Smoking Now Banned in All Connecticut Bars

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Mallow
god why can't it be banned in all 50 states?

Why can't drinking be banned in all 50 states?

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: shimsham
i would think that people driving home from the bar would create more risk to smokers and non-smokers than second hand smoke. since i dont go out drinking, im going to lobby for alcohol free bars.

that law is just stupid. you dont want to sit in a smokey bar, dont. go to chilis or tgif or somewhere. its not like its a health club or something. edit: and its a known fact that people smoke in bars, so its not like you shouldnt expect it.

So if there's a local band that's playing that you really like and want to see, someone that doesn't smoke and doesn't want to be subjected to secondhand smoke can't go and see that band because of that smoke filled environment? I personally was sick and tired of having my contact lenses buring my eyes because of the irritation caused by smoke. Oh wait, I wear contact lens, so I should be forced to wear my eyeglasses just to appease the smokers. Fvck that, smoke outside where it belongs, not in an enclosed public environment.

Do you always run to the government like a child when someone does something you don't like?

Spoke like a true nicotine addict. I had absolutely nothing to do with getting this law passed. But, as always, there are laws you are happy with, and others you may not be so pleased about. For once, the government did something to my liking. I don't smoke, hence, I like this law. I put up with the cigarette smoke ever since I've been going to bars and clubs (almost 14 years). Now it's time for the smokers to suffer, just as I have. You get no sympathy from me.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Spoke like a true nicotine addict.

Nothing to do with nicotine addiction or smoking. You need to start paying attention to the bigger picture.

You get no sympathy from me.

How will you feel when some ninnies get Howard Stern banned from the radio? Will you embrace such a move with the same pragmatism? Are so-called "decency" laws really any different? Will you accept the religious right saying "Now it's time for the Stern fans to suffer, just as we have. You get no sympathy from us."

Just because you agree with the results of a law doesn't necessarily mean it's a good law. I certainly wouldn't mind the results of such a law where I live, but the larger implications of a government being able to force dominion over the activities of a private citizen in his privately-owned business lead me to always oppose such a law - regardless of whether the results would personally benefit me.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: shimsham
i would think that people driving home from the bar would create more risk to smokers and non-smokers than second hand smoke. since i dont go out drinking, im going to lobby for alcohol free bars.

that law is just stupid. you dont want to sit in a smokey bar, dont. go to chilis or tgif or somewhere. its not like its a health club or something. edit: and its a known fact that people smoke in bars, so its not like you shouldnt expect it.

So if there's a local band that's playing that you really like and want to see, someone that doesn't smoke and doesn't want to be subjected to secondhand smoke can't go and see that band because of that smoke filled environment? I personally was sick and tired of having my contact lenses buring my eyes because of the irritation caused by smoke. Oh wait, I wear contact lens, so I should be forced to wear my eyeglasses just to appease the smokers. Fvck that, smoke outside where it belongs, not in an enclosed public environment.

Do you always run to the government like a child when someone does something you don't like?

Spoke like a true nicotine addict. I had absolutely nothing to do with getting this law passed. But, as always, there are laws you are happy with, and others you may not be so pleased about. For once, the government did something to my liking. I don't smoke, hence, I like this law. I put up with the cigarette smoke ever since I've been going to bars and clubs (almost 14 years). Now it's time for the smokers to suffer, just as I have. You get no sympathy from me.

I'm not a smoker.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Spoke like a true nicotine addict. I had absolutely nothing to do with getting this law passed. But, as always, there are laws you are happy with, and others you may not be so pleased about. For once, the government did something to my liking. I don't smoke, hence, I like this law. I put up with the cigarette smoke ever since I've been going to bars and clubs (almost 14 years). Now it's time for the smokers to suffer, just as I have. You get no sympathy from me.

I'm not a smoker.

pwned!

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Allio

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Allio
In fifty years, smoking will be consigned to the history books, and kids will say "Did people REALLY do that?"

That's EXACTLY what people said about alcohol and drugs when they made those illegal... more than 80 years ago. Amazing how well that worked, eh?

Wake up. You aren't God. You can't force people to live the way you want them to.

They also said that slavery would never be abolished.

Well, between you and Leroy, the trolls are out in full force in this thread.

Smoking has no relationship with slavery. And DUI kills 40k+ a year. Go 'way the both of you.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

You get no sympathy from me.

How will you feel when some ninnies get Howard Stern banned from the radio? Will you embrace such a move with the same pragmatism? Are so-called "decency" laws really any different? Will you accept the religious right saying "Now it's time for the Stern fans to suffer, just as we have. You get no sympathy from us."

Just because you agree with the results of a law doesn't necessarily mean it's a good law. I certainly wouldn't mind the results of such a law where I live, but the larger implications of a government being able to force dominion over the activities of a private citizen in his privately-owned business lead me to always oppose such a law - regardless of whether the results would personally benefit me.

Well said. That is exactly the issue.

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Spoke like a true nicotine addict. I had absolutely nothing to do with getting this law passed. But, as always, there are laws you are happy with, and others you may not be so pleased about. For once, the government did something to my liking. I don't smoke, hence, I like this law. I put up with the cigarette smoke ever since I've been going to bars and clubs (almost 14 years). Now it's time for the smokers to suffer, just as I have. You get no sympathy from me.

I'm not a smoker.

pwned!

All I know is that I'm going to enjoy going out with my friends (which I know is a foreign concept to most of you here) and breathing nice fresh air, not coming home smelling like I work at the Marlboro factory, while I see the smokers freezing their asses off outside.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Spoke like a true nicotine addict. I had absolutely nothing to do with getting this law passed. But, as always, there are laws you are happy with, and others you may not be so pleased about. For once, the government did something to my liking. I don't smoke, hence, I like this law. I put up with the cigarette smoke ever since I've been going to bars and clubs (almost 14 years). Now it's time for the smokers to suffer, just as I have. You get no sympathy from me.

I'm not a smoker.

pwned!

All I know is that I'm going to enjoy going out with my friends (which I know is a foreign concept to most of you here) and breathing nice fresh air, not coming home smelling like I work at the Marlboro factory, while I see the smokers freezing their asses off outside.

Hey, more ad hominems, that's good! At least you can string together a coherent sentence. Now try responding to Jzero's argument.

 

[Amused]

Smoking Now Banned in All Connecticut Bars

And all the ignorant and/or selfish people rejoice over another loss of private property rights.

As long as it's not your bull being gored, who the fsck cares, right?

 

[Nitemare]

Why not ban free speech in private while you are at it?

I would like to see a pub owner take this up to the Supreme Court so it can get bitch slapped down

<---Former smoker who believes you should be able to do wtf you want to do in your own place and how you want to do it.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Why not ban free speech in private while you are at it?

I would like to see a pub owner take this up to the Supreme Court so it can get bitch slapped down

<---Former smoker who believes you should be able to do wtf you want to do in your own place and how you want to do it.

<---Person who has never and will never smoke and thinks idiots like you should be shot

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: DeathByAnts

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Why not ban free speech in private while you are at it?

I would like to see a pub owner take this up to the Supreme Court so it can get bitch slapped down

<---Former smoker who believes you should be able to do wtf you want to do in your own place and how you want to do it.

<---Person who has never and will never smoke and thinks idiots like you should be shot

Kindly review Amused's post above, and my post above that, and then rethink your statement.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: DeathByAnts

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Why not ban free speech in private while you are at it?

I would like to see a pub owner take this up to the Supreme Court so it can get bitch slapped down

<---Former smoker who believes you should be able to do wtf you want to do in your own place and how you want to do it.

<---Person who has never and will never smoke and thinks idiots like you should be shot

As long as the government does the shooting for you .Hell without the anonymity of the internet spineless cowards like you would never had the cajones to say that to anybodies face so it makes since that sniveling little grovlers like you would want a Nanny Government

 

[dmcowen674]

Smoking now banned inside all buildings in Gwinnett County here east of Atlanta.

Bout time smokers go outside.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Spoke like a true nicotine addict. I had absolutely nothing to do with getting this law passed. But, as always, there are laws you are happy with, and others you may not be so pleased about. For once, the government did something to my liking. I don't smoke, hence, I like this law. I put up with the cigarette smoke ever since I've been going to bars and clubs (almost 14 years). Now it's time for the smokers to suffer, just as I have. You get no sympathy from me.

I'm not a smoker.

pwned!

All I know is that I'm going to enjoy going out with my friends (which I know is a foreign concept to most of you here) and breathing nice fresh air, not coming home smelling like I work at the Marlboro factory, while I see the smokers freezing their asses off outside.

I might take smoking back up just to hang outside these bars and make sure you get a nice big whiff of it when you enter and leave.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: DeathByAnts

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Why not ban free speech in private while you are at it?

I would like to see a pub owner take this up to the Supreme Court so it can get bitch slapped down

<---Former smoker who believes you should be able to do wtf you want to do in your own place and how you want to do it.

<---Person who has never and will never smoke and thinks idiots like you should be shot

Kindly review Amused's post above, and my post above that, and then rethink your statement.

The ants have eaten a path from eardrum to eardrum so he lacks the intellect to conceive that, please put address all remarks to him as you would a small child

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: DeathByAnts

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Why not ban free speech in private while you are at it?

I would like to see a pub owner take this up to the Supreme Court so it can get bitch slapped down

<---Former smoker who believes you should be able to do wtf you want to do in your own place and how you want to do it.

<---Person who has never and will never smoke and thinks idiots like you should be shot

As long as the government does the shooting for you .Hell without the anonymity of the internet spineless cowards like you would never had the cajones to say that to anybodies face so it makes since that sniveling little grovlers like you would want a Nanny Government

Sweet mother of Christ...I suddenly feel dirty for agreeing with Red Dawn.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: DeathByAnts

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Why not ban free speech in private while you are at it?

I would like to see a pub owner take this up to the Supreme Court so it can get bitch slapped down

<---Former smoker who believes you should be able to do wtf you want to do in your own place and how you want to do it.

<---Person who has never and will never smoke and thinks idiots like you should be shot

As long as the government does the shooting for you .Hell without the anonymity of the internet spineless cowards like you would never had the cajones to say that to anybodies face so it makes since that sniveling little grovlers like you would want a Nanny Government

Sweet mother of Christ...I suddenly feel dirty for agreeing with Red Dawn.

Occasionally he is right

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Spoke like a true nicotine addict. I had absolutely nothing to do with getting this law passed. But, as always, there are laws you are happy with, and others you may not be so pleased about. For once, the government did something to my liking. I don't smoke, hence, I like this law. I put up with the cigarette smoke ever since I've been going to bars and clubs (almost 14 years). Now it's time for the smokers to suffer, just as I have. You get no sympathy from me.

I'm not a smoker.

pwned!

All I know is that I'm going to enjoy going out with my friends (which I know is a foreign concept to most of you here) and breathing nice fresh air, not coming home smelling like I work at the Marlboro factory, while I see the smokers freezing their asses off outside.

I might take smoking back up just to hang outside these bars and make sure you get a nice big whiff of it when you enter and leave.

Please do, that way you'll get lung cancer that much faster and we won't have to put up with your trolling anymore.

 

[dangereuxjeux]

With public places, there is no doubt in my mind that smoking should be banned, because those places are for the whole spectrum of the population to enjoy, and so nobody should have to endure the possibility of health problems from somebody else smoking to enjoy them...

For private places, I waver a bit, but come to the same conclusion... On one hand, I think that the government shouldn't interfere with what somebody does in their own home/business. You don't have to go there, and nothing states that you inherently have the right to go to every private place. If there were no non-smoking law, I'd just refuse to go to a restaurant that chose to allow smoking, because it makes me sick to my stomach; but, if you wanted to go to a smoking place and smoke, go ahead. Sometimes, however, issues have less to do with "personal rights," and more to do with public health. The "businesses should be able to do what they want" argument would also mean that there should be no public health laws, building codes, etc. On this line of reasoning, I could cook up meals on my toilet seat, and you'd just learn better when you got sick. The government is not stepping in to take away your rights because people don't like smoke, they do it because it's harmful. I don't like people's ugly clothes and I won't be able to get them banned. This is about public health, and since we don't have responsibility for it, sometimes we don't even think about it.

I also remember (in response to somebody's comment about waitresses hating this law), that a good deal of backing was given to the law in some places by waitresses who didn't want to have to inhale second-hand smoke for hours on end in order to make a living. You might tell them to find a new place of work... they might tell you to just go outside to smoke. When your rights and their rights interfere, I'm glad that we err on the side of public health.

 

[Jzero]

Still no rebuttal to my post, eh? BostonRedSox, you were so quick to whip out the playground barbs when it came to Howard Stern, yet you're avoiding this particular bull.

What gives? Tell me why it's ok for the government to tell a private businessman that he cannot allow smoking in his bar, but it's not ok for the government to tell a private broadcaster that he can't say certain things on the air?

In both cases, if someone doesn't like what's going on, they can turn off the radio or patronize a different bar that does not allow smoking.

 

[FleshLight]

Originally posted by: dangereuxjeux
With public places, there is no doubt in my mind that smoking should be banned, because those places are for the whole spectrum of the population to enjoy, and so nobody should have to endure the possibility of health problems from somebody else smoking to enjoy them...

For private places, I waver a bit, but come to the same conclusion... On one hand, I think that the government shouldn't interfere with what somebody does in their own home/business. You don't have to go there, and nothing states that you inherently have the right to go to every private place. If there were no non-smoking law, I'd just refuse to go to a restaurant that chose to allow smoking, because it makes me sick to my stomach; but, if you wanted to go to a smoking place and smoke, go ahead. Sometimes, however, issues have less to do with "personal rights," and more to do with public health. The "businesses should be able to do what they want" argument would also mean that there should be no public health laws, building codes, etc. On this line of reasoning, I could cook up meals on my toilet seat, and you'd just learn better when you got sick. The government is not stepping in to take away your rights because people don't like smoke, they do it because it's harmful. I don't like people's ugly clothes and I won't be able to get them banned. This is about public health, and since we don't have responsibility for it, sometimes we don't even think about it.

I also remember (in response to somebody's comment about waitresses hating this law), that a good deal of backing was given to the law in some places by waitresses who didn't want to have to inhale second-hand smoke for hours on end in order to make a living. You might tell them to find a new place of work... they might tell you to just go outside to smoke. When your rights and their rights interfere, I'm glad that we err on the side of public health.

Simply put, if you don't like it, don't go/work there.

And what about alcohol? Let's ban that too since it creates hangovers, beer googles, and accidents?

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Spoke like a true nicotine addict. I had absolutely nothing to do with getting this law passed. But, as always, there are laws you are happy with, and others you may not be so pleased about. For once, the government did something to my liking. I don't smoke, hence, I like this law. I put up with the cigarette smoke ever since I've been going to bars and clubs (almost 14 years). Now it's time for the smokers to suffer, just as I have. You get no sympathy from me.

I'm not a smoker.

pwned!

All I know is that I'm going to enjoy going out with my friends (which I know is a foreign concept to most of you here) and breathing nice fresh air, not coming home smelling like I work at the Marlboro factory, while I see the smokers freezing their asses off outside.

I might take smoking back up just to hang outside these bars and make sure you get a nice big whiff of it when you enter and leave.

Please do, that way you'll get lung cancer that much faster and we won't have to put up with your trolling anymore.

And maybe you can get a clue instead of assuming everybody that is against government intrusion is a smoker, retard.

 

[Electric Amish]

This sucks.

I'm not a smoker. Never have been. I really don't agree with the government making these kind of laws.

The slope will just get slippery-er.