So, ATP&N, what are you planning on spending the 3rd round of Coronabucks on?

[ponyo]

It's a beautiful state. I still wouldn't live there. I had the chance to transfer out there about 20 years ago and also around the same time, a friend moved out there and he and his wife begged me to move out there and were trying to entice me by hooking me up with her friends, but I couldn't do it. It just isn't worth the premium to me. We make enough to live comfortably in California but here in Indiana, we make a fortune relatively speaking. I work for a national company and work remotely from Indiana and my salary is competitive nationally rather than just in the midwest, so I have it pretty good.

You're comparing it now vs unknown. You've no idea how your life would've turned out if you moved out to California 20 years ago. I don't know anything about your career or finance but my guess is you've benefited financially from the move. It's almost always better to work/live in higher cost of living area during your working years. You get paid more and real estate which makes up bulk of normal American net worth appreciates substantially more. Other than housing, cost of living is not that much higher in CA vs IN. It's not like car or TV you buy cost more in CA than in IN. But you would had opportunity career wise unavailable to you in IN. If you had hooked up with any of the FAANG companies and received stock options, you would've killed it. Or any of the numerous other tech companies with nice stock options.

 

[zzyzxroad]

In my fantasy, somewhere between Santa Barbara and Paso Robles near or on the coast. I'd have to rethink not drinking though being in wine country.

I love that area. As soon as I am fully vaccinated the wife and I will probably heed up to Paso Robles for a week.

 

[cytg111]

Soo peeps moving out of blue and into red .. is that why red is losing its grip? Not only on reality but power too?

 

[brianmanahan]

he and his wife begged me to move out there and were trying to entice me by hooking me up with her friends

 

[zzyzxroad]

You're comparing it now vs unknown. You've no idea how your life would've turned out if you moved out to California 20 years ago. I don't know anything about your career or finance but my guess is you've benefited financially from the move. It's almost always better to work/live in higher cost of living area during your working years. You get paid more and real estate which makes up bulk of normal American net worth appreciates substantially more. Other than housing, cost of living is not that much higher in CA vs IN. It's not like car or TV you buy cost more in CA than in IN. But you would had opportunity career wise unavailable to you in IN. If you had hooked up with any of the FAANG companies and received stock options, you would've killed it. Or any of the numerous other tech companies with nice stock options.

To each their own. The state income tax is a lot more but as you said pay compensation normally compensates for that.

 

[Paratus]

Gotta love how fools trash red states yet blue states lose population to...wait for it.....red states.

Do as you say and not as you do, eh? Why not stay in your "paradises" and enjoy those human wastes and feces in your lovely cities lol.

'SnapCrap' app invites San Francisco residents to report poop on city streets (sfgate.com)

Decaying crap indeed.

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Sure people move from CA and NY to Texas for example. But they don’t move to rural areas with a town of a few hundred and the biggest employers are the mill that just closed and meth dealing.

They move to major blue areas in and around blue cities. Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio.

Actually if there was no voter suppression by republicans would there actually be any “red states”?

 

[esquared]

I love that area. As soon as I am fully vaccinated the wife and I will probably heed up to Paso Robles for a week.

Cambria is nice for a weekend. About 30 miles west.

 

[sportage]

I think I'll give mine to whoever runs against Donald Trump in 2024.

 

[nakedfrog]

I am hereby announcing my presidential run against Donald Trump for the coming 2024 election.

I can haz check plz?

 

[MrSquished]

Having lived near NYC and traveled to many of the major cities in the US, Indianapolis is not really a major city, it's a small city or big village comparatively. But nothing compares to NYC. It's not the best for everyone, but it's truly a major city when put into context of the world's major cities. Many other so called major cities in the states just don't compare.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Cambria is nice for a weekend. About 30 miles west.

From Santa Barbara up to Monterey you really cant go wrong. Some of my fondest family vacations as a kid were road trips up the coast. Thankfully my dad liked to camp so we would always it at least make it to big sur.

Having lived near NYC and traveled to many of the major cities in the US, Indianapolis is not really a major city, it's a small city or big village comparatively. But nothing compares to NYC. It's not the best for everyone, but it's truly a major city when put into context of the world's major cities. Many other so called major cities in the states just don't compare.

NYC always seemed insane until I went to Hong Kong. Geez I have been cooped up for a year and am dying to go anywhere.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Generator, shed, bike gear, in that order

 

[ponyo]

Having lived near NYC and traveled to many of the major cities in the US, Indianapolis is not really a major city, it's a small city or big village comparatively. But nothing compares to NYC. It's not the best for everyone, but it's truly a major city when put into context of the world's major cities. Many other so called major cities in the states just don't compare.

You seem to suffer from inferiority complex.

 

[MrSquished]

You seem to suffer from inferiority complex.

Not really. I thought you were well traveled? But having been to cities around the country, St. Louis, Atlanta, Portland, Dallas, Houston, Orlando, Phoenix, Boston, Philly, Chicago, Minneapolis, New Orleans, Denver, San Diego, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Nashville, and others, and some around the world, it's the truth. You really want to compare Indianapolis with major cities like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, London, Paris, Tokyo, Seoul, Shanghai, etc..? Good luck. I'm not saying everywhere doesn't have it's charm or isn't great to live, but those ain't really major cities if you put them into context. Like small cities.

 

[nOOky]

We make too much, and won't be getting checks. However, my brother owes me about $2,000 and has for 4 years now, so I sent him an email asking for some sort of payment. I doubt I'll hear back until he needs money again. That's alright, he's a moron and mourned Rush Limbaugh, I don't need those kind of people in my life lol

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

We make too much, and won't be getting checks. However, my brother owes me about $2,000 and has for 4 years now, so I sent him an email asking for some sort of payment. I doubt I'll hear back until he needs money again. That's alright, he's a moron and mourned Rush Limbaugh, I don't need those kind of people in my life lol

Seem a little resentful there little buddy, sure you don't need some psychological help there?

 

[MrSquished]

I remember going to Atlanta. Stayed downtown for work. I got to my hotel and wanted to walk around and see lots of stuff. It was a village. A few things. Barely anything walkable. No real good mass transit. It's rated 91st out of 100 US cities for mass transit cities in the US, and that's not saying much, because so many cities in the US are mass transit handicapped. I mean ultimately Atlanta to me is like a dense driveable suburb. Which is great if you like dense driveable suburbs. If you like real actual major walkable and mass transit friendly major cities, not so much.

I walked 7 blocks from this girl's apartment on 18th St to a restaurant on 11th the other night. I passed restaurants from more styles of cuisine than I can remember. Less than 10 minute walk. Good luck doing that in Indianapolis.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Not really. I thought you were well traveled? But having been to cities around the country, St. Louis, Atlanta, Portland, Dallas, Houston, Orlando, Phoenix, Boston, Philly, Chicago, Minneapolis, New Orleans, Nashville, and others, and some around the world, it's the truth. You really want to compare Indianapolis with major cities like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, London, Paris, Tokyo, Seoul, Shanghai, etc..? Good luck. I'm not saying everywhere doesn't have it's charm or isn't great to live, but those ain't really major cities if you put them into context. Like small cities.

I only know a few people who live in Indianapolis and never been there. The people I know there are insanely steeped in right wing propaganda. Is that the norm there?

 

[MrSquished]

I only know a few people who live in Indianapolis and never been there. The people I know there are insanely steeped in right wing propaganda. Is that the norm there?

I've never been. I'm just basing the city characteristics based upon population, area and density compared to the many other cities I've been to around the country and seeing some images of it. They are cities, just not major ones.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

You're comparing it now vs unknown. You've no idea how your life would've turned out if you moved out to California 20 years ago. I don't know anything about your career or finance but my guess is you've benefited financially from the move. It's almost always better to work/live in higher cost of living area during your working years. You get paid more and real estate which makes up bulk of normal American net worth appreciates substantially more. Other than housing, cost of living is not that much higher in CA vs IN. It's not like car or TV you buy cost more in CA than in IN. But you would had opportunity career wise unavailable to you in IN. If you had hooked up with any of the FAANG companies and received stock options, you would've killed it. Or any of the numerous other tech companies with nice stock options.

The cost of living between Indiana and California is quite different even outside of housing. You’re correct in that there isn’t a big disparity in the price of durable goods, but I’m not buying a TV or car every week. Gas, for example, is much more expensive and I would buy that every week.

You’re also making some big assumptions so let me clear a couple of things up for you: 1) I don’t chase dollars. 2) I am not a “career” person. Yes, I have what people consider a “career,” but to me, it’s just a job and doesn’t matter that much to me. I just happen to be very good at what I do but make no mistake, it isn’t my life and I’m not going to die wishing I accomplished x, y, or z in my “career.”

It might have ended up exactly as you said - getting in on the ground floor of a successful tech company and killing it. It also may not have worked out that way at all. It’s interesting to think of all the possible outcomes, but at the end of the day, I chose being close to family over moving to California and I will never regret that. Like I said, I love California, but thInk I made the right decision.

 

[hal2kilo]

Lawn Tractor. It's warming up and the carcass of my old Sears/Huskavarna POC, it sitting where it died about 2 weeks too soon last fall. Can't even push the thing due to the hydrostatic drive freezing. Thank goodness I was in good enough shape by then to finish up the season with my follow behind self propelled. Going back to manual. I did not know they were still around.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Not really. I thought you were well traveled? But having been to cities around the country, St. Louis, Atlanta, Portland, Dallas, Houston, Orlando, Phoenix, Boston, Philly, Chicago, Minneapolis, New Orleans, Nashville, and others, and some around the world, it's the truth. You really want to compare Indianapolis with major cities like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, London, Paris, Tokyo, Seoul, Shanghai, etc..? Good luck. I'm not saying everywhere doesn't have it's charm or isn't great to live, but those ain't really major cities if you put them into context. Like small cities.

You seem to be replying to the wrong poster. I was the one who mentioned Indianapolis and I said I’ve been all over the world and to every city (and more) in the list of US cities you listed. And regardless of what you say, Indy is, in fact, a large city. Not an Alpha city like Tokyo, but a large and major city.

The whole point of my post was that as a place to live, Indianapolis is perfectly fine. I saw you were talking up NYC and downplaying cities like Indianapolis simply based on population. I honestly don’t mind NYC, and if I had to move somewhere else in the US, it probably would be close to the top. At any rate, judging a city based on population is pretty silly - if you want to play that game, remember, Tokyo is now twice the size of NYC.

 

[nOOky]

Seem a little resentful there little buddy, sure you don't need some psychological help there?

lol fuck you, coming from someone like you asshole. But my brother may be someone like you, so I'm glad he's begging me and not the other way around.

 

[MrSquished]

You seem to be replying to the wrong poster. I was the one who mentioned Indianapolis and I said I’ve been all over the world and to every city (and more) in the list of US cities you listed. And regardless of what you say, Indy is, in fact, a large city. Not an Alpha city like Tokyo, but a large and major city.

The whole point of my post was that as a place to live, Indianapolis is perfectly fine. I saw you were talking up NYC and downplaying cities like Indianapolis simply based on population. I honestly don’t mind NYC, and if I had to move somewhere else in the US, it probably would be close to the top. At any rate, judging a city based on population is pretty silly - if you want to play that game, remember, Tokyo is now twice the size of NYC.

Not downplaying. It's just not a major city. Every size has their charm. Yes Tokyo, not to mention multiple cities in China, are quite bigger than NYC or other major cities in the world.

At some point, after a certain population it's diminishing returns. It's not just population after a point; but density, walkability and transportation options are a big part of it.

The biggest disappointment I had when going to many other cities was I ran out of walkable stuff to do pretty quickly and had terrible transit options besides cars, which get pricey if you want to get around all day. There aren't too many major cities in the world that can check off those boxes.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I only know a few people who live in Indianapolis and never been there. The people I know there are insanely steeped in right wing propaganda. Is that the norm there?

Indianapolis itself is blue, like most big cities. The suburbs are purple and maybe lean more red, and the rural areas are very red. Like most places, most people here are decent people who are just trying to raise their families but unfortunately, some get duped by propaganda.

And it isn’t just uneducated people either - I have a coworker at my same level in our organization who got duped by obvious troll sites and conspiracy sites and she thought Indiana was “too liberal” because we have a moderate governor and decided to move to South Dakota. I could tell you so many comical stories about her.