Small Plane Crash into Building in Austin

[zoiks]

This happened in TX? And no guns were involved? Whoa.

 

[ElFenix]

BreakingNews
Update: Austin bomb squad finds no explosive in suicide pilot's car at airport; investigation continues at office complex - NBC

so no bomb

 

[dmcowen674]

Supposed suicide note

This website has been taken offline in compliance with a request from the FBI

 

[JS80]

This website has been taken offline in compliance with a request from the FBI

what's the point of taking down the site? it's reposted all over the interwebs.

the host probably wanted to save money.

 

[commondreamer]

I live in Austin, and was at Marie Callenders across the street at the time of the attack.

This entire official story does not at all pass the smell test.

Firefighters and police were on the ground 5 to 10 minutes before the plane hit. Dallas FBI was on the scene with in 3 minutes. They arrived in Austin at 6am that morning.

This guy's house burst into flames 12 minutes before the plane hit and there is no evidence that a delayed device was used.

Within 30 minutes of the plane hitting the media has the perpetrators name and his website, very strange.

Now the perpetrators client list is very interesting,

Saturday, February 20, 2010

Joseph Andrew Stack Had 9/11, NSA, and Homeland Security Related Defense Contractor Clients

The client list from the software programmer believed to have crashed his plane into the Echelon* building in Austin Texas reads like a guidebook to defense contractors with connections to 9/11, NSA and Homeland Security.

The FBI had his webpage removed (the screen message previously said that the FBI had it removed) from the internet, but of course the client list from the webpage has been archived. As first discovered by Cryptogon, the client list has corporations on it such as Interstate Electronics Corporation, which needed Mr. Stack's help on developing a GPS-based Fight Management System of all things. IEC is a wholly owned subsidiary of L-3 which is a defence contractor with obvious Homeland Security and NSA connections. There is also this report from Wayne Madsen on Oped News of an L-3 consultant to the NSA who had watched a live feed of the first 9/11 plane impact as it happened. L-3 is included among corporations which were investigated by the SEC for unusual stock put-options in relation to 9/11.
Cylink Corporation, another on Mr. Stack's client list had as it's Chief Executive Officer, William P. Crowell who "came to Cylink from the National Security Agency, where he held a series of senior positions, including Deputy Director of Operations and the Deputy Director of the Agency. From 1989 to 1990, Crowell served as a vice president at Atlantic Aerospace Electronics Corporation, now a subsidiary of Titan Systems, leading business development in space technology, signal processing and intelligence systems."
Hughes Aircraft, one of Stack's clients, developed the ground mission control segment of the Global Hawk. Another Stack client, Teledyne, is the prime contractor for the Global Hawk, and L3 supplied its communications system.
Other clients on the list such as DMC Stratex Networks and Sorrento Electronics also are defense contractors and probably a closer examination of these and other corporations on Stack's client list will reveal more interesting details.

*Note: the name echelon itself refers to a "signals intelligence (SIGINT) collection and analysis network" coordinated by the NSA.

http://memes.org/9-11-and-echelon-key-players-unearthed

 

[commondreamer]

Hmm so his Daughter speaks, but not his wife.....

The connections to spooks is intriguing not to mention the fact that his house went up in flames 18 minutes before the plane hitting.

Hmmm, Yes he did it and yes he was there but I reserve the right to question this story, it does not quite pass the smell test. Something is not right on this after questioning persons at the scene.

And yes I was on there for 18 hours after the

"attack"

Feds were there before and Dallas was called in the night before, not sure what that means but is does not sound normal.

 

[techs]

Hmm so his Daughter speaks, but not his wife.....

The connections to spooks is intriguing not to mention the fact that his house went up in flames 18 minutes before the plane hitting.

Hmmm, Yes he did it and yes he was there but I reserve the right to question this story, it does not quite pass the smell test. Something is not right on this after questioning persons at the scene.

I figured it out.
It was hard to see flying the plane in his tin foil hat.

 

[commondreamer]

I figured it out.
It was hard to see flying the plane in his tin foil hat.

So on my first day here you insult me?

I simply posed a question and you insult someone you do not know.

Very Very Noble indeed, you are a true scientist. Brainiacs incorporated.

This Forum may be less about truth of science and more about politics, am I correct??

And by the way Brainiac, what part of my post do you disagree with?? tell me exactly, line by line

I must say that seeing this from someone that has posted 13k times I am disappointed,

 

[LegendKiller]

So on my first day here you insult me?

I simply posed a question and you insult someone you do not know.

Very Very Noble indeed, you are a true scientist. Brainiacs incorporated.

This Forum may be less about truth of science and more about politics, am I correct??

And by the way Brainiac, what part of my post do you disagree with?? tell me exactly, line by line

I must say that seeing this from someone that has posted 13k times I am disappointed,

No, it's about the insanity of some of its posters. Please, go away with your trash.

 

[commondreamer]

No, it's about the insanity of some of its posters. Please, go away with your trash.

Ok then please tell me how I should think and post and how I should respond to such idiotic responses as yours.

Let me know what thoughts should go through my mind. Tell me how to think. Can you do that??

Your very basis is that no one should ever ever question authority, am I correct??

The English/ Britons enslaved many including us or do you disagree,

We have the right to disagree and to question, or are you a Communist?


This country was founded on this very idea. So no, you go away, get lost or what ever, This place is quite intriguing as to that those that post do not want any questions asked about anything, WOW, as a Scientist I can say that this is by far the most ridiculous place I have every found.

 

[LegendKiller]

Ok then please tell me how I should think and post and how I should respond to such idiotic responses as yours.

Let me know what thoughts should go through my mind. Tell me how to think. Can you do that??

Your very basis is that no one should ever ever question authority, am I correct??

The English/ Britons enslaved many including us or do you disagree,

We have the right to disagree and to question, or are you a Communist?


This country was founded on this very idea. So no, you go away, get lost or what ever, This place is quite intriguing as to that those that post do not want any questions asked about anything, WOW, as a Scientist I can say that this is by far the most ridiculous place I have every found.

I love how you think that you have the right to speak but I don't have the right to disagree.

This is where morons like you get your whackjob ideas. I wasn't advocating the government squelching your speech, I was advocating you're a fucking crazy assclown. Freedom of speech isn't about my belief, it is about government preventing you from voicing yours AND mine.

Additionally, you're taking blogs and posting them as fact then spinning yarn. The blogs provide no actual proof, just bullshit. Lastly, you claim you were there but provide no backup. I'm supposed to believe you on face value?

Additionally, you go on to claim that people were there *before* the attack and various other events but STILL provide no info. If this was some sort of nefarious plan, as you claim, wouldn't this massively competent shadow government be able to synchronize their watches? Oh wait, they are competent enough to plan a huge coverup but not enough to keep you in the dark? That's because you're so much smarter than anybody else as are the rest of the blogs.

Sure thing there chucklehead.

 

[commondreamer]

I love how you think that you have the right to speak but I don't have the right to disagree.

This is where morons like you get your whackjob ideas. I wasn't advocating the government squelching your speech, I was advocating you're a fucking crazy assclown. Freedom of speech isn't about my belief, it is about government preventing you from voicing yours AND mine.

Additionally, you're taking blogs and posting them as fact then spinning yarn. The blogs provide no actual proof, just bullshit. Lastly, you claim you were there but provide no backup. I'm supposed to believe you on face value?

Sure thing there chucklehead.

No "AssClown" I was there and saw this I live there, you get it??

This forum allows personal attacks on others because others wish to control their postings, is not a good place, and the mods allow it

you call me an "AssClown" Wow that explains it all

Explain exactly what part of any posting exactly that you disagree with, word by word, give it to me.....

Can you do that or do you just do personal attacks, is that what this site is all about?

Tell me what you do not agree with Einstein. Can you understand that.

Can you do that?????

 

[LegendKiller]

No "AssClown" I was there and saw this I live there, you get it??

This forum allows personal attacks on others because others wish to control their postings, is not a good place, and the mods allow it

you call me an "AssClown" Wow that explains it all

Explain exactly what part of any posting exactly that you disagree with, word by word, give it to me.....

Can you do that or do you just do personal attacks, is that what this site is all about?

Tell me what you do not agree with Einstein. Can you understand that.

Can you do that?????

Blah blah blah. Quit being a whiny bitch and answer my questions. However, I expect no proof. So please, disappoint me.

Next thing you're going to tell me is this coward was a patriot.

Go troll with your tinfoil hat shit elsewhere.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I live in Austin, and was at Marie Callenders across the street at the time of the attack.

This entire official story does not at all pass the smell test.

Firefighters and police were on the ground 5 to 10 minutes before the plane hit. Dallas FBI was on the scene with in 3 minutes. They arrived in Austin at 6am that morning.

This guy's house burst into flames 12 minutes before the plane hit and there is no evidence that a delayed device was used.

Within 30 minutes of the plane hitting the media has the perpetrators name and his website, very strange.

Now the perpetrators client list is very interesting,


http://memes.org/9-11-and-echelon-key-players-unearthed

Wow. So, you created an account and decided to post in this thread that you were there and that this was a gov't conspiracy?

Do you have any ACTUAL proof? Any photos of the firefighters and police there before the crash?

I'm guessing b/c you believe in 9/11 any attack on a gov't building is a gov't conspiracy.

 

[Miramonti]

Hmm so his Daughter speaks, but not his wife.....

The connections to spooks is intriguing not to mention the fact that his house went up in flames 18 minutes before the plane hitting.

Hmmm, Yes he did it and yes he was there but I reserve the right to question this story, it does not quite pass the smell test. Something is not right on this after questioning persons at the scene.

And yes I was on there for 18 hours after the

"attack"

Feds were there before and Dallas was called in the night before, not sure what that means but is does not sound normal.

You're first post leads to a pissing contest with one of the more cantankerous members on the board...you'll learn to choose your battles.

wwybywb

 

[LegendKiller]

Wow. So, you created an account and decided to post in this thread that you were there and that this was a gov't conspiracy?

Do you have any ACTUAL proof? Any photos of the firefighters and police there before the crash?

I'm guessing b/c you believe in 9/11 any attack on a gov't building is a gov't conspiracy.

He doesn't need proof, he has...BLOGS! Hah, got ya there. Incontrovertible proof!

Isn't it amazing when one of these trolls starts to run to many websites to post this trash? It gives you a warm feeling inside that the drug companies still have untapped markets for psychotics.

 

[LegendKiller]

You're first post leads to a pissing contest with one of the more cantankerous members on the board...you'll learn to choose your battles.

wwybywb

Ohhh come on now, I'm a warm fuzzy guy. I'm never blunt with anybody.

In fact, I even apologized to Engineer in a thread about this very same subject.

 

[commondreamer]

Blah blah blah. Quit being a whiny bitch and answer my questions. However, I expect no proof. So please, disappoint me.

Next thing you're going to tell me is this coward was a patriot.

Go troll with your tinfoil hat shit elsewhere.

Blah Blah Blah


Blah, ok what is not correct, give it to me you are the man,

Tell me what was not correct, ......

you cannot

 

[LegendKiller]

Blah Blah Blah


Blah, ok what is not correct, give it to me you are the man,

Tell me what was not correct, ......

you cannot

Yet you still cannot answer a question.

This is how we all know you're wrong. You cannot provide ONE shred of evidence. Nothing.

If this is how you win debates you must converse with a blow-up doll in a room full of mirrors.

 

[Miramonti]

Ohhh come on now, I'm a warm fuzzy guy. I'm never blunt with anybody.

In fact, I even apologized to Engineer in a thread about this very same subject.

Now I feel bad for missing such a defining moment. :beer:

 

[LegendKiller]

Now I feel bad for missing such a defining moment. :beer:

Yes, it will be something I'll cherish forever.

I wept for days afterward.

 

[commondreamer]

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[Slick5150]

So what is other username that commondreamer usually posts under?

 

[commondreamer]

So what is other username that commondreamer usually posts under?

so tell me

 

[Slick5150]

so tell me

Uh, I don't know. I was asking a question. That's what the ? symbol signifies at the end of the sentence. it's quite handy.