Originally posted by: Ameesh
i just saw it, pretty fvcked up.
Almost as bad as making a bunch of prisoners sodimize each other and making them get undressed and threatening them with a dog who intends to bite off their genitals, then taking pictures of the whole ordeal and spreading them around.
Originally posted by: Emveach
Originally posted by: Ameesh
i just saw it, pretty fvcked up.
Almost as bad as making a bunch of prisoners sodimize each other and making them get undressed and threatening them with a dog who intends to bite off their genitals, then taking pictures of the whole ordeal and spreading them around.
ALMOST as bad??? Wow...you're right. They only killed him...how dare we humilate someone or abuse them...and scaring them...such animals we are. We should have just killed them too. Then I suppose we'd be almost as good as them.:roll:
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: Emveach
Originally posted by: Ameesh
i just saw it, pretty fvcked up.
Almost as bad as making a bunch of prisoners sodimize each other and making them get undressed and threatening them with a dog who intends to bite off their genitals, then taking pictures of the whole ordeal and spreading them around.
ALMOST as bad??? Wow...you're right. They only killed him...how dare we humilate someone or abuse them...and scaring them...such animals we are. We should have just killed them too. Then I suppose we'd be almost as good as them.:roll:
you do realize that to most of these hardcore muslim men, sodomy and sexual relations with another man is a mortal sin. many of them might have prefered death to that kind of abuse. just because your values dictate otherwise doesn't mean theirs do.
imagine the worse thing someone can do to you, your brothers, your children, and your family. Would that worse thing be death? IMO there are a lot worse things then death. and some of the disgusting atrocities that those red neck yokels in uniforms did might not bother you but it really pissed off those guys who murdered that man.
everyone can expect more retribution from the "terrorists" while people in the people in prisons are being treated like garbage.
and ask yourself this, if someone humliated your family like the US soliders did to those prisoners, would you want revenge? would you want retribution? would you want justice? would you want to kill someone? could you be soo angry that you would find the first one of theirs you could and cut his head off?
murdering an innocent man is never justifiable, all i am saying is that it is understandable.
Originally posted by: Eli
It's really not as bad as I thought it would be.. I mean it's surely very disturbing, but.... it could be worse.
Originally posted by: Eli
It's really not as bad as I thought it would be.. I mean it's surely very disturbing, but.... it could be worse.
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
there wasn't torture involved.
If you've seen passion of the christ.. how those ancient romans torture is 10000000000000x worse...
That wasn't even a slow painful death.
Yes it was disturbing, but no it's not the worst that can ever happen, nor does it even come close.
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
there wasn't torture involved.
If you've seen passion of the christ.. how those ancient romans torture is 10000000000000x worse...
That wasn't even a slow painful death.
Yes it was disturbing, but no it's not the worst that can ever happen, nor does it even come close.
Totally agreed.Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: Emveach
Originally posted by: Ameesh
i just saw it, pretty fvcked up.
Almost as bad as making a bunch of prisoners sodimize each other and making them get undressed and threatening them with a dog who intends to bite off their genitals, then taking pictures of the whole ordeal and spreading them around.
ALMOST as bad??? Wow...you're right. They only killed him...how dare we humilate someone or abuse them...and scaring them...such animals we are. We should have just killed them too. Then I suppose we'd be almost as good as them.:roll:
you do realize that to most of these hardcore muslim men, sodomy and sexual relations with another man is a mortal sin. many of them might have prefered death to that kind of abuse. just because your values dictate otherwise doesn't mean theirs do.
imagine the worse thing someone can do to you, your brothers, your children, and your family. Would that worse thing be death? IMO there are a lot worse things then death. and some of the disgusting atrocities that those red neck yokels in uniforms did might not bother you but it really pissed off those guys who murdered that man.
everyone can expect more retribution from the "terrorists" while people in the people in prisons are being treated like garbage.
and ask yourself this, if someone humliated your family like the US soliders did to those prisoners, would you want revenge? would you want retribution? would you want justice? would you want to kill someone? could you be soo angry that you would find the first one of theirs you could and cut his head off?
murdering an innocent man is never justifiable, all i am saying is that it is understandable.
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Hmm. I know exactly what it will be like and although normally i'd fell compelled to watch it in this case I'm not sure I need to, because things like this just lower my opinion of humankind, and it's already low enough.
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
i just watched it... grasping the b/f hand while it started, until he had no circulation in it....
after watching it, it is not as gruesome as i feared it was gonna be. It was horrible, dont get me wrong, but I must have been desensitized by all the gore movies I watched as a teenager. I suppose knowing that this is real makes it worse.
I will say, however, that I have ZERO sympathy for the chicken azz terrorists. If we made the huge parts of that country a parking lot, it would not bother me one bit. I mean they are all gungho and tough, but too chicken azz to take their masks off?
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You see, that's the problem. Go out and nuke a country, getting 1000 terrorists and 10 000 000 innocent civilians is no answer. Not only do you kill 10 million people, but you create 10 million more terrorists.
So, what then... ?
Reason, bargaining...?
I must respectfully disagree with you... There is only one language these fvcking animals understand. It is not reasoning, or bargaining or anything else that makes sense to people with a soul.
We must agree to disagree here.
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Originally posted by: Eli
Totally agreed.
Just put yourself in their shoes. Really, it's not very hard. This is still the real world, remember? When you're at war with someone, anything goes.
It is certainly sad and disturbing, mostly because we're not accumstomed to that kind of thing, but listen to yourselves.. nuke 'em, kill 'em all.. You really think that's the answer? If you do, then you're no better than them.
You know... the terrorists are winning..If if is our freedom they want to destroy, are succeeding in having it taken away.
Originally posted by: SampSon
It's not an american.
The first 4 minutes are just the head honcho(I guess) reading from some papers.Originally posted by: JoPh
how long is the actualy kill scene in the movie? that last minute? if it nots a lot drawn out scene. maybe ill watch it.
but if it like over have of the clip i dont think i will.
Originally posted by: JoPh
how long is the actualy kill scene in the movie? that last minute? if it nots a lot drawn out scene. maybe ill watch it.
but if it like over have of the clip i dont think i will.
heh. You mean the human being kind of people?Originally posted by: GoodDad
Originally posted by: JoPh
how long is the actualy kill scene in the movie? that last minute? if it nots a lot drawn out scene. maybe ill watch it.
but if it like over have of the clip i dont think i will.
it takes them about 20 seconds to kill and behead him.
I think we all should watch it to remind us what kind of people we are dealing with.