Skylake vs A10 AMD

[bystander36]

Thanks people.

Very confused now! lol

I cannot afford an i5 so its either the AMD or the i3. If i cannot afford a dedicated GPU early next year am i going to be disappointed in an i3?

How long do you plan to use this CPU setup?

 

[frozentundra123456]

The i3 has far faster single threaded cpu performance and equal or somewhat better multithreaded cpu performance in most tasks. I would pick it for general use or for gaming with a dedicated gpu.

The only reason I would pick the A10 is to game on the igpu. It will be better than the i3, although intel has improved their igpus a lot lately. The problem with gaming on any igpu is that it is not really adequate in modern, demanding games except at lower resolutions and image quality settings. And if you decide later to add a dgpu, you are negating the best part of the A10, the igpu.

Coming from a netbook though, I am sure you would be satisfied with either cpu.

 

[alexruiz]

The A10 is a better multitasker.
Get the A10.
Pair it with DDR3-2133 or 2400 (almost the same price as DDR-1600 right now) and an SSD and you got a mahcine that will feel fast and smooth.
I wouldn't pick the A10-7870K, I would pick the A10-7850K instead.

 

[Teabaghead]

How long do you plan to use this CPU setup?

Until i win the lottery! lol

 

[Teabaghead]

The A10 is a better multitasker.
Get the A10.
Pair it with DDR3-2133 or 2400 (almost the same price as DDR-1600 right now) and an SSD and you got a mahcine that will feel fast and smooth.
I wouldn't pick the A10-7870K, I would pick the A10-7850K instead.

The 7870K is superior though?

 

[ShintaiDK]

The 7870K is superior though?

No. The i3 6100 will be faster than the Haswell in this compare:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1497?vs=1197

As said, its not even a competition. Pick the i3.

For gaming with a discrete GPU. The 7870K collapses completely compared to the i3.

 

[Teabaghead]

No. The i3 6100 will be faster than the Haswell in this compare:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1497?vs=1197

As said, its not even a competition. Pick the i3.

For gaming with a discrete GPU. The 7870K collapses completely compared to the i3.

Sorry, i was replying to the post above stating the guy would choose the 7850K over the 7870K

 

[Teabaghead]

No. The i3 6100 will be faster than the Haswell in this compare:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1497?vs=1197

As said, its not even a competition. Pick the i3.

Plus, what if i cannot get a dedicated GPU for several months, you would still advise the i3 over the A10?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Plus, what if i cannot get a dedicated GPU for several months, you would still advise the i3 over the A10?

Yes. The A10 is dead end.

No reason to buy obsolete slow technology. With the i3 you got an upgrade path if needed and better platform. Plus its 51W vs 95W on top.

 

[Teabaghead]

Yes. The A10 is dead end.

No reason to buy obsolete slow technology.

Waw! Is it really slow? I thought 3.9 and Quad core would be fast?

 

[SPBHM]

I was asking why is the 6100 better than the 6300?

because it's cheaper and the performance difference will be almost impossible to notice, cheapest i3 is normally the one to buy.


also, if you are going to use the IGP consider memory, are you going to run fast dual channel ram? and will the Skylake memory limitation add to the cost (DDR4 or DDR3L)? what about the motherboards? can you get a cheaper one with which CPU?

if you are going to do any gaming I would consider a Celeron + gtx 750 or something.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Waw! Is it really slow? I thought 3.9 and Quad core would be fast?

It means nothing if it cant perform.

8 cores and 4.7Ghz is also supposed to be fast. But its the laughing stock of the industry.

There is an i3 6100 gaming review here:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2452438

 

[Teabaghead]

because it's cheaper and the performance difference will be almost impossible to notice, cheapest i3 is normally the one to buy.


also, if you are going to use the IGP consider memory, are you going to run fast dual channel ram? and will the Skylake memory limitation add to the cost (DDR4 or DDR3L)? what about the motherboards? can you get a cheaper one with which CPU?

if you are going to do any gaming I would consider a Celeron + gtx 750 or something.

Fast ram is needed by the AMD and the Skylake

 

[krumme]

Its very simple.
For all except gaming subjective perf will be the same. A ssd is what matters for everyday performance.
If you want to do some casual gaming now go amd. Its far better here especially the drivers.
If you want to upgrade with eg 960 or the like in 2 months go Intel. But then you might as well get better system now.
If power usage is not a concern your usecase is perfect for the amd solution because its good for light casual gaming.
If this is not an apu situation i dont know what can be then.
At least we dont hear the usual i5 4 core stuff. Recommended for everyone.

 

[SPBHM]

Fast ram is needed by the AMD and the Skylake

FM2+ can run more common DDR3 1.5v without being out of the official specs.

if you use discrete graphics like a 750 you can ignore the difference and go with the cheapest possible ram without a significant penalty to game performance (considering we are not talking about fast VGAs and CPUs anyway) while using the IGP the impact on performance is very direct, obvious...

and IGPs are to slow for gaming, a 750 destroys even Iris Pro, no hope for the other IGPs.

 

[happy medium]

Much faster CPU, good enough iGPU for casual games, better upgrade path. No upgrade path in the AMD platform, there's a new socket launching next year with DDR4 support, you will be left behind.

Blue ..........the reason I bought a i3 6100
red ....reason I didn't buy AMD

 

[Teabaghead]

i5 is out of my budget.

I not had a dedicated gpu for years!

I have an SSD ready to use in the build.

 

[Teabaghead]

Blue ..........the reason I bought a i3 6100
red ....reason I didn't buy AMD

But you have a dedicated gpu

 

[happy medium]

But you have a dedicated gpu

because I play the latest games, for light gaming I would have not bought the gtx960

 

[Teabaghead]

FM2+ can run more common DDR3 1.5v without being out of the official specs.

if you use discrete graphics like a 750 you can ignore the difference and go with the cheapest possible ram without a significant penalty to game performance (considering we are not talking about fast VGAs and CPUs anyway) while using the IGP the impact on performance is very direct, obvious...

and IGPs are to slow for gaming, a 750 destroys even Iris Pro, not hope for the other IGPs.

IGPs are not too slow for gaming! Check out some of the youtube reviews!

 

[Teabaghead]

because I play the latest games

Ok, so you are saying the 6100 would be fine for casual gaming, on low settings?

Plus, the 6100 would beat the A10 at everything else even though it is only a dual core?

 

[happy medium]

Ok, so you are saying the 6100 would be fine for casual gaming, on low settings?

yes

 

[Teabaghead]

yes

Thanks

 

[happy medium]

the A10

its a dead end platform. Nothing to upgrade to, do you hear what we are telling you?

 

[happy medium]

Thanks

No problem ,,,and buy the 6100 its really no difference from the 6300 except the price.