Smoke yourself to death.

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: Xenon14

Then dont hang around smokers

n0cmonkey, Just how naive are you? Perhaps you don't get out much or you live in some desolated location, but you don't need to "hang out" with smokers to be around smokers. Surely you've been to a resteraunt at least once in your life. And don't give me that nonsense about sitting in a non-smoking section. A non-smoking section in a resteraunt is like a non-pissing section in a pool.

You are a moron. Many restaurants are smoke free now, and pool halls, play during the day if you don't want to be around smoke, it is a compromise you have to make, smokers are giving up smoking in many buildings, and you have to deal with them where they are permitted to smoke, they are not infringing on your rights any more than you are on theirs

 

[Corn]

....as a bleeding heart liberal, I simply cry myself to sleep with self pity.

Heh, ain't that the truth.



Glad you don't waste money on cold remedies, but you may be doing yourself a disservice by avoiding them if you are *really* sick. As a smoker, I was particularly susceptable to bronchitis--got it nasty bad 3-4 times per year. Anyway, Nyquil is basically a shot of Jack with a couple asprin mixed in for taste. When you're weak from being sick, you really need to sleep--especially if your illness is keeping you awake (there's no feeling quite like you've tried to swallow a burning hot charcoal briquette and having it get stuck in your throat to make it difficult to sleep). Anyway, it worked for me. Besides, since I quit smoking 4 years ago, I haven't had bronchitis, or the need for nyquil.

....and part of that "personal responsibiltiy" factor is using the tools you have at your disposal. No irony there, I took responsibility for myself and did something to change my behavior.

And if you look at the compuwiz Michael exchange I hope it will give you some insight into why I prefer the route of compassion, the no blame, road to smoking and quitting. One form of self indulgent, self richeous contempt brings up the other. The contemptuous non smoker just lights up the smokers cigarette. Of course you won't let me get away with blaming the non smoker for the smoker's smoking, but I'm not talking about how I think. I'm talking about the kinds of opportunities the addict will sieze.

[apology if I'm mis-understanding something]

I don't believe that for a second. Coddling to someones addiction gains them nothing. A non-smoker lighting a smoke for a smoker is not preaching personal responsibility, he's just being an ass, and making a perfect example of a contemptuous boob who thinks he's "smarter" than the smoker he's mocking. Don't confuse that behavior with someone preaching "responsible" behavior, that simply is not the case.

There is no high horse I'm sitting on because I was able change my lifestyle that allowed me to continue to not smoke after I quit. I've said it before and I'll say it again: The reality is simple, some people will quit, some people won't. If quitting *really* meant something to the quitter, the quitter will quit. I played the lip service, "tried" to quit unsuccessfully a couple times, said how I "hated" it and that I knew it was gonna kill me...........all to appease someone who was begging me to quit. All the compassion that person offered me did nothing.

I quit because I was simply tired of smoking and didn't want to do it anymore.

 

[Sketcher]

Originally posted by: Sketcher<br
But this one's free: No one's forcing you to stick that piece of sh*t in your mouth. So those of you who whine about not being able to quit, withdrawal's too difficult - name your poison. It all adds up to willpower and commitment. Either you're weak and lack resolve, or you quit intentionally committing the physical act of buying, unrwapping, lighting and smoking the damn things! Just don't sit there and talk about it. Do the deed, or keep smoking... either way - STFU.... (sorry, having a nic fit ) <--------- joke

-Sketcher

 

[Murphyrulez]

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: Xenon14

Then dont hang around smokers

n0cmonkey, Just how naive are you? Perhaps you don't get out much or you live in some desolated location, but you don't need to "hang out" with smokers to be around smokers. Surely you've been to a resteraunt at least once in your life. And don't give me that nonsense about sitting in a non-smoking section. A non-smoking section in a resteraunt is like a non-pissing section in a pool.

You are a moron. Many restaurants are smoke free now, and pool halls, play during the day if you don't want to be around smoke, it is a compromise you have to make, smokers are giving up smoking in many buildings, and you have to deal with them where they are permitted to smoke, they are not infringing on your rights any more than you are on theirs

What right do you have to blow smoke in my face?

Do I have the right to back my car up to your bedroom window and blow my exhaust in? Why not? Do I have the right to bring a bottle of perfume into a restaurant, and spray it all over everyone inside? Why not?

But it's different when it's your precious smoke, eh?

 

[Bluefront]

Sketcher....Thanks for the story explaining why and how you quit. There have been some great stories in this thread. Maybe someone will use them as a beginning to a new healthier life. How someone can choose cigarettes over life and their family is impossible for me to comprehend.

I never started smoking because I saw the type of death it brought to my family. Later I saw the same type of death brought to many other smokers, many other families. There is no need to die like this. It's not pretty, it's not glorious, you've proven nothing by letting cigarettes kill you. You're making the choice freely...but it's the wrong choice.

 

[Sketcher]

Originally posted by: Bluefront
Sketcher....Thanks for the story explaining why and how you quit. There have been some great stories in this thread. Maybe someone will use them as a beginning to a new healthier life. How someone can choose cigarettes over life and their family is impossible for me to comprehend. (emphasis added)

I never started smoking because I saw the type of death it brought to my family. Later I saw the same type of death brought to many other smokers, many other families. There is no need to die like this. It's not pretty, it's not glorious, you've proven nothing by letting cigarettes kill you. You're making the choice freely...but it's the wrong choice.

Very True,

Thank you

-Sketcher

 

[StageLeft]

She's a RN. She has access to more factual data about health related issues than most you people are cutting and pasting about.

Mrs. skoorb too - she said the percentage of people in the hospital for smoking related illnesses is mind boggling and that she believes anybody who would simply take a walk through through would feel even more inclined to quit.

It's one thing a smoker saying they understand how bad smoking is for them but it's another seeing people at the age of 55 coughing and wheezing only months away from death as lung cancer takes yet another victim.

Quiting is hard but it can't be any harder than saying good bye for your family, not even old enough to see your kids get married because you made one stupid mistake and never got around to repairing it.

 

[Gaard]

Quiting is hard but it can't be any harder than saying good bye for your family, not even old enough to see your kids get married because you made one stupid mistake and never got around to repairing it.

Very powerful words. I can't imagine not being alive to watch my son grow up. To those of you with grown kids, I bet it was probably the greatest thing in the world...to watch them grow up. I can't wait, my kid is only 2 years old and I'm already scoping out school districts...he's getting the best I can give him. I'm so glad I kicked the habit.

 

[Sketcher]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

She's a RN. She has access to more factual data about health related issues than most you people are cutting and pasting about.

Mrs. skoorb too - she said the percentage of people in the hospital for smoking related illnesses is mind boggling and that she believes anybody who would simply take a walk through through would feel even more inclined to quit.

It's one thing a smoker saying they understand how bad smoking is for them but it's another seeing people at the age of 55 coughing and wheezing only months away from death as lung cancer takes yet another victim.

Quiting is hard but it can't be any harder than saying good bye for your family, not even old enough to see your kids get married because you made one stupid mistake and never got around to repairing it.

Exactly Skoorb,

The reality is shown in hospitals and funeral parlors, not in Majestic Mountains and Rodeo scenes. And, it's not just the life of the smoker, but the smoker's family. The loss of a loved one due to selfish irresponsibility...

Originally posted by: Bluefront

lost my own father to smoking, he lost his brother and his father to smoking. None of them could stop until they lost their lives. This guy at work is doing it exactly the same way....I ask again....What does it take to stop smoking? What do you say to smokers, as you watch them kill themselves?

I'm sorry for your loss Bluefront, thank you for posting and expressing a personally important and difficult issue.

But what to say to smokers?... I remember when I smoked. I was invincible, and would quit if I needed to. No matter what family and friends, pamphlets or doctors told me compelled me to quit. I enjoyed it and figured I had plenty of time to quit. But nearly 11 years later, it took the realization of caring for other people more than I cared about myself to finally give it up. I didn't want my kids to grow up without their Dad, or my Wife to attend their graduations without me. And I realized, that if I waited until I thought I NEEDED to quit, it would already be too late.

-Sketcher

 

[Sketcher]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Very powerful words. I can't imagine not being alive to watch my son grow up. To those of you with grown kids, I bet it was probably the greatest thing in the world...to watch them grow up. I can't wait, my kid is only 2 years old and I'm already scoping out school districts...he's getting the best I can give him. I'm so glad I kicked the habit.

Gaard,

Good Job!! 4+ months free after 20 years of habit... That's Awesome! Right there with you with watching the kids grow up. It's a wonderful and promising experience

-Sketcher