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Small Plane Crash into Building in Austin

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Yeah, I'm not sure how you could possibly think this guy is a tea party supporter. It sounds like he's basically a communist.

He sounds at least to me like the average, economically frustrated American, albeit taken to extreme, if you read his whole note. I don't approve of his actions, but I sure can't find fault with his frustrations.
 

techs

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So the guy tried to set up a "church" to use to keep from paying taxes.
The government disallowed it.
Therefore he decided to fly his plane into an irs building.
While blaming General Motors.

Yep. Sounds reasonable to me.:hmm:
 

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Yeah, I'm not sure how you could possibly think this guy is a tea party supporter. It sounds like he's basically a communist.


If by communist you mean he seems to idealize the exact opposite of communism, then yes, I'd agree.

By the way, where's the anal bead information this thread's tags promise?!
 
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waggy

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Where does he once affiliate himself with the tea bagger movement? I just read the whole note and there is no mention of it on there. Not a tea bagger myself, but you have absolutely no evidence to correlate the two. Lots of people hate the IRS.

For those who want to read his suicide note: http://embeddedart.com/


yeah i don't think he is a tea party guy. the suicide note reads as one of those idiots that think tax's are optional and not that we are getting over taxed.
 

Gunslinger08

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If by communist, you mean he seems to idealize the exact opposite of communism, then yes, I'd agree.

He's kind of all over the place. The whole basis for his argument seems to be a double standard between different classes and the need for the lower class to revolt - Marxism.
 

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So the guy tried to set up a "church" to use to keep from paying taxes.
The government disallowed it.
Therefore he decided to fly his plane into an irs building.
While blaming General Motors.

Yep. Sounds reasonable to me.:hmm:

If he had only blamed Chrysler instead
 

Slick5150

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He's kind of all over the place. The whole basis for his argument seems to be a double standard between different classes and the need for the lower class to revolt - Marxism.

Oh I'd agree. His "note" contradicts itself throughout and makes no sense. But he clearly hates government, taxes, and corporate bailouts (which are certainly not things a "communist" would hate).

Labeling the guy anything other than a wacko is just showing one's own stupidity I would say.
 

PottedMeat

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On an unrelated note, what's with the thread tags?

austin plane nsfw nsfw

...i have no idea what you're talking about...


ugh. they are saying he set the house on fire with his wife an ddaughter IN IT.

i heard on the news he had a loud fight with his wife last night, then his wife took his daughter out of the house. later on he set the place on fire and so on.




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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100218...zZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNvZmZpY2lhbHBsYW4-

In a neighborhood about six miles from the crash site, a home listed as belonging to Stack was on fire earlier Thursday. Two law enforcement officials said Stack had apparently set fire to his home before the suicidal plane flight.

Elbert Hutchins, who lives one house away from the house on a quiet, tree-lined middle class neighborhood, said the house caught fire about 9:15 a.m. He said a woman and her teenage daughter drove up to the house before firefighters arrived.

"They both were very, very distraught," said Hutchins, a retiree who said he didn't know the family well. "'That's our house!' they cried 'That's our house!' "
 
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Kalmah

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i heard on the news he had a loud fight with his wife last night, then his wife took his daughter out of the house. later on he set the place on fire and so on.

What a douche. He removed himself from his daughters life for all of this. Nothing is worth fucking up your own childs life.
 

GTaudiophile

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Everyone knows the IRS is the world's biggest farce. It is so big and complex and the professionals themselves cannot come with the same bottom line if given the same data. Has anyone ever called the IRS for help? Only to discover that you know more about the tax code than the idiots answering the phones?
 

Lotheron

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Everyone knows the IRS is the world's biggest farce. It is so big and complex and the professionals themselves cannot come with the same bottom line if given the same data. Has anyone ever called the IRS for help? Only to discover that you know more about the tax code than the idiots answering the phones?

Not a valid reason to take a plane and crash it into a building.
 

clamum

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He's kind of all over the place. The whole basis for his argument seems to be a double standard between different classes and the need for the lower class to revolt - Marxism.
Yeah agreed, to me it didn't seem like there was one specific ideology behind it; it was rambling a bit and I didn't get anything about Tea Party out of it other than they're both angry.
 

coloumb

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Eh - sounds like he just had a lot of bad luck and, like most people, was tired of the rich assholes getting away with "financial murder" while he and just about anyone with a retirement account/stocks are suffering due to their screw ups. It also sounds like he tried non-violent ways to get noticed - but was repeatedly ignored or brushed off.

How else are you going to get noticed in this day and age? You have to do something that'll get the people to notice you [reminds me of the movie Se7en]

In this case, he took his message straight to the IRS in a manner that *would* get noticed [terrible time to crash into a building :( ].

Burning the house down doesn't make sense unless he thought the government would "repo" his house...
 

MrPickins

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What's your fucking problem? You always have a useless comment to say.

So maybe it was not a few years ago, but it did happen:

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/02/business/20-years-for-irs-bombing.html?pagewanted=1

http://www.start.umd.edu/start/data/tops/terrorist_organization_profile.asp?id=3420

I'm pretty sure this what what the /facepalm was aimed at:

Why would people rage at tax time? I enjoy getting my 1-2 grand back. :p

If you're not being sarcastic, that definitely deserves one.
 

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What's your fucking problem? You always have a useless comment to say.

So maybe it was not a few years ago, but it did happen:

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/02/business/20-years-for-irs-bombing.html?pagewanted=1

http://www.start.umd.edu/start/data/tops/terrorist_organization_profile.asp?id=3420

I think he was probably referring to the fact that you like getting a tax refund.

It's a common theme here around tax time - anyone who gets money back is a fool who gave the government an interest-free loan. Nevermind that a savings account would have only netted you about $10 on that money you loaned the government - no one here ever wastes $10.

Yeah, from a mathematical perspective it is clearly better to owe more taxes than to get a refund, but the real fools are the people who don't recognize the psychological factors involved in spending and saving money.
 

ElFenix

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apparently the nutter planted a bomb in his car at the airport.