Skylake vs A10 AMD

[VirtualLarry]

You haven't supplied any evidence for this load usage. Most likely because you already know its so minimalistic that it can barely be counted.

I may only have 360mbit internet, but even downloading at full speed gives me pretty much 0 CPU usage over AC wifi with firewall on. Same goes for a bunch of edge tabs.

But again, I dont use an AMD CPU. So it may peak on those

On an Atom Z3735F-based Compute Stick, downloading (75Mbit/sec internet), takes a whole CPU core to itself.

Your Meegopad stick?

eMMC storage and realtek wifi?

Yes. It's woefully underpowered.

 

[ShintaiDK]

On an Atom Z3735F-based Compute Stick, downloading (75Mbit/sec internet), takes a whole CPU core to itself.

Your Meegopad stick?

eMMC storage and realtek wifi?

 

[frozentundra123456]

IST to discredit benchmarks they are not Intel favored.

People they dont Multi-Task because they cant, if they could they would do it as well.

Multi-Tasking people do,

1: Gaming + Recording
2: Rendering + Gaming
3: Movie Editing (Finalizing) + Gaming
4: Video encoding + Gaming

Just because Core i3 and Core i5 users cannot do those workloads, doesnt mean anyone else doesnt do it as well.

And before you say anything, im not talking playing BF4 MP 64 player maps but something like playing a racing simulator or a turn-based game like Civilization etc.

In my circle of family, friends, and work associates, maybe 25 to 30 people, none of them record gaming,or do any of those other tasks, alone or in combination with gaming. Even if one does this, these tasks except for recording gaming could more logically be done overnight or while one is at work and the computer would otherwise be idle. Even game recording can now be offloaded to the gpu. Even then, I very seriously doubt your casual, undocumented statement that one cannot perform those tasks simultaneously on even a modern i3, or certainly on an i5,

 

[AtenRa]

People multitask all the time. You just have to setup some obscure situation to try and sell your AMD CPUs. Its funny you always get stuck in some sub 1% niche.

Im selling my Intel CPUs as well, you know the Core i7 and 6-8 Cores Socket 2011-v3. But you are not one of those users, so you dont know the difference 8 vs 4 cores can do in Multi-Tasking.

And i dont believe anyone here said that the majority of the consumer doing something like that. But those who can they actually put their systems to the test.

 

[Teabaghead]

i3 looks very good to be honest. Some really good reviews on the CPU

 

[frozentundra123456]

Im selling my Intel CPUs as well, you know the Core i7 and 6-8 Cores Socket 2011-v3. But you are not one of those users, so you dont know the difference 8 vs 4 cores can do in Multi-Tasking.

And i dont believe anyone here said that the majority of the consumer doing something like that. But those who can they actually put their systems to the test.

Yea, and those that do must be switching to AMD because intel is so bad at multitasking, hence AMD's rapidly growing market share.

 

[AtenRa]

Even if one does this, these tasks except for recording gaming could more logically be done overnight or while one is at work and the computer would otherwise be idle.

You will use more energy doing those two works one at a time and the system will be left open for more time spending even more energy than doing both at once and close the PC before you go to bed.

Even then, I very seriously doubt your casual, undocumented statement that one cannot perform those tasks simultaneously on even a modern i3, or certainly on an i5,

I have actually tested the Core i3 Skylake and some older Core i5 running x265 and trying to play Formula 1 2015 at the same time. Although i had high fps, the game was unplayable due to lagging controls. I couldn't even keep the car in the straight. Everytime i was making a small coarse correction, the car responded 1-2 secs later making it impossible to drive it.
Try it with your Core i5, the high latency you will get makes any game (perhaps turn-based games will be better havent tried Civ) unplayable.

 

[AtenRa]

Yea, and those that do must be switching to AMD because intel is so bad at multitasking, hence AMD's rapidly growing market share.

Your words not mine, i simple told you my experience with Core i3s and Core i5s.

 

[Teabaghead]

AMD APU is proven to be better at gaming, yes?

 

[ShintaiDK]

AMD APU is proven to be better at gaming, yes?

Only with IGP. Not with discrete cards.

 

[krumme]

AMD APU is proven to be better at gaming, yes?

If you use the integrated gpu; yes - and by a long stretch.

 

[Teabaghead]

Only with IGP. Not with discrete cards.

That is what i was saying

 

[Abwx]

I may only have 360mbit internet, but even downloading at full speed gives me pretty much 0 CPU usage over AC wifi with firewall on. Same goes for a bunch of edge tabs.

But again, I dont use an AMD CPU. So it may peak on those

So you re speaking out of thin air, if you dont own one how do you know how it work...

As for me i m using an Intel CPU....

 

[frozentundra123456]

That is what i was saying

Yea, gaming on an AMD APU vs intel is like bringing a bigger knife to a gunfight.

 

[CHADBOGA]

As for me i m using an Intel CPU....

Yet try to dupe other people into buying AMD cpu's.

 

[Abwx]

Yet try to dupe other people into buying AMD cpu's.

I wish i had AMD laptop instead, it s just that i got this C2D at dirt cheap price, i almost hope that it break so i have an excuse to get a newer one...

 

[Blue_Max]

If you check the benchmarks, the i3-6300's "530" graphics are right up there with the AMD... sometimes better!

Go the Intel route and don't look back - you won't be missing anything!


...with only ONE possible exception. The AMD APU route would allow you to pick up a cheap used Radeon R7 240 or 250 (and no other, not the 250x, etc.) and use hybrid crossfire to increase gaming speed.

That's the ONLY saving grace here - and that's only when it works right. A single Radeon R7 260 will outperform the combination anyway, and the CPU processing power of the i3 just dwarfs the AMD APU.

 

[Phynaz]

I wish i had AMD laptop instead, it s just that i got this C2D at dirt cheap price, i almost hope that it break so i have an excuse to get a newer one...

Lol, using a decade old system and telling what people should buy today. You have no experience besides trying a friends computer using any of the products you write about.

You have the credibility of a macaw - just repeating what you hear because it makes you feel good.

 

[AtenRa]

Lol, using a decade old system and telling what people should buy today. You have no experience besides trying a friends computer using any of the products you write about.

You have the credibility of a macaw - just repeating what you hear because it makes you feel good.

So, 99% of AT users have the credibility of a macaw because they dont use the latest hardware from both AMD and Intel.

Nice to hear.

 

[AtenRa]

If you check the benchmarks, the i3-6300's "530" graphics are right up there with the AMD... sometimes better!

Go the Intel route and don't look back - you won't be missing anything!

Core i3 6300 HD530 ($155) is slower even than A8-7600($90), an A8-7650K at $99 with a iGPU OC to 900MHz will be more than 50% faster in the vast majority of games.

 

[LTC8K6]

Core i3 6300 HD530 ($155) is slower even than A8-7600($90), an A8-7650K at $99 with a iGPU OC to 900MHz will be more than 50% faster in the vast majority of games.

They seem to be pretty close to each other when given fast memory?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/skylake-intel-core-i7-6700k-core-i5-6600k,4252-9.html

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Proces...irst-Enthusiasts/Integrated-Graphics-Performa

 

[AtenRa]

They seem to be pretty close to each other when given fast memory?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/skylake-intel-core-i7-6700k-core-i5-6600k,4252-9.html

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Proces...irst-Enthusiasts/Integrated-Graphics-Performa

PCper date of the Review = August 5th 2015

AMD Catalyst 14.12
DDR-3 1600MHz
DDR-4 2133MHz

And Core i3 6300 with DDR-3 1866MHz 9-9-9, Win 10 Pro 64bit

Bioshock Infinity 1080p Low
min = 12,67
avg = 25,35fps

And now A10-7850K with DDR-3 2133MHz and Catalyst 14.12

And Core i3 6300 with DDR-3 1866MHz 9-9-9, Win 10 Pro 64bit

Metro Last Light Redux 1080p Low
min = 7,85
avg = 20,23fps

And now A10-7850K with DDR-3 2133MHz and Catalyst 14.12

And all that with AMDs one year old drivers.

 

[jhu]

PCper date of the Review = August 5th 2015

AMD Catalyst 14.12
DDR-3 1600MHz
DDR-4 2133MHz

And Core i3 6300 with DDR-3 1866MHz 9-9-9, Win 10 Pro 64bit

Bioshock Infinity 1080p Low
min = 12,67
avg = 25,35fps

And now A10-7850K with DDR-3 2133MHz and Catalyst 14.12

And Core i3 6300 with DDR-3 1866MHz 9-9-9, Win 10 Pro 64bit

Metro Last Light Redux 1080p Low
min = 7,85
avg = 20,23fps

And now A10-7850K with DDR-3 2133MHz and Catalyst 14.12

And all that with AMDs one year old drivers.

Essentially mostly unplayable without a discrete GPU.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Exactly. These arguments about gaming on a desktop igpu just want to make my head explode. Just add a freaking dgpu. It is so obvious.

 

[Teabaghead]

Not everyone wants a dedicated GPU!