So I got my first ticket today...what can I do about it?

[rufruf44]

You're forgetting 1 important thing. When was the last time your spedometer been calibrated? It can be off about 10%, meaning you would go around 50mph, and the radar might also have a 5-10% fail-range, so it's not impossible for the cop to clock you at 53.
Just consider the $95 as penalty for going 15mph over. If you go to court, there're always a possibility they might hit you with the penalty for 23mph over....in most state that qualifies as reckless driving. You'll be looking at $300 or more combined fine. Get the defensive driving course like others has suggested and make sure it'll shield you from the insurance.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Kroze
Wow i guess i was touched by an angel.

I was clocked doing 47mph in a 25mph zone last night. The cop gave me a seatbelt ticket instead and said that it will save me on insurance

I don't even get the seat belt ticket thing. After I got pulled over, it took 5 minutes for the cop to finally walk over to the car and by that time I could have easily taken off my seat belt without thinking about the ticket for that. I was about to atke it off and get my license and everything ready when I decided to keep it on and attempted to get my things ready wih it on. There are no lights so he wouldn't even be able to see whether a seat belt was ever on or not. Luckily I had mine on and only hessitated somewhat before taking it off. Of course had the cop seen me with it off, he would have probably given me a ticket for that too because the cop is always right.

Actually in this case the officer was right, because you admitted to being above the speed limit(30) before you came to the new sign. Regardless of what you think happened, your own admission proves your guilt. Pay the ticket and be done with it. You were speeding.

Actually, you missed the point of my post. The officer claimed I was speeding in the middle of town at 53mph. In the middle of town, I never could have reached that speed even if I had tried in my car considering the 2 times I had to stop within a 6 block distance. I may have gone over the speed limit, which everyone does(but thats not my point). My point is that I never went 23mph over and especially not where the cop claimed.

The ironic thing is if you're in chicago area, tune your channel to fox 32 as the're doing an investigation on some small towns and their police officers running a ticket scam. It's going to come on in a couple of minutes and hopefully I'll learn something that will help my case. The only reason I'm posting again is because of this news investigation. If it happens to be the town that I was pulled over in (highly doubt) that would definitely be hilarious.

It doesn't matter what speed he put you down as going. You were speeding(your own admission). I have a bit more faith in his judgement than yours, but you already admitted your guilt.

Again, how does it not matter when the ticket costs and the point impact on my record is affected by the speed I was supposedly going. The fact that the officer said I was going that speed in the middle of town doesn't seem unusual huh?

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Originally posted by: rufruf44
You're forgetting 1 important thing. When was the last time your spedometer been calibrated? It can be off about 10%, meaning you would go around 50mph, and the radar might also have a 5-10% fail-range, so it's not impossible for the cop to clock you at 53.
Just consider the $95 as penalty for going 15mph over. If you go to court, there're always a possibility they might hit you with the penalty for 23mph over....in most state that qualifies as reckless driving. You'll be looking at $300 or more combined fine. Get the defensive driving course like others has suggested and make sure it'll shield you from the insurance.

The car I was driving at the time is only about a year old and I've never noticed my speedometer to be off and definitely not 10mph off. If someone can't tell the difference between 30mph and 40 mph definitely hasn't spent much time driving.


The fact that the cop said I was speeding at 53 when there was no way of that still bothers me. Why would the cop say that?...oh right it doesn't matter he's a cop and he can say whatever he wants.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Kroze
Wow i guess i was touched by an angel.

I was clocked doing 47mph in a 25mph zone last night. The cop gave me a seatbelt ticket instead and said that it will save me on insurance

I don't even get the seat belt ticket thing. After I got pulled over, it took 5 minutes for the cop to finally walk over to the car and by that time I could have easily taken off my seat belt without thinking about the ticket for that. I was about to atke it off and get my license and everything ready when I decided to keep it on and attempted to get my things ready wih it on. There are no lights so he wouldn't even be able to see whether a seat belt was ever on or not. Luckily I had mine on and only hessitated somewhat before taking it off. Of course had the cop seen me with it off, he would have probably given me a ticket for that too because the cop is always right.

Actually in this case the officer was right, because you admitted to being above the speed limit(30) before you came to the new sign. Regardless of what you think happened, your own admission proves your guilt. Pay the ticket and be done with it. You were speeding.

Actually, you missed the point of my post. The officer claimed I was speeding in the middle of town at 53mph. In the middle of town, I never could have reached that speed even if I had tried in my car considering the 2 times I had to stop within a 6 block distance. I may have gone over the speed limit, which everyone does(but thats not my point). My point is that I never went 23mph over and especially not where the cop claimed.

The ironic thing is if you're in chicago area, tune your channel to fox 32 as the're doing an investigation on some small towns and their police officers running a ticket scam. It's going to come on in a couple of minutes and hopefully I'll learn something that will help my case. The only reason I'm posting again is because of this news investigation. If it happens to be the town that I was pulled over in (highly doubt) that would definitely be hilarious.

It doesn't matter what speed he put you down as going. You were speeding(your own admission). I have a bit more faith in his judgement than yours, but you already admitted your guilt.

You really need to learn how to read. If DOES matter what speed he put me down at and WHERE he said he clocked me. I bet all authority figures are right..all the time. It must be nice living under that rock.

 

[rufruf44]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: rufruf44
You're forgetting 1 important thing. When was the last time your spedometer been calibrated? It can be off about 10%, meaning you would go around 50mph, and the radar might also have a 5-10% fail-range, so it's not impossible for the cop to clock you at 53.
Just consider the $95 as penalty for going 15mph over. If you go to court, there're always a possibility they might hit you with the penalty for 23mph over....in most state that qualifies as reckless driving. You'll be looking at $300 or more combined fine. Get the defensive driving course like others has suggested and make sure it'll shield you from the insurance.

The car I was driving at the time is only about a year old and I've never noticed my speedometer to be off and definitely not 10mph off. If someone can't tell the difference between 30mph and 40 mph definitely hasn't spent much time driving.


The fact that the cop said I was speeding at 53 when there was no way of that still bothers me. Why would the cop say that?...oh right it doesn't matter he's a cop and he can say whatever he wants.

In the eye of a judge a cop statement will always bear more weight than a traffic offender. You should have asked him to show you the radar's number when he clocked you. Thats about the only way you can counter him, otherwise it'll just go down to your word against him, and you'll lose 99% of the time.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

I'm not trying to fight this in court as I'm sure the whole system is setup as a money making venture anyways. Also, that was my first traffic violation in my 3 years of driving so I wasn't exactly prepared to ask all the right questions or think totally straight.

I've sat in a car where an off duty cop slammed into our car trying to make a right turn in a middle lane before. The funniest line was.."I'm a cop, I'm a professional driver so I'm not at fault." Good thing the insurance companies got it right.

My sister's also been pulled over once and let go because they had no case. She was going the speed limit when a cop was about to merge onto the highway so she braked. The cop didn't attempt to make it in so she kept going. Then the cop decided to tail and tailgate her because obviously she had to have been speeding to brake when the cop was about to merge right? The cop never put on their lights just followed extremely close so she figured he wanted her out of the way. She signaled and changed lanes and the cop followed. She just continued going under tha speed limit and looking back constantly at the cop that followed her. The cop continued following for another mile or so when she got off the highway. Suprise, suprise the cop followed her off. After 2 blocks on local, the cops put on their lights and pull her over into a parking lot where another cop car pulls up. They take her info and never say what her violation is. They give it back and tell her to go to her way. Wow, obviously my sister had to of done some major traffic violation or something to get that threatment right?

edit:spelling and to point out the fact that cops are not always right. Mill, where's the support for that cop that shot the unarmed victim? Cops are never wrong. I guess there just has to be video evidence to prove that huh?

 

[emmpee]

monkeylovegood,

1) the fact that "the cops aren't always right" is not a valid defense for anything.
2) nobody here has said that the cops are always right.

neither of the stories you just posted mean anything.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

There are examples of when cops AREN'T always right. I didn' even say them earlier but when most everyone on this forum keeps saying.."the word of a officer against your's...obviously you're wrong". If they don't even know me or the officer, how can they purely jump to that conclusion?

edit: How was I using that fact as a defense? I was defending my point when everyone here assumes I'm wrong just because it's my word against a cops.

 

[emmpee]

we already KNOW that cops aren't always right. we don't need you to explain it to us.

also, nobody said "obviously you're wrong". most have just said that they trust his judgment more than yours, and rightly so. in the average cop vs. the average driver, i'm taking the side of the cop.

the point is that it doesn't matter that cops are always right, it matters that they are usually right. you had a speedometer, he had radar. one said 45, one said 53. either way, it's good enough.

(by the way, it doesn't matter that he said 'middle of town'. try explaining that in court - "no sir, he said i was speeding at point A, when i was actually speeding 3 blocks away from that location". it's irrelevant.)

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

The fact that it wasn't where he said it was seems ODD doesn't it? Of course you wouldn't question something like that. Just assume the cop is right.

 

[emmpee]

yes, it's odd. completely irrelevant for reasons described earlier, but still odd.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Kroze
Wow i guess i was touched by an angel.

I was clocked doing 47mph in a 25mph zone last night. The cop gave me a seatbelt ticket instead and said that it will save me on insurance

I don't even get the seat belt ticket thing. After I got pulled over, it took 5 minutes for the cop to finally walk over to the car and by that time I could have easily taken off my seat belt without thinking about the ticket for that. I was about to atke it off and get my license and everything ready when I decided to keep it on and attempted to get my things ready wih it on. There are no lights so he wouldn't even be able to see whether a seat belt was ever on or not. Luckily I had mine on and only hessitated somewhat before taking it off. Of course had the cop seen me with it off, he would have probably given me a ticket for that too because the cop is always right.

Actually in this case the officer was right, because you admitted to being above the speed limit(30) before you came to the new sign. Regardless of what you think happened, your own admission proves your guilt. Pay the ticket and be done with it. You were speeding.

Actually, you missed the point of my post. The officer claimed I was speeding in the middle of town at 53mph. In the middle of town, I never could have reached that speed even if I had tried in my car considering the 2 times I had to stop within a 6 block distance. I may have gone over the speed limit, which everyone does(but thats not my point). My point is that I never went 23mph over and especially not where the cop claimed.

The ironic thing is if you're in chicago area, tune your channel to fox 32 as the're doing an investigation on some small towns and their police officers running a ticket scam. It's going to come on in a couple of minutes and hopefully I'll learn something that will help my case. The only reason I'm posting again is because of this news investigation. If it happens to be the town that I was pulled over in (highly doubt) that would definitely be hilarious.

It doesn't matter what speed he put you down as going. You were speeding(your own admission). I have a bit more faith in his judgement than yours, but you already admitted your guilt.

Again, how does it not matter when the ticket costs and the point impact on my record is affected by the speed I was supposedly going. The fact that the officer said I was going that speed in the middle of town doesn't seem unusual huh?

Did you not say you were going 33 in a 30? You were speeding.

 

[C'DaleRider]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: bradruth
Accept it. If his radar said 53, in all likelihood you were going 53. If you're sure you were going slower, perhaps your speedometer is off.

Ok, right so the cop is always right? I'm sorry but I can tell a difference between crusing around the low 30s and 53mph. Who's to say he didn't clock me as I was exiting town when my speedometer read about 45 and rising? Like I said, there were 2 times I had to stop within town so speeding up to 53 mph with my 112 hp car wouldn't really be smart to do only to stop again a couple of blocks away.

So you want me to decide who has more credence, a law enforcement professional or a guy who complains about a speeding ticket on a tech-related message board? I'm sorry, but I'm going with the officer. Perhaps he did clock you later than you claim he said, but as long as you were still in the 30mph zone it's speeding. Deal with it.

Ok, again I don't really care if you believe me or not. If you really think that cops and people in authority are always right, then you have problems. Since President Bush is the highest ranking person in the US, then no one can question him or his actions? Of course his motives are in the best interest of everyone right?

I'm just saying there are grey areas of speeding. Does seeing the 55mph sign mean it's a 55 zone or do you have to pass the sign in order to go over 30?

I can't wait for karma to come around on some of you.

For those with helpful advice about the online traffic school idea, Thankyou.

Just to answer your question, bolded above..............there are no grey areas concerning speeding. The speed limit changes at the sign, not when you can see it. You have to pass the sign to enter the new speed zone. Just sighting it ahead does not give you carte blanche to increase your speed until you actually reach and pass the sign.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Kroze
Wow i guess i was touched by an angel.

I was clocked doing 47mph in a 25mph zone last night. The cop gave me a seatbelt ticket instead and said that it will save me on insurance

I don't even get the seat belt ticket thing. After I got pulled over, it took 5 minutes for the cop to finally walk over to the car and by that time I could have easily taken off my seat belt without thinking about the ticket for that. I was about to atke it off and get my license and everything ready when I decided to keep it on and attempted to get my things ready wih it on. There are no lights so he wouldn't even be able to see whether a seat belt was ever on or not. Luckily I had mine on and only hessitated somewhat before taking it off. Of course had the cop seen me with it off, he would have probably given me a ticket for that too because the cop is always right.

Actually in this case the officer was right, because you admitted to being above the speed limit(30) before you came to the new sign. Regardless of what you think happened, your own admission proves your guilt. Pay the ticket and be done with it. You were speeding.

Actually, you missed the point of my post. The officer claimed I was speeding in the middle of town at 53mph. In the middle of town, I never could have reached that speed even if I had tried in my car considering the 2 times I had to stop within a 6 block distance. I may have gone over the speed limit, which everyone does(but thats not my point). My point is that I never went 23mph over and especially not where the cop claimed.

The ironic thing is if you're in chicago area, tune your channel to fox 32 as the're doing an investigation on some small towns and their police officers running a ticket scam. It's going to come on in a couple of minutes and hopefully I'll learn something that will help my case. The only reason I'm posting again is because of this news investigation. If it happens to be the town that I was pulled over in (highly doubt) that would definitely be hilarious.

It doesn't matter what speed he put you down as going. You were speeding(your own admission). I have a bit more faith in his judgement than yours, but you already admitted your guilt.

Again, how does it not matter when the ticket costs and the point impact on my record is affected by the speed I was supposedly going. The fact that the officer said I was going that speed in the middle of town doesn't seem unusual huh?

Did you not say you were going 33 in a 30? You were speeding.

And yet he claimed he clocked me at 53 in the middle of town? And again are your reading things correctly, had the ticket reflected what I was actually doing it's be fine, but the fact that it's WRONG what he claimed...which puts me in a worse off situation than I should be.

Why does that matter, the cop was right in his assertion that I was going 53 in the middle of town. The fact is relevant because I was explaining why I started speeding up when headin out of town. He told me he didn't pull me over for that but because he clocked me at 53 in the middle of town.

If you don't have your facts straight, you really should just shutup. Can't wait to see what a crappy cop you'll become.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Originally posted by: C'DaleRider

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: bradruth
Accept it. If his radar said 53, in all likelihood you were going 53. If you're sure you were going slower, perhaps your speedometer is off.

Ok, right so the cop is always right? I'm sorry but I can tell a difference between crusing around the low 30s and 53mph. Who's to say he didn't clock me as I was exiting town when my speedometer read about 45 and rising? Like I said, there were 2 times I had to stop within town so speeding up to 53 mph with my 112 hp car wouldn't really be smart to do only to stop again a couple of blocks away.

So you want me to decide who has more credence, a law enforcement professional or a guy who complains about a speeding ticket on a tech-related message board? I'm sorry, but I'm going with the officer. Perhaps he did clock you later than you claim he said, but as long as you were still in the 30mph zone it's speeding. Deal with it.

Ok, again I don't really care if you believe me or not. If you really think that cops and people in authority are always right, then you have problems. Since President Bush is the highest ranking person in the US, then no one can question him or his actions? Of course his motives are in the best interest of everyone right?

I'm just saying there are grey areas of speeding. Does seeing the 55mph sign mean it's a 55 zone or do you have to pass the sign in order to go over 30?

I can't wait for karma to come around on some of you.

For those with helpful advice about the online traffic school idea, Thankyou.

Just to answer your question, bolded above..............there are no grey areas concerning speeding. The speed limit changes at the sign, not when you can see it. You have to pass the sign to enter the new speed zone. Just sighting it ahead does not give you carte blanche to increase your speed until you actually reach and pass the sign.

This is sort of off topic but is the law always correct? On my way home tonight, I was just watching the different speed limits in the suburbs. The semi-highway stretch has a speed limit of (edit: 55)65 and a min speed of 45. The on ramp is only 35mph so once the person enters the highway, couldn't a cop pull him over for going UNDER the speed minimum? It's impossible to suddenly change from 35 to 45 upon entering the highway so yeah, I guess a cop could have a field day with that huh?

In any case, the issue isn't really about how fast I was going outside of town since the pull over was for 53 in the MIDDLE of town. It is relevant where and for what reason I was pulled over.

 

[TechnoKid]

I know that it is considered a "speed trap" when officers try and ticket you right when a speed changes from a faster to slower (ie, you are going 35 in a 35 zone, then right at the 25mph sign, you are pulled over).

 

[emmpee]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood
This is sort of off topic but is the law always correct? On my way home tonight, I was just watching the different speed limits in the suburbs. The semi-highway stretch has a speed limit of 65 and a min speed of 45. The on ramp is only 35mph so once the person enters the highway, couldn't a cop pull him over for going UNDER the speed minimum? It's impossible to suddenly change from 35 to 45 upon entering the highway so yeah, I guess a cop could have a field day with that huh?

your answers

"Harris says those are used to give specific directions and recommend a lower speed to motorists, in cases such as "one of the older style loop or cloverleaf ramp designs. ... In this example the loop portion of the ramp might be posted with a curving black arrow on a yellow background to show the general shape and direction of the ramp. This sign would also be diamond-shaped. On the same sign support you could also see a rectangular, black-and-yellow speed-limit sign advising you of the recommended speed, say 35 mph. The combination of these two signs would be telling you that a maximum speed of 35 mph is recommended for that curve or loop portion of the ramp."

"If you are entering a highway you are expected to accelerate to the posted speed and merge unless otherwise posted, or to the pace of the adjacent lane traffic and merge."

There's probably better links out there with a little more thorough explanation, but that's the idea.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

The ramp itself is limited to 35mph, so you can't start your acceleration until you actually get onto the highway providing a good 40 feet or so to accelerate to the speed limit before your lanes merge and have oncoming traffic slame into the back of your car. The law is so right in this case. I find those are the only times I ever have to floor the gas.


again, my ticket problem isn't exactly related to speed trapping unless he did take my earlier speed (entering town speed or exiting town speed) as the so called "middle of town, near the church and park" as I recall.

edit: If the speed limit has no grey areas, then shouldn't it be illegal to speed up on the on ramp before entering the highway until you pass the first new speed limit sign? That article telling motorists to speed up to a safe speed to eneter the highway while still on the ramp must be given a ticket too! Riiiight

 

[emmpee]

sigh. for the 18th time, "middle" or not, it doesn't matter. want proof? call the cop and inform him that you were speeding, but at a different location. see how far you get.

and guess what, cops don't just hand out speeding tickets for fun. why would he pull this 53mph number out of thin air? this area sounds like a prime speed trap, so i really doubt that he would have to hand out bogus tickets - i'm sure he could find "real" speeders pretty quickly at any time of day.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Kroze
Wow i guess i was touched by an angel.

I was clocked doing 47mph in a 25mph zone last night. The cop gave me a seatbelt ticket instead and said that it will save me on insurance

I don't even get the seat belt ticket thing. After I got pulled over, it took 5 minutes for the cop to finally walk over to the car and by that time I could have easily taken off my seat belt without thinking about the ticket for that. I was about to atke it off and get my license and everything ready when I decided to keep it on and attempted to get my things ready wih it on. There are no lights so he wouldn't even be able to see whether a seat belt was ever on or not. Luckily I had mine on and only hessitated somewhat before taking it off. Of course had the cop seen me with it off, he would have probably given me a ticket for that too because the cop is always right.

Actually in this case the officer was right, because you admitted to being above the speed limit(30) before you came to the new sign. Regardless of what you think happened, your own admission proves your guilt. Pay the ticket and be done with it. You were speeding.

Actually, you missed the point of my post. The officer claimed I was speeding in the middle of town at 53mph. In the middle of town, I never could have reached that speed even if I had tried in my car considering the 2 times I had to stop within a 6 block distance. I may have gone over the speed limit, which everyone does(but thats not my point). My point is that I never went 23mph over and especially not where the cop claimed.

The ironic thing is if you're in chicago area, tune your channel to fox 32 as the're doing an investigation on some small towns and their police officers running a ticket scam. It's going to come on in a couple of minutes and hopefully I'll learn something that will help my case. The only reason I'm posting again is because of this news investigation. If it happens to be the town that I was pulled over in (highly doubt) that would definitely be hilarious.

It doesn't matter what speed he put you down as going. You were speeding(your own admission). I have a bit more faith in his judgement than yours, but you already admitted your guilt.

Again, how does it not matter when the ticket costs and the point impact on my record is affected by the speed I was supposedly going. The fact that the officer said I was going that speed in the middle of town doesn't seem unusual huh?

Did you not say you were going 33 in a 30? You were speeding.

And yet he claimed he clocked me at 53 in the middle of town? And again are your reading things correctly, had the ticket reflected what I was actually doing it's be fine, but the fact that it's WRONG what he claimed...which puts me in a worse off situation than I should be.

Why does that matter, the cop was right in his assertion that I was going 53 in the middle of town. The fact is relevant because I was explaining why I started speeding up when headin out of town. He told me he didn't pull me over for that but because he clocked me at 53 in the middle of town.

If you don't have your facts straight, you really should just shutup. Can't wait to see what a crappy cop you'll become.

I already see the 55mph sign (though I'm not there yet) but at that point I'm still only at about 45 and speeding up when the car behind me pulls on their sirens.

So while you were in the 30 zone you were doing 45(and speeding up). So you are saying that at 45(and you were speeding up) that you couldn't have been doing 53? That's still only a 8 mph difference from what he clocked you at. Secondly, in Illinois the law states that you should have to appear in court for going more than 20 over and have your fine set by the judge. Luckily he cut you a break and you are not being required to appear and possibly face a stiffer fine. If you would only been doing 20 over your fine would have been 75 dollars. You are paying 20 dollars more than if you went less than 20 over. Now, you yourself stated you had NOT reached the sign that raised the limit, and that you were doing 45 and increasing your speed. Automobiles have inaccurate speedometers most of the time, and if you were speeding up it is VERY VERY possible that you were doing more than 20 over. You only would have had to increase 6mph to be getting the higher fine and court appearance. I think that it is very likely that if you were speeding up(and already doing 45) that you made it over 50 before you were pulled over. I think you are lucky that you didn't have to appear in court.

Regardless you saying he told you the middle of town does not impeach his testimony, because your own testimony is very good proof that you were exceeding the speed limit and very close to the 20 over. Where he clocked you does not matter in as so much that you did violate the law. Now the amount you violated the law at is something only the officer and you know, but your own statement makes it seem very possible that you did violate as he said. If you want to fight it then appear during the court date and tell the judge exactly what you told us. He will find you guilty because you will have to admit to speeding.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Originally posted by: emmpee
sigh. for the 18th time, "middle" or not, it doesn't matter. want proof? call the cop and inform him that you were speeding, but at a different location. see how far you get.

and guess what, cops don't just hand out speeding tickets for fun. why would he pull this 53mph number out of thin air? this area sounds like a prime speed trap, so i really doubt that he would have to hand out bogus tickets - i'm sure he could find "real" speeders pretty quickly at any time of day.

Like I said, there hand out tickets for MONEY...even more incentive than fun wouldn't you say? The 53mph number could have been from another location. It is important because cops generally don't pull people over right where the speed limit changes because it's not right. His numbers could have been from there and he said the middle of town because that's MUCH more serious and no grey areas about it. Where the speed limits change abuptly (55 to 30) is huge and cops generally don't give tickets there because they understand the circumstances. It's like the whole on ramp analogy where the speed limit is still technically 35 or so but you have to speed up or you'll get slammed in the back or cause a major accident. I've enetered highways plenty of times before and the "new" speed limit is at least a couple hundred feet after the on ramp.


Possible reasons why he said I was going 53 in the middle of town is because his reason for pulling me over outside of town would have been pretty bogus. I don't know his motives? And it was pretty late at night. I didn't see any cars go by outside of the 2 for a long distance.

 

[emmpee]

also, if you really want to disprove your belief that it's impossible to enter the highway legally from the onramp you were speaking of, there's plenty of information to read here.

 

[MonkeyloveGood]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood

Originally posted by: Kroze
Wow i guess i was touched by an angel.

I was clocked doing 47mph in a 25mph zone last night. The cop gave me a seatbelt ticket instead and said that it will save me on insurance

I don't even get the seat belt ticket thing. After I got pulled over, it took 5 minutes for the cop to finally walk over to t car and by that time I could have easily taken off my seat belt without thinking about the ticket for that. I was about to atke it off and get my license and everything ready when I decided to keep it on and attempted to get my things ready wih it on. There are no lights so he wouldn't even be able to see whether a seat belt was ever on or not. Luckily I had mine on and only hessitated somewhat before taking it off. Of course had the cop seen me with it off, he would have probably given me a ticket for that too because the cop is always right.

Actually in this case the officer was right, because you admitted to being above the speed limit(30) before you came to the new sign. Regardless of what you think happened, your own admission proves your guilt. Pay the ticket and be done with it. You were speeding.

Actually, you missed the point of my post. The officer claimed I was speeding in the middle of town at 53mph. In the middle of town, I never could have reached that speed even if I had tried in my car considering the 2 times I had to stop within a 6 block distance. I may have gone over the speed limit, which everyone does(but thats not my point). My point is that I never went 23mph over and especially not where the cop claimed.

The ironic thing is if you're in chicago area, tune your channel to fox 32 as the're doing an investigation on some small towns and their police officers running a ticket scam. It's going to come on in a couple of minutes and hopefully I'll learn something that will help my case. The only reason I'm posting again is because of this news investigation. If it happens to be the town that I was pulled over in (highly doubt) that would definitely be hilarious.

It doesn't matter what speed he put you down as going. You were speeding(your own admission). I have a bit more faith in his judgement than yours, but you already admitted your guilt.

Again, how does it not matter when the ticket costs and the point impact on my record is affected by the speed I was supposedly going. The fact that the officer said I was going that speed in the middle of town doesn't seem unusual huh?

Did you not say you were going 33 in a 30? You were speeding.

And yet he claimed he clocked me at 53 in the middle of town? And again are your reading things correctly, had the ticket reflected what I was actually doing it's be fine, but the fact that it's WRONG what he claimed...which puts me in a worse off situation than I should be.

Why does that matter, the cop was right in his assertion that I was going 53 in the middle of town. The fact is relevant because I was explaining why I started speeding up when headin out of town. He told me he didn't pull me over for that but because he clocked me at 53 in the middle of town.

If you don't have your facts straight, you really should just shutup. Can't wait to see what a crappy cop you'll become.

I already see the 55mph sign (though I'm not there yet) but at that point I'm still only at about 45 and speeding up when the car behind me pulls on their sirens.

So while you were in the 30 zone you were doing 45(and speeding up). So you are saying that at 45(and you were speeding up) that you couldn't have been doing 53? That's still only a 8 mph difference from what he clocked you at. Secondly, in Illinois the law states that you should have to appear in court for going more than 20 over and have your fine set by the judge. Luckily he cut you a break and you are not being required to appear and possibly face a stiffer fine. If you would only been doing 20 over your fine would have been 75 dollars. You are paying 20 dollars more than if you went less than 20 over. Now, you yourself stated you had NOT reached the sign that raised the limit, and that you were doing 45 and increasing your speed. Automobiles have inaccurate speedometers most of the time, and if you were speeding up it is VERY VERY possible that you were doing more than 20 over. You only would have had to increase 6mph to be getting the higher fine and court appearance. I think that it is very likely that if you were speeding up(and already doing 45) that you made it over 50 before you were pulled over. I think you are lucky that you didn't have to appear in court.

Regardless you saying he told you the middle of town does not impeach his testimony, because your own testimony is very good proof that you were exceeding the speed limit and very close to the 20 over. Where he clocked you does not matter in as so much that you did violate the law. Now the amount you violated the law at is something only the officer and you know, but your own statement makes it seem very possible that you did violate as he said. If you want to fight it then appear during the court date and tell the judge exactly what you told us. He will find you guilty because you will have to admit to speeding.

I sped up to 45mph when I saw the sign. He didn't pull me over for that OFFENSE. What about that don't you understand? Possibly because it's not very fair to do so...though he would be the RIGHT. There are grey areas when refering to drastic speed limit changes. And when he put on his lights, I was going 45 MAX so he would of had to clock me earlier than that before turning on his lights to pull me over. Once I saw his lights, I immediately pulled over.

Now stop bringing it back to your stupid point when it's NOT valid because he didn' pull me over for that. I attempted to explain that to him and he said he WASN"T pulling me over for speeding up after I was out of town but when I was in the middle of town? What about that don't you understand?

 

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Originally posted by: MonkeyloveGood
Like I said, there hand out tickets for MONEY...even more incentive than fun wouldn't you say? The 53mph number could have been from another location. It is important because cops generally don't pull people over right where the speed limit changes because it's not right.

So wait. They're pulling you over and making up numbers, just for "MONEY"... but they don't pull people over at certain other places, because "it's not right"? Doesn't that seem a little conflicting?

It's like the whole on ramp analogy where the speed limit is still technically 35 or so but you have to speed up or you'll get slammed in the back or cause a major accident. I've enetered highways plenty of times before and the "new" speed limit is at least a couple hundred feet after the on ramp.

Read the link I posted - for most (all?) states, an unposted highway has an 'assumed' speed, basically a default. When you go from on-ramp to highway, you're entering a new road. The limit for the ramp no longer applies, and until you pass a speed limit sign, you most go by the assumed limit. It varies from state to state, and depending on other factors, but it's generally 55-65.

 

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I sped up to 45mph when I saw the sign. He didn't pull me over for that OFFENSE. What about that don't you understand? Possibly because it's not very fair to do so..

OK, I've had enough. How in the living hell would that not be fair?