Single Payer Health Care NOW! Pass Teddy-Care.

[Harvey]

I wrote mine:

Dear Senator,

In memory of Ted Kennedy, please pass a single payer health care bill. Name it Teddy-Care or Tedi-care.

You need Republicans like a fish needs a pogo stick. To hell with bloated insurance company execs and their mega-buck bonuses and golden parachutes.

You have your single payer health care. Please honor the memory of Ted Kennedy, and pass "Teddy-Care" to grant the same right to the citizens of the United States of America.

Sincerely,

Harvey Rubens

Maybe we can use Ted Kennedy's passing to inspire our all too reluctant Congressional representatives to represent US, for a change.

 

[lupi]

and this ladies and gentlemen is the problem with current US politics.

 

[bamacre]

Yeah, that'll help sell health care reform, call it Teddy-Care.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: lupi
and this ladies and gentlemen is the problem with current US politics.

:thumbsup: Exactly.

 

[totalnoob]

facepalm

 

[LunarRay]

I like the ring to that... "Teddy-Care"... makes one feel comfortable..

I've written to my Congressman and both Senators urging them to find the means to provide health care to all Americans but to do it right.. I'll now addendum to that to name it Teddy-Care... yeah...

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: LunarRay
I like the ring to that... "Teddy-Care"... makes one feel comfortable..

I've written to my Congressman and both Senators urging them to find the means to provide health care to all Americans but to do it right.. I'll now addendum to that to name it Teddy-Care... yeah...

Folks, it looks like LunarRay gets it in this case.:thumbsup: Don't pass anything for the sake of passing SOMETHING; pass something because it is the right plan to pass.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: LunarRay

I like the ring to that... "Teddy-Care"... makes one feel comfortable..

I've written to my Congressman and both Senators urging them to find the means to provide health care to all Americans but to do it right.. I'll now addendum to that to name it Teddy-Care... yeah...

Folks, it looks like LunarRay gets it in this case.:thumbsup: Don't pass anything for the sake of passing SOMETHING; pass something because it is the right plan to pass.

We agree. :beer: :thumbsup:

 

[dali71]

Originally posted by: Harvey
I wrote mine:

Dear Senator, In memory of Ted Kennedy, please pass a single payer health care bill. Name it Teddy-Care or Tedi-care. You need Republicans like a fish needs a pogo stick. To hell with bloated insurance company execs and their mega-buck bonuses and golden parachutes. You have your single payer health care. Please honor the memory of Ted Kennedy, and pass "Teddy-Care" to grant the same right to the citizens of the United States of America. Sincerely, Harvey Rubens

Maybe we can use Ted Kennedy's passing to inspire our all too reluctant Congressional representatives to represent US, for a change.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit :disgust:

 

[fallout man]

Harvey, I disagree.

The best thing that can be done is to wrap "socialist" single-payer government healthcare in the U.S. flag. The 'ol glory.

Let's call it "Patriot Care," or "Freedom Health Act," or even "The Towelheads Will Hate Us For Our Healthcare Freedom Act."

How 'bout it?

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: LunarRay
I like the ring to that... "Teddy-Care"... makes one feel comfortable..

I've written to my Congressman and both Senators urging them to find the means to provide health care to all Americans but to do it right.. I'll now addendum to that to name it Teddy-Care... yeah...

Folks, it looks like LunarRay gets it in this case.:thumbsup: Don't pass anything for the sake of passing SOMETHING; pass something because it is the right plan to pass.

I don't have a health care issue at all for me and mine... I've the Naval Hospital and the VA... and the one in La Jolla (VA) treats me like I'm royalty... I'd only wish every one of you and the folks everywhere in the US could receive the same... well... without the collateral bit that enables it...

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: dali71
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit :disgust:

Sorry, but your insurer reports that's a pre-existing condition with you.
























Oh, not the political puke you habitually carry around in your mouth, for that they have a 12 big chunk deductible. But your stupidity, it's definitely a pre-existing condition, apparently there's years and years of incontrovertible evidence for that.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Originally posted by: lupi
and this ladies and gentlemen is the problem with current US politics.

Quote of the day.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: LunarRay

I like the ring to that... "Teddy-Care"... makes one feel comfortable..

I've written to my Congressman and both Senators urging them to find the means to provide health care to all Americans but to do it right.. I'll now addendum to that to name it Teddy-Care... yeah...

Folks, it looks like LunarRay gets it in this case.:thumbsup: Don't pass anything for the sake of passing SOMETHING; pass something because it is the right plan to pass.

We agree. :beer: :thumbsup:

I'm glad we agree that the right plan needs to be passed; we probably just disagree on what the right plan would entail. That's another thread, though.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: fallout man
Harvey, I disagree.

The best thing that can be done is to wrap "socialist" single-payer government healthcare in the U.S. flag. The 'ol glory.

Let's call it "Patriot Care," or "Freedom Health Act," or even "The Towelheads Will Hate Us For Our Healthcare Freedom Act."

How 'bout it?

I prefer HR 676 over HR 3200... I think Conyers has it right... or about right. But at the end of the day I think all folks should have health care. Making HR 676 applicable to only not for profit or public is good...
I presume you know what Harvey was saying... it is an alternative to HR3200.. perhaps you don't see Teddy-Care as an emotional motivator ... I think it is...

 

[ProfJohn]

So you want the same people who gave us the following to be 100% in charge of healthcare?

VA problems.
More botched cancer treatment cases at Philadelphia's VA hospital

Miami Man to Sue VA Hospital for HIV

Another VA Blunder: Patients Mistakenly Told They Had ALS

Soldiers Face Neglect, Frustration At Army's Top Medical Facility

Medicare problems
Medicare Money Problems Trigger Warning

Dozens arrested in Medicare fraud busts across US

Blatant Medicare fraud costs taxpayers billions"organized and lucrative schemes to bilk Medicare out of an estimated $60 billion dollars a year"

Education
SAT Scores Fall as Gap Widens; Asians Gain "Many observers Tuesday viewed the flat results of recent years as discouraging in light of a more than 25-year effort to improve U.S. education"

10 Facts About K-12 Education Funding-On a per-pupil basis and adjusted for inflation, public school funding increased: 24 percent from 1991-92 through 2001-02

Fraud, waste and overspending.
Big Dig's red ink engulfs state. Cost spirals to $22b; crushing debt sidetracks other work, pushes agency toward insolvency Will cost nearly 4 times its original estimate.

Cost overruns have military facing 'train wreck,' McCain says Cost of 95 major weapons systems have ballooned by 30 percent

Top 10 Examples of Government Waste I counted about $60 billion in waste per year.

Finally... look at the mess in Massachusetts
Mass. Health Care Reform Reveals Doctor Shortage
The Massachusetts Health Mess
Massachusetts Universal Health Care Cuts Facing a massive budget shortfall, lawmakers are cutting roughly 30 thousand legal, taxpaying immigrants out of the state subsidized Commonwealth Care program
Healthcare reform ? is Massachusetts proof that it can work, or proof that it doesn?t? Now a new study provides data that shows Massachusetts universal healthcare plan costs rose %40 since 2003, compared to the national average for the private sector which only rose 33% in the same period.

With our government's track record I am not very confident they can pull this off without totally screwing it up. If you don't believe me make a trip to the local DMV and see how long you have to wait in line.

 

[Craig234]

I was thinking the same thing, Harvey. The vicil rights bill - perhaps the bill we can be most proud of in the last 75 years - was helped to pass in honor of John Kennedy.

Ted fought for UHC for many years and I think it'd be good if the nonsensical things in the way of it, like the excessive clout of the insurance industry, were pushed aside.

However, the politics are a bit different with Ted Kennedy. While I think he may have been our greates senator in a long time, he was a polarizing figure nationally.

He wasn't president, and the same national consensus isn't there the way it was for his brother. But that doesn't mean it can't be something that many Senators remember, and that it can't rededicate them to the cause of trying to find a good bill to pass, instead of letting it get delayed and destroyed. It would be a good way to honor him, IMO.

And some on the right may not be aware that many Republican Senators thought highly of him as well, whatever they said for political pandering to their constituents.

It's not about 'pass something you wouldn't pass for Ted', it's about considering the importance of the issue he fought for to cut through the political crap.

 

[ProfJohn]

So... the best way to honor Ted Kennedy is to create a healthcare system that he would have never used for himself... makes sense to me :roll:

 

[Bateluer]

I've already written my congressmen, urging them to combat the government takeover of the health care system, but I think I'll write them again.

 

[glenn1]

Originally posted by: Harvey
I wrote mine:

Dear Senator,

In memory of Ted Kennedy, please pass a single payer health care bill. Name it Teddy-Care or Tedi-care.

You need Republicans like a fish needs a pogo stick. To hell with bloated insurance company execs and their mega-buck bonuses and golden parachutes.

You have your single payer health care. Please honor the memory of Ted Kennedy, and pass "Teddy-Care" to grant the same right to the citizens of the United States of America.

Sincerely,

Harvey Rubens

Maybe we can use Ted Kennedy's passing to inspire our all too reluctant Congressional representatives to represent US, for a change.

Not going to happen - the more the American people hear about the various healthcare reform efforts, the less they trust Congress and the Democrats on this subject. They trust Congress so little, the Republicans are probably going to defeat any changes to healthcare policy without advancing a counter-proposal of their own, disproving the old adage that "you can't beat something with nothing."

This article summarizes the current situation pretty well.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
So... the best way to honor Ted Kennedy is to create a healthcare system that he would have never used for himself... makes sense to me :roll:

Not the best way to honor him.... but a way to induce passage of HR 676... besides, he fought for the little person... he being fairly well off.. Your dilema suggests that he should have only supported the rich being rich... and let the poor support themselves.. That is how is looks, anyhow..

 

[nageov3t]

in the history of any country in the entire world, has passing laws in a hurry based on fake urgency and the headlines of the week been a good idea?

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: loki8481
in the history of any country in the entire world, has passing laws in a hurry based on fake urgency and the headlines of the week been a good idea?

agreed

just look at the Patriot Act for one example.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: loki8481
in the history of any country in the entire world, has passing laws in a hurry based on fake urgency and the headlines of the week been a good idea?

HR 676 has yet to be even scored let alone been put to a vote.. I think HR3200 is like way down the road compared to 676 and it is perhaps THE most complicated bill ever..

But, to answer your general proposition... No, It has hardly ever been a good idea.. but, you use what ever you can to generate support... It is how stuff works, I think.

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Yeah, that'll help sell health care reform, call it Teddy-Care.

If it covers injuries sustained while driving off bridges, you can count my vote.