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Smoke yourself to death.

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Bluefront

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This guy at work had a heart-attack about four months ago, was off work for two months, now back working. He's about 50, wife, two kids at home. He was a two pack a day smoker. Of course his doctor told him to stop smoking, stop drinking, lose weight...if he wanted to live. Well I didn't see him smoke at work till today.....

There he is in the 2nd floor john, smoking up a storm. It was like walking into a friday night bar. He looked like a shoplifter just caught...."I know I shouldn't be doing this". I just shook my head. "Stupid".

What does it take to stop smoking? This man risks losing his wife, his kids, everything he's ever worked for......all for the sake of a foul-tasting weed that stains your teeth, burns down your house, costs you everything....and finally takes your life.

I lost my own father to smoking, he lost his brother and his father to smoking. None of them could stop until they lost their lives. This guy at work is doing it exactly the same way....I ask again....What does it take to stop smoking? What do you say to smokers, as you watch them kill themselves?
 
a lady that i work with was just recently diagnosed with lung cancer and she had a tube in her back to drain out the fluids. She's been smoking for God-only-knows how long and she went back to smoking about a month and a half after she got out of the hospital. The lady has three very close friends at work whom all said they'd substantially cut back, but not one of them did. It kinda makes you sick watching a friend die and you're not doing anything about it.

-=bmacd=-
 
Thats their right. you can't take it away from them.

And theres alot of people that quit smoking, and alot of people that smoke their whole lives and don't die from it.

Don't make it seem like everyone that smokes will not be able to quit, and will die from it.
 
Remember, they are choosing to do this to themselves. Smoker's know the consequences but they choose to keep puffing away. I don't think there is anything you CAN say to make someone quit.

Ryan
 
Originally posted by: Bluefront
This guy at work had a heart-attack about four months ago, was off work for two months, now back working. He's about 50, wife, two kids at home. He was a two pack a day smoker. Of course his doctor told him to stop smoking, stop drinking, lose weight...if he wanted to live. Well I didn't see him smoke at work till today.....

There he is in the 2nd floor john, smoking up a storm. It was like walking into a friday night bar. He looked like a shoplifter just caught...."I know I shouldn't be doing this". I just shook my head. "Stupid".

What does it take to stop smoking? This man risks losing his wife, his kids, everything he's ever worked for......all for the sake of a foul-tasting weed that stains your teeth, burns down your house, costs you everything....and finally takes your life.

I lost my own father to smoking, he lost his brother and his father to smoking. None of them could stop until they lost their lives. This guy at work is doing it exactly the same way....I ask again....What does it take to stop smoking? What do you say to smokers, as you watch them kill themselves?
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From the tone of your message, i'll assume you've never been a smoker.

Quitting is not as easy as it sounds. When it comes to quitting, talk is cheap. It *IS* a physical addiction after all.
 
Yep, non-smokers just don't understand. Quitting the habit isn't like avoiding that 2nd slice of cheesecake at dinner... and some of us just plain enjoy smoking 🙂
 
Try quitting TV, video games, junk food, caffeine, whateveryourviceis for a few months. Smoking is just one of the more demonized acts of self-destruction.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Yep, non-smokers just don't understand. Quitting the habit isn't like avoiding that 2nd slice of cheesecake at dinner... and some of us just plain enjoy smoking 🙂
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oo.... I'd go into withdrawl if not for that second piece of cheesecake....





😀
 
Try quitting TV, video games, junk food, caffeine, whateveryourviceis for a few months. Smoking is just one of the more demonized acts of self-destruction.
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Maybe, but I guarantee that there isn't any link between TV/video games to any diseases that will severly shorten your life. Plus, it doesn't make you smell or look bad.

My .02

-silver
 
Smoking's a fools pleasure..for fools who are expert at fooling them selves. Look forward to the open position at work in the near future.
 
The notion that people have a choice in whether to quit or not are full of it. Smoking is an addiction. The addict smokes, not the person. The person and the addict are two different individuals. The person says he will quit or not quit, that he chooses or doesn't choose to smoke, but he is not the one making the decisions. He is the one suffering dimentia, the notion that he is in control. But its the addict that is in control, who lights up, who says we have to have a cigarette, who makes the individual forget all about not wanting to smoke. Only when the smoker knows that he has no power, that all his mental ideas about why he smokes and how much he likes it are all complete and total lies told to him by the addict, can he began to muster the reserves to challenge the hideous monster that runs his life. The addict would rather you die than he quit.
 
Smoking - Tumor causeing, teeth staining, smelly puking habit- someone had to say it! Smoking is really sick though. When I went to high school about 80-90% of the students smoked. There really is no good reason for it. My grandpa is at 15% of his total lung capicity. Its painfull to see him gasping for air while sitting perfectly still.
Here is my solution for the smoking population. Let the tobacco companies put WHATEVER they want in the ciggeretes. 3x the poison, chemicals, tar, and all that other good stuff. When people start dying after smoking just one pack maybe they will change their minds about inhaling poison.
 
Moonbeam's little post on smoking and addiction is a crock. It is a example of twisted liberal thinking which wants to transfer blame for some stupid behaviour or action, away from the person and his flaws, and on to a nameless, faceless thing called addiction. "The devil made me do it". "It's not my fault". Bullsh**.

The examples of people who stopped smoking cold-turkey are numerous, the examples of people who just gradually stopped are numerous. It's something you can stop doing....but only if you want to, and only if you are not weak.

Hold up a cigarette......measure that thing against your wife, your kids, all your loved ones, everything else you hold valuable. Is that cigarette more valuable? I don't think so.

I guess what I need to say to that smoker at work is "You're a dumb, useless POS if you continue to smoke after or before a heart-attack, knowing what we know today about cigarette smoking". Addiction.......crap. May as well blame it on the man in the moon(beam).
 
Get him some nicotine patches and sugar free lollipops. The patch takes care of his nicotine addiction and the lollipop gives his hands and mouth something to do.
 
Originally posted by: Bluefront
Moonbeam's little post on smoking and addiction is a crock. It is a example of twisted liberal thinking which wants to transfer blame for some stupid behaviour or action, away from the person and his flaws, and on to a nameless, faceless thing called addiction. "The devil made me do it". "It's not my fault". Bullsh**. The examples of people who stopped smoking cold-turkey are numerous, the examples of people who just gradually stopped are numerous. It's something you can stop doing....but only if you want to, and only if you are not weak. Hold up a cigarette......measure that thing against your wife, your kids, all your loved ones, everything else you hold valuable. Is that cigarette more valuable? I don't think so. I guess what I need to say to that smoker at work is "You're a dumb, useless POS if you continue to smoke after or before a heart-attack, knowing what we know today about cigarette smoking". Addiction.......crap. May as well blame it on the man in the moon(beam).
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Tell that to the crackhead that just broke into your house at 4 in the morning looking for something to pawn for another hit. Nope, that's not the addiction talking, just crap. Blame the break-in on the man on the moon.
 
Originally posted by: Bluefront
Moonbeam's little post on smoking and addiction is a crock. It is a example of twisted liberal thinking which wants to transfer blame for some stupid behaviour or action, away from the person and his flaws, and on to a nameless, faceless thing called addiction. "The devil made me do it". "It's not my fault". Bullsh**.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you have no idea what "liberal" means. Anyway, the very fact that people cannot stop something they know is deadly should affirm the power of addiction. But you are an ignorant fool, so by all means go ahead and just start name calling. I'm sure that will fix things right up.
 
jaeger66, you are quite right about criticizing Bluefront's inclination to name call. Clearly he tries to hide behind the term Liberal counting on the fact that billions have been spent brainwashing the public into thinking it's a bad word so that all you have to do is call someone Liberal and you win the argument. But it doesn't matter. The real problem, though, is in the name calling. Bluefront wants to think he's superior to smokers, more intelligent, stronger, etc. He wants to blame the victom of a diesase of addiction but he does that because he feels bad about himself and needs something to put down to elevate his own inwardly concealed inferiority. But it's not a real inferiority. It's how we all feel and don't want to see. And his intentions are partly right. Instead of understanding the addiction of smoking he hates it. At least he's on the right side of the issue. And hate can cause positive change. Hating smoking enough can cause people to stop. But the problem with hate is that, ultimately, it always leads back to a hatred of the self, one that is hidden. Since we want to cure smoking and the soul too, we don't want to make it a habit to do good through hate since that's the source of soul sickness. There is nothing wrong with anybody except that we wer made to hate ourselves. It was a lie we were made to buy.

The wonderful thing about the fact that it is the addict who smokes, and any smoker can verify this, is that when the addict is starved to death, when his power is weakened by withdrawal, and after time passes and the addict shrinks up into a little nothing, smoking, the thought of smoking, the smell, everything about it, suddenly becomes empty. Without the need, the addiction, cigarettes are just tubes of paper with a shreaded leaf in side, devoid of psychic import. To know how difficult it is to stop smoking were it not for the addict, just ask anybody who doesn't smoke to quit. Then ask if it was hard. Nope, it was as easy as pie. Yea, Bluefront, how hard is it for you to not to light up. Smoke a couple a packs a day for a few months and try again. Compare results.
 
I quit drinking pop and I was seriously addicted to it. I used to drink at least 6 cans of pop plus a two-litera day, usually more. If I didn't have a pop after a day or so I would go through withdrawal, I would get lightheaded and start shacking. May 14th, 1999 was the last day I had pop and I quit cold turkey. If I can quit an addiction anybody should be able to quit.
 
I work at a hospital and it always cracks my ass up to walk by one of the smoking areas outside and see patients out there with IV's in there arm pulling their IV stand and smoking like a freight train.
 
Think about this so-called addiction.....it's not crack, it's not morphine, it's a dumb cigarette, packaged real neat, sold in drug stores to little old ladies and kids. Moonbeam wants you to think after a few weeks on the stuff, you're hooked for life, and the rest of us non-smokers should pity you for your horrible addiction. Crap.....

Well I don't have any pity for stupidity. Years ago before the whole truth about smoking was revealed, people continued to smoke out of habit, not fully knowing the dangers. Not true anymore....you smoke today, you're a fool...or worse.

If I were a liberal, I would probably follow moonbeam's advice.....say you're not at fault for smoking, it's the addiction to blame, maybe the kids you bummed around with who taught you, maybe your parents who smoked and left the things lying around when you were young. Crap again.....

Millions of people have thrown down their cigarettes, never to go back.....some addiction.
 
I'm sure that smoking is difficult but quiting it is just like losing weight (although quite possibly harder); both just take willpower. That is all. Your desire to quit smoking is related to your will to live. Most people never quit because they simply don't care enough to. Unless they don't understand the risks involved when you take somebody who is suffering from a major smoking-related illness at a young age and then they continue to smoke afterwards you simply have the case of their will to live desire not fueling their willpower enough and so they don't quit.

When you have somebody who is 300 pounds plowing food down their throat like it's the last day on earth and they continue to do this fully aware of the health benefits it's the same thing. They just don't care about their life enough. Anybody has the willpower within to stop eating that chocholate bar. Taken one at a time it's pretty easy to fight. It's the long-term commitment and desire to stop the self-harm that some people have and others don't.
 
Smoking is a state-sanctioned suicide, for those who secretly want to die. What you consider a vile, loathesome habit is really a disguised cry for help. Smoking is maintained BECAUSE people understand the health risks, because deep down they want the scary warnings to come true, so they can die.


 
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