So confused about the beginning of Christianity

[JEDI]

If Moses found the 10 Commandments...

so the old testament was about the jews, moses, and the 10 commandments. the new testament was about jesus and christianity? and the combination is the bible? why isnt just the new testament the christian bible, since the old testament were about the jews?

How did it go from old to new? what do jews follow after the old testament stopped?

<------- non religious

Esplain pls

 

[RCN]

Cause Jesus was a Jew and his teachings are based on the OT/ OT God. He is supposed to be the messiah of the OT. Jews (smart) realized he was just a dirty hippie so the religion was sold by Peter and Paul to the gentiles.

The OT hasn't really stopped.

 

[TBone48]

Jews follow the old testament, mainly the first 5 books (Genesis-Deuteronomy) and the Torah. Christ was born raised lived and died a Jew. His original followers were called people or followers of "the way" based on his statement "I am the way, the truth and the life".

The writings of His followers comprise the new testament.

 

[Xyclone]

Wikipedia FTW.

 

[wfbberzerker]

Originally posted by: TBone48
Jews follow the old testament, mainly the first 5 books (Genesis-Deuteronomy) and the Torah. Christ was born raised lived and died a Jew. His original followers were called people or followers of "the way" based on his statement "I am the way, the truth and the life".

torah is the first five books.

 

[TBone48]

Originally posted by: wfbberzerker

Originally posted by: TBone48
Jews follow the old testament, mainly the first 5 books (Genesis-Deuteronomy) and the Torah. Christ was born raised lived and died a Jew. His original followers were called people or followers of "the way" based on his statement "I am the way, the truth and the life".

torah is the first five books.

Is it? I thought the Torah and the law were 2 different things. Sorry!

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: wfbberzerker

Originally posted by: TBone48
Jews follow the old testament, mainly the first 5 books (Genesis-Deuteronomy) and the Torah. Christ was born raised lived and died a Jew. His original followers were called people or followers of "the way" based on his statement "I am the way, the truth and the life".

torah is the first five books.

Is it? I thought the Torah and the law were 2 different things. Sorry!

The Torah = The Law

 

[TBone48]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: wfbberzerker

Originally posted by: TBone48
Jews follow the old testament, mainly the first 5 books (Genesis-Deuteronomy) and the Torah. Christ was born raised lived and died a Jew. His original followers were called people or followers of "the way" based on his statement "I am the way, the truth and the life".

torah is the first five books.

Is it? I thought the Torah and the law were 2 different things. Sorry!

The Torah = The Law

Thanks. Sorry for posting bad info

 

[JEDI]

so:

so both christians and jews started off the same path and believed in the old testament.

the point of the split was at the new testament. christians followed the new testament, while jews still followed the old testament?

and the jews renamed the old testament to the Torah?

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: JEDI
so:

so both christians and jews started off the same path and believed in the old testament.

the point of the split was at the new testament. christians followed the new testament, while jews still followed the old testament?

and the jews renamed the old testament to the Torah?

Christianity is a derivative from Judaism

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: JEDI
so the old testament was about the jews, moses, and the 10 commandments. the new testament was about jesus and christianity? and the combination is the bible? why isnt just the new testament the christian bible, since the old testament were about the jews?

How did it go from old to new? what do jews follow after the old testament stopped?

<------- non religious

Esplain pls

The bible is simply a collection of books, letters, and documentation thrown together to make a long history book detailing events between man and God. Nothing more, nothing less. It did not exist in the time of any person found in the bible, there was no old testament or new testament.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: TBone48
Jews follow the old testament, mainly the first 5 books (Genesis-Deuteronomy) and the Torah. Christ was born raised lived and died a Jew. His original followers were called people or followers of "the way" based on his statement "I am the way, the truth and the life".

The original followers were called Christians, which is documented in the bible. Who told you they were called followers of "the way"? Was it the cult of the same name?

 

[Powermoloch]

Jesus got most of his teachings from David.....he got baptized by David didn't he?

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Jesus got most of his teachings from David.....he got baptized by David didn't he?

You've never read the bible, have you?

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Jesus got most of his teachings from David.....he got baptized by David didn't he?

You've never read the bible, have you?

Nawh, just watched too much history channel lol.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: Powermoloch

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Jesus got most of his teachings from David.....he got baptized by David didn't he?

You've never read the bible, have you?

Nawh, just watched too much history channel lol.

There is no David in the New Testament.

 

[zephyrprime]

Originally posted by: JEDI
so:

so both christians and jews started off the same path and believed in the old testament.

the point of the split was at the new testament. christians followed the new testament, while jews still followed the old testament?

and the jews renamed the old testament to the Torah?

You're focusing too much on the books and not enough on what events actually happened to go into the books.

Originally, there were only the Jews and they had a book called the torah. Then Jesus came along and his followers were jews and also the first christians. These early christians went on to write testemonials of their experiences and then a latter church council hundreds of years later collected *some* of the first hand accounts together to form the New Testement.

From a modern Christian's religious perspective, the Jews are their predecessors that failed to follow the messiah. From a modern Jew's perspective, Christians are jews that screwed up and are following a false messiah.

(also, this doesn't have anything to do with the Jews but after Rome fell, the Chrisian world became physically split in two and each part was unable to communicate with the other. One part became the Roman Catholic Church and the other part became the Eastern Orthodox Church. Later, Martin Lurthor ignited dissent and the Catholic church splintered and became some of the various denominations that exists today.)

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Jesus got most of his teachings from David.....he got baptized by David didn't he?

David was the little guy who threw the rock at the big guy. Remember?

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: Powermoloch

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Jesus got most of his teachings from David.....he got baptized by David didn't he?

You've never read the bible, have you?

Nawh, just watched too much history channel lol.

There is no David in the New Testament.

I'm pretty sure Jesus didn't get his teachings from his butt buddy either

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
(also, this doesn't have anything to do with the Jews but after Rome fell, the Chrisian world became physically split in two and each part was unable to communicate with the other. One part became the Roman Catholic Church and the other part became the Eastern Orthodox Church. Later, Martin Lurthor ignited dissent and the Catholic church splintered and became some of the various denominations that exists today.)

The Christian church never split, the catholic church is a seperate entitity entirely. They have entirely different beliefs, traditions, and gods that they pray to.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Jesus got most of his teachings from David.....he got baptized by David didn't he?

You've never read the bible, have you?

wow.. if you're christian, that's pretty sad, lol

anyway, the prophesied messiah was supposed to be from the house of david. jesus was of the line of david.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Jesus got most of his teachings from David.....he got baptized by David didn't he?

You've never read the bible, have you?

wow.. if you're christian, that's pretty sad, lol

anyway, the prophesied messiah was supposed to be from the house of david. jesus was of the line of david.

are you talking to malak or powermoloch?

 

[Powermoloch]

my bad, it's john the baptist

lol

my brain farted

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
(also, this doesn't have anything to do with the Jews but after Rome fell, the Chrisian world became physically split in two and each part was unable to communicate with the other. One part became the Roman Catholic Church and the other part became the Eastern Orthodox Church. Later, Martin Lurthor ignited dissent and the Catholic church splintered and became some of the various denominations that exists today.)

The Christian church never split, the catholic church is a seperate entitity entirely. They have entirely different beliefs, traditions, and gods that they pray to.

horribly wrong. catholic = christian. christian means you believe in christ, simple as that. christians (protestants, lutherans, baptists, etc.) have varying practices of worship, but ultimately worship the same one god as catholics do

 

[Fenixgoon]

haha ok powermoloch