, I'll be sure to have a passenger with my digicam take a movie of my speedometer as I pass through local towns.




OK...this was an example of someone being helpful on this forum and relating similiar experiences, unlike Mill who comes into the thread and asserts I'm wrong and to just pay the ticket. You must feel real important huh Mill?

 

[emmpee]

monkeylovegood,

in life, there is value in listening to those who have differing opinions than your own, and learning from their opinions. seeing things from another point of view can provide insight. you should really rethink your hostility directed toward those offering differing opinions in your thread, especially when they haven't been hostile toward you.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
1. You were speeding
2. You were caught.
3. The only option you have is to pay the ticket.

I've tried to read through this thread, back and forth. Perhaps you are right, the cop did tag you and claim a higher speed. But from what I understand of how much your ticket costs, compared to what it could cost, you're getting off light.

Seriously, arguing with any of these people isn't going to help your situation, you'll still be stuck with the ticket even if you convince them (and I haven't seen very many people changes their minds on ANY subject on this board). You came here looking for pity - it ain't gonna happen here. You want sympathy, buy a puppy.

You asked for people's advice - so here it is: Pay the ticket, led this thread die, and learn from the lesson.

Obviously you didn't read enough. I already stated I was paying the ticket and won't be able to appear in court with my schedule.

I was speeding through his town...uhh riiight and you know this for a fact because you were there.

My main purpose in posting this thread was to ask for advice on how I could either contest the ticket or try to prevent this from hurting my insurance. The reponses that stated..."just pay the ticket...and you;re wrong" were uncalled for. I'm merely forced to defend my position because some people jump to conclusions about matters they really don't understand or know anything about.

To those people who suggested online courses or hiring a lawyer, those are useful posts. Those who just say "pay the ticket..you're wrong" serve no purpose. Mill is a prime example of someone who understands the whole situation and has come to the conclusion I'm wrong because a cop said so.

I bring up those other points because, even if I'm technically violating the law even by getting caught in a speed trap, it's not right nor fair. But I guess Mill's readiing comprehension skills need some work. The cops really will just hire anyone.

You've already admitted your were speeding. He didn't have to be there because you already admitted that you were in fact speeding. I've given you plenty of reasons how to avoid the points or insurance hit, and I've also given you plenty of information on how to contest it. I don't think it is my reading skills that need the work, but it's very silly of you to say so. You average about 9-10 spelling and grammatical mistakes per post, so you obviously can't even read what you wrote yourself. I'm not one to normally say anything about grammar or spelling(unless it is terrible), but you keep saying that I can't read. If I'm such a terrible reader then how come I made perfect on the SAT verbal(800) and the ACT reading comprehension portion(36)? Sure standardized tests mean jack all, but you keep accusing me of being unable to read. I read on average about 500 books a year(not including required reading) and spend even more time perusing news sites and doing research. I don't think I need you to lecture me on how to read, nor do you need to lecture anyone on the fairness of the law. It is a Judge's job to determine the constitutionality and fairness of the law and not yours. I'm not sure if you understand how the government works, but you better read up on it some before you do something equally as stupid again.

I've offered you solutions, but I don't agree with you that you were not breaking the law. Because of this you keep insulting me or saying I can't read, but you aren't refuting my arguments. Ad-hominem doesn't refute arguments, it just shows the weakness of your retort.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
well ... I would just pay the ticket and go to the stupid 4 hour "alive at 25" traffic school that they put you through. The $95 hurts, but it's not as bad as the amount that the insurance would go up.

In the future I would try to avoid roads that go thru small towns whever possible and stay on the expressways ... the state troopers seem to be very lenient in most of Illinois. (I used to drive as fast as my car would go Once or twice per week to and from Wheeling IL and Aurora IL back when I was in school. (my old car, 94 grand Am, had a governer that cut fuel to the engine at just under 110mph. My current car is a bit faster, but I usually don't drive as fast any more (perhaps I have learned to just go with the flow of traffic). I have never been ticketed on an expressway here, however I've been tickeded on several state routes (one was similar to yours where it goes from a 55zone to a 35 zone .... )

Yeah, I know about the insurance hit and everything. The only problem I expressed in going to traffic school is it's a 350 mile round trip right in the middle of school. Whenever I go through local roads again, I'll be sure to have a passenger with my digicam take a movie of my speedometer as I pass through local towns.




OK...this was an example of someone being helpful on this forum and relating similiar experiences, unlike Mill who comes into the thread and asserts I'm wrong and to just pay the ticket. You must feel real important huh Mill?

I've given you plenty of ideas on what you can do you keep trying to discredit me because I disagree with you. It's pretty childish.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
well ... I would just pay the ticket and go to the stupid 4 hour "alive at 25" traffic school that they put you through. The $95 hurts, but it's not as bad as the amount that the insurance would go up.

In the future I would try to avoid roads that go thru small towns whever possible and stay on the expressways ... the state troopers seem to be very lenient in most of Illinois. (I used to drive as fast as my car would go Once or twice per week to and from Wheeling IL and Aurora IL back when I was in school. (my old car, 94 grand Am, had a governer that cut fuel to the engine at just under 110mph. My current car is a bit faster, but I usually don't drive as fast any more (perhaps I have learned to just go with the flow of traffic). I have never been ticketed on an expressway here, however I've been tickeded on several state routes (one was similar to yours where it goes from a 55zone to a 35 zone .... )

Yeah, I know about the insurance hit and everything. The only problem I expressed in going to traffic school is it's a 350 mile round trip right in the middle of school. Whenever I go through local roads again, I'll be sure to have a passenger with my digicam take a movie of my speedometer as I pass through local towns.




OK...this was an example of someone being helpful on this forum and relating similiar experiences, unlike Mill who comes into the thread and asserts I'm wrong and to just pay the ticket. You must feel real important huh Mill?

I've given you plenty of ideas on what you can do you keep trying to discredit me because I disagree with you. It's pretty childish.

As I recall, your first post was pretty useless along with every post since.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
well ... I would just pay the ticket and go to the stupid 4 hour "alive at 25" traffic school that they put you through. The $95 hurts, but it's not as bad as the amount that the insurance would go up.

In the future I would try to avoid roads that go thru small towns whever possible and stay on the expressways ... the state troopers seem to be very lenient in most of Illinois. (I used to drive as fast as my car would go Once or twice per week to and from Wheeling IL and Aurora IL back when I was in school. (my old car, 94 grand Am, had a governer that cut fuel to the engine at just under 110mph. My current car is a bit faster, but I usually don't drive as fast any more (perhaps I have learned to just go with the flow of traffic). I have never been ticketed on an expressway here, however I've been tickeded on several state routes (one was similar to yours where it goes from a 55zone to a 35 zone .... )

Yeah, I know about the insurance hit and everything. The only problem I expressed in going to traffic school is it's a 350 mile round trip right in the middle of school. Whenever I go through local roads again, I'll be sure to have a passenger with my digicam take a movie of my speedometer as I pass through local towns.




OK...this was an example of someone being helpful on this forum and relating similiar experiences, unlike Mill who comes into the thread and asserts I'm wrong and to just pay the ticket. You must feel real important huh Mill?

I've given you plenty of ideas on what you can do you keep trying to discredit me because I disagree with you. It's pretty childish.

As I recall, your first post was pretty useless along with every post since.

Because I didn't agree with you. Ok, that's fine with me, but know that you were still wrong.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Umm, no. Your first post just says to pay the ticket and it doesn't matter what speed I'm clocked at and where when it does in fact matter. Please get your facts straight.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood
Umm, no. Your first post just says to pay the ticket and it doesn't matter what speed I'm clocked at and where when it does in fact matter. Please get your facts straight.

But you are still wrong and I'm right.