What most people would discern from that is that you want to delete the CD...not eject it. I've never understood why Apple couldn't just put friggin eject buttons on CD drives. No reason for them not to be there...if they are so innovative with their designs then they should be able to make it have an eject button but look like it doesn't have one.
What most people would discern from that is that you want to delete the CD...not eject it. I've never understood why Apple couldn't just put friggin eject buttons on CD drives. No reason for them not to be there...if they are so innovative with their designs then they should be able to make it have an eject button but look like it doesn't have one.
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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dug777
REAL pro's don't use Macs
people who like pretty design/software, and want to 'differntiate' themselves from all those 'common' PC users do...
*This advice was provided without warranty/guarantee or any acceptance of liability for anything by the CitizenDoug Advisory Office (aka ATOT)*
Well, except for the fact that 99% of the multimedia/graphics/publishing industry uses Macs.
They are all sheep. Apparently they like to spend more money than is necessary on equipment that they have been told all their life is the best for multimedia/graphics/publishing. I find my PC works much better for said tasks and yes..I have had to use Macs to do it in the past and was not happy with the performance and could find no reason why I would want to use a Mac over my PC.
Bah. I had to buy a Powerbook for my major (graphic design, they require a mac laptop). I thought the same as you until my Powerbook actually arrived. The pure sex that is the Powerbook is so much better than the Inspiron I had before that words cannot even begin to describe it. I've used Photoshop a lot on PC's before I ever got my mac, but I like using OS X better. It's not that it runs any faster, it is I would rather work (yes, work) on OS X than Win XP. OS X offers everything I need and then some. No, I can't really do much gaming but I'm not really worried about that. Graphics people use Macs because they like Macs, not because they are so much more powerful yadda yadda. Sheep, harldy.
An eject button is one more button to break and wire to become disconnected. Not having an eject button means that the eject button can never break
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dug777
REAL pro's don't use Macs
people who like pretty design/software, and want to 'differntiate' themselves from all those 'common' PC users do...
*This advice was provided without warranty/guarantee or any acceptance of liability for anything by the CitizenDoug Advisory Office (aka ATOT)*
Well, except for the fact that 99% of the multimedia/graphics/publishing industry uses Macs.
They are all sheep. Apparently they like to spend more money than is necessary on equipment that they have been told all their life is the best for multimedia/graphics/publishing. I find my PC works much better for said tasks and yes..I have had to use Macs to do it in the past and was not happy with the performance and could find no reason why I would want to use a Mac over my PC.
Bah. I had to buy a Powerbook for my major (graphic design, they require a mac laptop). I thought the same as you until my Powerbook actually arrived. The pure sex that is the Powerbook is so much better than the Inspiron I had before that words cannot even begin to describe it. I've used Photoshop a lot on PC's before I ever got my mac, but I like using OS X better. It's not that it runs any faster, it is I would rather work (yes, work) on OS X than Win XP. OS X offers everything I need and then some. No, I can't really do much gaming but I'm not really worried about that. Graphics people use Macs because they like Macs, not because they are so much more powerful yadda yadda. Sheep, harldy.
I totally agree. I went back to the school computer store and played with the G5 which had photoshop loaded on it. It was a joy to use. It went plenty fast and worked just as good -- and I didn't to use it on a computer cluttered with unnecessary crap.
Anyways, I actually canceled my order for the MacMini (they hadn't ordered it yet) and am going to get a G5 on Monday
I have one and love it. After using that, I bought a nice portable 12" iBook for my wife. No more support issues for me! She can just *use* it instead of have problems.
They are both excellent machines, and the design is awesome.
They are both excellent machines, and the design is awesome.
Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
An eject button is one more button to break and wire to become disconnected. Not having an eject button means that the eject button can never break
Uhm...wow. Let me think....in all my years repairing computers (PC's and Macs and Laptops and Printers)....here is the number of broken eject buttons I have seen: 0
EDIT: BTW...almost all eject buttons have no wires at all. They are simply a small switch that is mounted to the PCB.
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dug777
REAL pro's don't use Macs
people who like pretty design/software, and want to 'differntiate' themselves from all those 'common' PC users do...
*This advice was provided without warranty/guarantee or any acceptance of liability for anything by the CitizenDoug Advisory Office (aka ATOT)*
Well, except for the fact that 99% of the multimedia/graphics/publishing industry uses Macs.
They are all sheep. Apparently they like to spend more money than is necessary on equipment that they have been told all their life is the best for multimedia/graphics/publishing. I find my PC works much better for said tasks and yes..I have had to use Macs to do it in the past and was not happy with the performance and could find no reason why I would want to use a Mac over my PC.
Bah. I had to buy a Powerbook for my major (graphic design, they require a mac laptop). I thought the same as you until my Powerbook actually arrived. The pure sex that is the Powerbook is so much better than the Inspiron I had before that words cannot even begin to describe it. I've used Photoshop a lot on PC's before I ever got my mac, but I like using OS X better. It's not that it runs any faster, it is I would rather work (yes, work) on OS X than Win XP. OS X offers everything I need and then some. No, I can't really do much gaming but I'm not really worried about that. Graphics people use Macs because they like Macs, not because they are so much more powerful yadda yadda. Sheep, harldy.
I have an Inspiron...it works great and I have no problems with it at all. I have used Powerbooks...and I don't find any advantage that a Powerbook holds over my Inspiron. They are more expensive for something that works no better. Why pay for that?
If OS X does not run any faster...what do you like about it that XP doesn't offer? Why would you rather work on OS X than XP? I personally can't think of a reason.
I'm a graphics person...I use photoshop primarily for my photography, but I also use it for web design and graphics design when I need it. I do my own logos and business cards, etc. I have used Photoshop on Macs and find no advantage over my PC. And again...they cost more to get the same level of performance...so why pay more? I find no reason to, so I don't. If they held a tangible advantage over my PC for the grapihcs work that I do, then I would use one. But they don't...so there is no reason for me to pay a price premium.
Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dug777
REAL pro's don't use Macs
people who like pretty design/software, and want to 'differntiate' themselves from all those 'common' PC users do...
*This advice was provided without warranty/guarantee or any acceptance of liability for anything by the CitizenDoug Advisory Office (aka ATOT)*
Well, except for the fact that 99% of the multimedia/graphics/publishing industry uses Macs.
They are all sheep. Apparently they like to spend more money than is necessary on equipment that they have been told all their life is the best for multimedia/graphics/publishing. I find my PC works much better for said tasks and yes..I have had to use Macs to do it in the past and was not happy with the performance and could find no reason why I would want to use a Mac over my PC.
Bah. I had to buy a Powerbook for my major (graphic design, they require a mac laptop). I thought the same as you until my Powerbook actually arrived. The pure sex that is the Powerbook is so much better than the Inspiron I had before that words cannot even begin to describe it. I've used Photoshop a lot on PC's before I ever got my mac, but I like using OS X better. It's not that it runs any faster, it is I would rather work (yes, work) on OS X than Win XP. OS X offers everything I need and then some. No, I can't really do much gaming but I'm not really worried about that. Graphics people use Macs because they like Macs, not because they are so much more powerful yadda yadda. Sheep, harldy.
I totally agree. I went back to the school computer store and played with the G5 which had photoshop loaded on it. It was a joy to use. It went plenty fast and worked just as good -- and I didn't to use it on a computer cluttered with unnecessary crap.
Anyways, I actually canceled my order for the MacMini (they hadn't ordered it yet) and am going to get a G5 on Monday
So...if it worked just as good as a PC...why pay more for it? What is the reasoning? Are you simply paying more for aesthetically pleasing systems? Last I checked there are plenty of aesthetically pleasing PC cases. Why is OS X so much better than XP that it would cause you to want to use it even though you have to pay more to get a computer based off of it? You must have a valid reason for that. Personally...I do like OS X. It's a great operating system unlike just about all the previous Mac OSes. While I may in fact purchase something low cost like a Mac Mini to use it on...or I may see if I can toss the x86 version on an extra system I have...I have no desire to replace XP with OS X.
And why is your computer cluttered with unnecessary crap? Mine isn't.
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dug777
REAL pro's don't use Macs
people who like pretty design/software, and want to 'differntiate' themselves from all those 'common' PC users do...
*This advice was provided without warranty/guarantee or any acceptance of liability for anything by the CitizenDoug Advisory Office (aka ATOT)*
Well, except for the fact that 99% of the multimedia/graphics/publishing industry uses Macs.
They are all sheep. Apparently they like to spend more money than is necessary on equipment that they have been told all their life is the best for multimedia/graphics/publishing. I find my PC works much better for said tasks and yes..I have had to use Macs to do it in the past and was not happy with the performance and could find no reason why I would want to use a Mac over my PC.
Just because you prefer PCs, does not make mac users and graphics designers sheep. Expose alone is extremely useful for photoshop work, one button tiles all application windows and you can go through them much quicker than you can in windows due to this feature.
There's an eject button on the keyboard. That's easier than hitting the button on the drive, actually. In addition, the icon does change to an eject symbol.
Originally posted by: remagavon
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dug777
REAL pro's don't use Macs
people who like pretty design/software, and want to 'differntiate' themselves from all those 'common' PC users do...
*This advice was provided without warranty/guarantee or any acceptance of liability for anything by the CitizenDoug Advisory Office (aka ATOT)*
Well, except for the fact that 99% of the multimedia/graphics/publishing industry uses Macs.
They are all sheep. Apparently they like to spend more money than is necessary on equipment that they have been told all their life is the best for multimedia/graphics/publishing. I find my PC works much better for said tasks and yes..I have had to use Macs to do it in the past and was not happy with the performance and could find no reason why I would want to use a Mac over my PC.
Just because you prefer PCs, does not make mac users and graphics designers sheep. Expose alone is extremely useful for photoshop work, one button tiles all application windows and you can go through them much quicker than you can in windows due to this feature.
Simple for me. I just either Alt-Tab back and forth between programs, place programs on different monitors, or click on them on the taskbar. It's no easier or harder on either system.
Oh...and no not all mac users are sheep and not all graphics designers are sheep...but a LOT are. I have talked with a lot and they have no real substantial reason for why they use what they use and a lot of times they just start making fanboy claims (which thankfully I'm not seeing here) that Apple is "just better" or "just faster" ...etc.
Hell..sometimes I get the simple answer - "It's what I've always used...I haven't really used Windows". That's fine...doesn't bother me.
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: remagavon
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dug777
REAL pro's don't use Macs
people who like pretty design/software, and want to 'differntiate' themselves from all those 'common' PC users do...
*This advice was provided without warranty/guarantee or any acceptance of liability for anything by the CitizenDoug Advisory Office (aka ATOT)*
Well, except for the fact that 99% of the multimedia/graphics/publishing industry uses Macs.
They are all sheep. Apparently they like to spend more money than is necessary on equipment that they have been told all their life is the best for multimedia/graphics/publishing. I find my PC works much better for said tasks and yes..I have had to use Macs to do it in the past and was not happy with the performance and could find no reason why I would want to use a Mac over my PC.
Just because you prefer PCs, does not make mac users and graphics designers sheep. Expose alone is extremely useful for photoshop work, one button tiles all application windows and you can go through them much quicker than you can in windows due to this feature.
Simple for me. I just either Alt-Tab back and forth between programs, place programs on different monitors, or click on them on the taskbar. It's no easier or harder on either system.
Oh...and no not all mac users are sheep and not all graphics designers are sheep...but a LOT are. I have talked with a lot and they have no real substantial reason for why they use what they use and a lot of times they just start making fanboy claims (which thankfully I'm not seeing here) that Apple is "just better" or "just faster" ...etc.
Hell..sometimes I get the simple answer - "It's what I've always used...I haven't really used Windows". That's fine...doesn't bother me.
Just let this topic die already, its call personal preference. Shat.
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: remagavon
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dug777
REAL pro's don't use Macs
people who like pretty design/software, and want to 'differntiate' themselves from all those 'common' PC users do...
*This advice was provided without warranty/guarantee or any acceptance of liability for anything by the CitizenDoug Advisory Office (aka ATOT)*
Well, except for the fact that 99% of the multimedia/graphics/publishing industry uses Macs.
They are all sheep. Apparently they like to spend more money than is necessary on equipment that they have been told all their life is the best for multimedia/graphics/publishing. I find my PC works much better for said tasks and yes..I have had to use Macs to do it in the past and was not happy with the performance and could find no reason why I would want to use a Mac over my PC.
Just because you prefer PCs, does not make mac users and graphics designers sheep. Expose alone is extremely useful for photoshop work, one button tiles all application windows and you can go through them much quicker than you can in windows due to this feature.
Simple for me. I just either Alt-Tab back and forth between programs, place programs on different monitors, or click on them on the taskbar. It's no easier or harder on either system.
Oh...and no not all mac users are sheep and not all graphics designers are sheep...but a LOT are. I have talked with a lot and they have no real substantial reason for why they use what they use and a lot of times they just start making fanboy claims (which thankfully I'm not seeing here) that Apple is "just better" or "just faster" ...etc.
Hell..sometimes I get the simple answer - "It's what I've always used...I haven't really used Windows". That's fine...doesn't bother me.
Have you used expose? One button brings up all of the windows in your current app, nothing in XP does that. It's also a smooth transition, like every other one in the os (if you have the system to make it smooth..) that gives you a graphical representation of what you have open. Vista will have an enhanced alt+tab that provides similar functionality, but nothing like that exists yet for the PC.
Also, 'alt-tabbing' is enhanced in OSX, I just had to get used to it to appreciate the difference (it annoyed me at first). Cmd+Tab lets you swtich between running applications, and cmd+~ switches between windows in that app. Of course shift+cmd+tab goes back etc. just like in windows.
Ok so you bought a mac mini because it was cheaper on older technology that was user friendly and now you are switching to a g5 because....? It is more expensive and older technology but still user friendly? So you don't need much horsepower but now you need a g5. Makes a ton of sense. I agree about the simplicity like OMG you can click on an HD icon to access all your subfolders. That is SO user friendly. And OMG you can click an apple to go to the shutdown/logoff just like alt+f4 quickly jumps to the shutdown menu in windows. That is SO user friendly and intuitive.
Originally posted by: remagavon
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: remagavon
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dug777
REAL pro's don't use Macs
people who like pretty design/software, and want to 'differntiate' themselves from all those 'common' PC users do...
*This advice was provided without warranty/guarantee or any acceptance of liability for anything by the CitizenDoug Advisory Office (aka ATOT)*
Well, except for the fact that 99% of the multimedia/graphics/publishing industry uses Macs.
They are all sheep. Apparently they like to spend more money than is necessary on equipment that they have been told all their life is the best for multimedia/graphics/publishing. I find my PC works much better for said tasks and yes..I have had to use Macs to do it in the past and was not happy with the performance and could find no reason why I would want to use a Mac over my PC.
Just because you prefer PCs, does not make mac users and graphics designers sheep. Expose alone is extremely useful for photoshop work, one button tiles all application windows and you can go through them much quicker than you can in windows due to this feature.
Simple for me. I just either Alt-Tab back and forth between programs, place programs on different monitors, or click on them on the taskbar. It's no easier or harder on either system.
Oh...and no not all mac users are sheep and not all graphics designers are sheep...but a LOT are. I have talked with a lot and they have no real substantial reason for why they use what they use and a lot of times they just start making fanboy claims (which thankfully I'm not seeing here) that Apple is "just better" or "just faster" ...etc.
Hell..sometimes I get the simple answer - "It's what I've always used...I haven't really used Windows". That's fine...doesn't bother me.
Have you used expose? One button brings up all of the windows in your current app, nothing in XP does that. It's also a smooth transition, like every other one in the os (if you have the system to make it smooth..) that gives you a graphical representation of what you have open. Vista will have an enhanced alt+tab that provides similar functionality, but nothing like that exists yet for the PC.
Also, 'alt-tabbing' is enhanced in OSX, I just had to get used to it to appreciate the difference (it annoyed me at first). Cmd+Tab lets you swtich between running applications, and cmd+~ switches between windows in that app. Of course shift+cmd+tab goes back etc. just like in windows.
Yes I have used expose.
I don't need some OS thing to bring up a bunch of files I have open in an app. I know what I have open in an app and if I need to switch between those...yes Windows can do that and has done that for a long time - ctrl + tab. Either ctrl + tab or I just simply click on the file that I want to switch to. So...OS X does not have "enhanged alt-tabbing". It has expose, which I admit looks cool, but is of little use to me. Oh...and yeah there is a power toy or something for XP which does the same thing with alt-tab - it shows large graphic pictures of the apps you have open. I tried it and didn't like it.
The mini is, unfortunately, terrible if you're running a resolution higher than 1280x1024. Macs hold their value well, so in a year if he wants to upgrade to Intel he can probably get at least 1/2 of his system price back through ebay or something similar. If you've never used a mac for an extended period of time in a personal setting then you won't understand the 'intuitiveness' of the OS.
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: remagavon
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: remagavon
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dug777
REAL pro's don't use Macs
people who like pretty design/software, and want to 'differntiate' themselves from all those 'common' PC users do...
*This advice was provided without warranty/guarantee or any acceptance of liability for anything by the CitizenDoug Advisory Office (aka ATOT)*
Well, except for the fact that 99% of the multimedia/graphics/publishing industry uses Macs.
They are all sheep. Apparently they like to spend more money than is necessary on equipment that they have been told all their life is the best for multimedia/graphics/publishing. I find my PC works much better for said tasks and yes..I have had to use Macs to do it in the past and was not happy with the performance and could find no reason why I would want to use a Mac over my PC.
Just because you prefer PCs, does not make mac users and graphics designers sheep. Expose alone is extremely useful for photoshop work, one button tiles all application windows and you can go through them much quicker than you can in windows due to this feature.
Simple for me. I just either Alt-Tab back and forth between programs, place programs on different monitors, or click on them on the taskbar. It's no easier or harder on either system.
Oh...and no not all mac users are sheep and not all graphics designers are sheep...but a LOT are. I have talked with a lot and they have no real substantial reason for why they use what they use and a lot of times they just start making fanboy claims (which thankfully I'm not seeing here) that Apple is "just better" or "just faster" ...etc.
Hell..sometimes I get the simple answer - "It's what I've always used...I haven't really used Windows". That's fine...doesn't bother me.
Have you used expose? One button brings up all of the windows in your current app, nothing in XP does that. It's also a smooth transition, like every other one in the os (if you have the system to make it smooth..) that gives you a graphical representation of what you have open. Vista will have an enhanced alt+tab that provides similar functionality, but nothing like that exists yet for the PC.
Also, 'alt-tabbing' is enhanced in OSX, I just had to get used to it to appreciate the difference (it annoyed me at first). Cmd+Tab lets you swtich between running applications, and cmd+~ switches between windows in that app. Of course shift+cmd+tab goes back etc. just like in windows.
Yes I have used expose.
I don't need some OS thing to bring up a bunch of files I have open in an app. I know what I have open in an app and if I need to switch between those...yes Windows can do that and has done that for a long time - ctrl + tab. Either ctrl + tab or I just simply click on the file that I want to switch to. So...OS X does not have "enhanged alt-tabbing". It has expose, which I admit looks cool, but is of little use to me. Oh...and yeah there is a power toy or something for XP which does the same thing with alt-tab - it shows large graphic pictures of the apps you have open. I tried it and didn't like it.
I'm using AIM, and IE right now, and neither one of those switches between application windows when I hit ctrl + tab. When you have 10 photoshop documents open, and are cutting/pasting between them (for say web design) this is a very handy feature of the OS.
Originally posted by: remagavon
The mini is, unfortunately, terrible if you're running a resolution higher than 1280x1024. Macs hold their value well, so in a year if he wants to upgrade to Intel he can probably get at least 1/2 of his system price back through ebay or something similar. If you've never used a mac for an extended period of time in a personal setting then you won't understand the 'intuitiveness' of the OS.
So you have to use a mac for an extended length of time in a "personal setting" (WTF ever that means) in order for you to unerstand the intuitiveness?
yeah....REAL intuitive there.
Oh...it's intuitive and user friendly...but you have to use it for a year first. Oh and in a "personal setting"....
Originally posted by: remagavon
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: remagavon
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: remagavon
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dug777
REAL pro's don't use Macs
people who like pretty design/software, and want to 'differntiate' themselves from all those 'common' PC users do...
*This advice was provided without warranty/guarantee or any acceptance of liability for anything by the CitizenDoug Advisory Office (aka ATOT)*
Well, except for the fact that 99% of the multimedia/graphics/publishing industry uses Macs.
They are all sheep. Apparently they like to spend more money than is necessary on equipment that they have been told all their life is the best for multimedia/graphics/publishing. I find my PC works much better for said tasks and yes..I have had to use Macs to do it in the past and was not happy with the performance and could find no reason why I would want to use a Mac over my PC.
Just because you prefer PCs, does not make mac users and graphics designers sheep. Expose alone is extremely useful for photoshop work, one button tiles all application windows and you can go through them much quicker than you can in windows due to this feature.
Simple for me. I just either Alt-Tab back and forth between programs, place programs on different monitors, or click on them on the taskbar. It's no easier or harder on either system.
Oh...and no not all mac users are sheep and not all graphics designers are sheep...but a LOT are. I have talked with a lot and they have no real substantial reason for why they use what they use and a lot of times they just start making fanboy claims (which thankfully I'm not seeing here) that Apple is "just better" or "just faster" ...etc.
Hell..sometimes I get the simple answer - "It's what I've always used...I haven't really used Windows". That's fine...doesn't bother me.
Have you used expose? One button brings up all of the windows in your current app, nothing in XP does that. It's also a smooth transition, like every other one in the os (if you have the system to make it smooth..) that gives you a graphical representation of what you have open. Vista will have an enhanced alt+tab that provides similar functionality, but nothing like that exists yet for the PC.
Also, 'alt-tabbing' is enhanced in OSX, I just had to get used to it to appreciate the difference (it annoyed me at first). Cmd+Tab lets you swtich between running applications, and cmd+~ switches between windows in that app. Of course shift+cmd+tab goes back etc. just like in windows.
Yes I have used expose.
I don't need some OS thing to bring up a bunch of files I have open in an app. I know what I have open in an app and if I need to switch between those...yes Windows can do that and has done that for a long time - ctrl + tab. Either ctrl + tab or I just simply click on the file that I want to switch to. So...OS X does not have "enhanged alt-tabbing". It has expose, which I admit looks cool, but is of little use to me. Oh...and yeah there is a power toy or something for XP which does the same thing with alt-tab - it shows large graphic pictures of the apps you have open. I tried it and didn't like it.
I'm using AIM, and IE right now, and neither one of those switches between application windows when I hit ctrl + tab. When you have 10 photoshop documents open, and are cutting/pasting between them (for say web design) this is a very handy feature of the OS.
*sigh* No...you don't ctrl + tab between applications. You alt + tab between applications. You ctrl + tab between the different windows in an application. IE doesn't have different windows within the application, it merely opens another instance of the application, so you just use alt + tab there. I use Firefox...I can ctrl + tab between all my tabs just fine.
AIM just sucks..I use trillian. This must be the worthless crap you wre talking about. I'd uninstall AIM.
When I have 10 photoshop documents open...they are usually spread out enough so that I can see each one and just click on whatever one I want to switch to.
I'm not personally insulting you, please try to refrain from that. I'm using bundled software and freely available, popular apps.
The features I talked about in OSX work completely system wide, so this isn't really comparable. I don't like using tabs, but that is really just a personal preference and is outside the scope of my argument.
Edit: Also, I only see one instance of Aim.exe running in my processes tab, so I don't think you're entirely correct in saying it's another instance of the program. I think the ctrl+tab you're talking about is built into the functionality of the application.
Originally posted by: dug777
REAL pro's don't use Macs
EXACTLY. In the real world of the audio/visual arts, you'll find approximately a 50/50 split between all-mac houses and all-PC houses.
Static graphics:
All the good software runs the same on both platforms.
Web design:
All the good software runs the same on both platforms.
Video cutting:
Premiere Pro is tried and true and is primarily PC these days.
Final Cut Pro is satanically expensive when compared to Premiere Pro, and is essentially a clone. Don't even get me started on "HD".
Video effects:
AfterEffects is aging, but still very versatile - and primarily PC.
<I can't remember what Apple's product is called> is an AfterEffects clone.
Audio:
NOBODY IN THE RIGHT FVCKING MIND uses Apple's software. It's all down to third parties. ProTools doesn't like PCs, but there's so much viable competition to it these days. Thereby, you will pick a product and use it on the platform it was meant for.
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: dug777
REAL pro's don't use Macs
EXACTLY. In the real world of the audio/visual arts, you'll find approximately a 50/50 split between all-mac houses and all-PC houses.
Static graphics:
All the good software runs the same on both platforms.
Web design:
All the good software runs the same on both platforms.
Video cutting:
Premiere Pro is tried and true and is primarily PC these days.
Final Cut Pro is satanically expensive when compared to Premiere Pro, and is essentially a clone. Don't even get me started on "HD".
Video effects:
AfterEffects is aging, but still very versatile - and primarily PC.
<I can't remember what Apple's product is called> is an AfterEffects clone.
Audio:
NOBODY IN THE RIGHT FVCKING MIND uses Apple's software. It's all down to third parties. ProTools doesn't like PCs, but there's so much viable competition to it these days. Thereby, you will pick a product and use it on the platform it was meant for.
Protools is literally the standard in professional audio recording.
Premiere Pro retails for $699, Final cut retails for $999. That's not an extremely significant difference. Adobe's video editing suite retails for $1499, whereas final cut studio is actually cheaper at $1299.
I'm not insulting you either. That comment wasn't meant for you as I thought someone else had posted it...looked in the wrong place as to the creator of that post =/
But really...AIM is horrible and I don't know why anyone would use it.
Originally posted by: remagavon
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: dug777
REAL pro's don't use Macs
EXACTLY. In the real world of the audio/visual arts, you'll find approximately a 50/50 split between all-mac houses and all-PC houses.
Static graphics:
All the good software runs the same on both platforms.
Web design:
All the good software runs the same on both platforms.
Video cutting:
Premiere Pro is tried and true and is primarily PC these days.
Final Cut Pro is satanically expensive when compared to Premiere Pro, and is essentially a clone. Don't even get me started on "HD".
Video effects:
AfterEffects is aging, but still very versatile - and primarily PC.
<I can't remember what Apple's product is called> is an AfterEffects clone.
Audio:
NOBODY IN THE RIGHT FVCKING MIND uses Apple's software. It's all down to third parties. ProTools doesn't like PCs, but there's so much viable competition to it these days. Thereby, you will pick a product and use it on the platform it was meant for.
Protools is literally the standard in professional audio recording.
Premiere Pro retails for $699, Final cut retails for $999. That's not an extremely significant difference. Adobe's video editing suite retails for $1499, whereas final cut studio is actually cheaper at $1299.
Interesting, Apple dropped the price on Final Cut, because last I looked (more than a year and a half ago) it was $1300. That's a first in their entire history.
And the Adobe suite includes Photoshop at the $1500 price point. Stop cheating. It's $999 if you don't want Photoshop. The price difference obviously goes in the favor of a Windows platform both in terms of software and hardware. And functionality is... Well, identical.
And as for ProTools, yes, it's still the "benchmark" standard, but go walk into a radio station or recording studio and look at the software they're running. You'll find relatively little of it compared to what you used to.
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