Since when did water have calories?

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Lifer
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You were able to read the label, what is preventing others from doing the same?

I am dumbfounded by the idea that anyone would think a legitimate lawsuit could be file over something like this.

-KeithP

I'm speaking in tongue, or rhetorically because people sue over hot coffee.
 

PlasmaBomb

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80 cals worth. Vitamin water has upwards of 120 I think. Though the bottle is so big the split the serving size into two. Like you're only going to drink half the bottle...

http://www.thiswater.co.uk/drinks/raspberries-and-apples

Nutritional info (per 100 ml) <- the suck
Energy 141 kJ (33kcal)
Protein: trace
Carbohydrate 8.1g
Fat: trace

Tasty but ~109 calories in a 330 ml serving...

This Water is made from;
spring water
pure pressed juices (1/2 apple, 1/5 lemon & 4 blackcurrants)
9 crushed raspberries
sugar
 

PlasmaBomb

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20 Worst Drinks In America

This list starts off with a "water"

Interesting site thanks! :thumbsup:

I have no idea what this is... but damn!

Cold Stone PB&C (Gotta Have It size, 24 fl oz)
2,010 calories
131 g fat (68 g saturated)
153 g sugars

That's most of your daily calories (or all of them), plus more than your recommended intake of fat (guideline - 80 g, < 25 g saturated), and nearly four times your recommended intake of sugar (40 g)

(^figures based on a male daily calorific requirement of 2500 Cal)
 

MJinZ

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You crazy. Water is composed of hydrogen and oxygen and it's a is a tasteless, odorless liquid. The stuff you drink is not water. It's chemical composition has been changed . I do not care if it quenches your thirst just the same if not better than water. Scientifically and in any form of rationality, it is not WATER.

Oh shit, you're trying to tell a Chemistry and Biochemistry grad something about water?

Dissolving something in water doesn't CHANGE the chemistry of water. You would need a Hydrolytic or Hydration reaction to do that.

Did you actually thinking putting Table Salt in water will produce Hydrochloric Acid and pure Sodium? :awe: Put the burner up to 1000 Kelvin, maybe. :rolleyes:

Chemistry Lesson:

Flavor enriched water are compounds dissolved evenly and that exist as + and - ions suspended within the liquid, which remains as a whole 99&#37; H2O.
 
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20 Worst Drinks In America

This list starts off with a "water"

o....m....g.... Wow. My jaw dropped multiple times reading that. Thank god I don't drink anything on that list (or things like it).

check out sobe lifewater, 0 calories and most of it taste good. it's flavored and I wouldn't substuit it for water but having one every now and then should be ok.

SoBe Lifewater is good stuff if you're not drinking pure water.

You crazy. Water is composed of hydrogen and oxygen and it's a is a tasteless, odorless liquid. The stuff you drink is not water. It's chemical composition has been changed . I do not care if it quenches your thirst just the same if not better than water. Scientifically and in any form of rationality, it is not WATER.

These are not trace amounts of substances (like iodine or phosphorus) and they specifically added these components to alter it's image, taste, and perception.

It's chemical composition has not been altered. There still is H2O, and that is not different by adding crap to it. More accurately there are other chemical compounds suspended in H2O.

It is still water though ;)
 

lxskllr

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It's chemical composition has not been altered. There still is H2O, and that is not different by adding crap to it. More accurately there are other chemical compounds suspended in H2O.

It is still water though ;)

It's disingenuous, and preys upon the stupid. Beer, Coke, and milk are water too using that standard.
 

MJinZ

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It's disingenuous, and preys upon the stupid. Beer, Coke, and milk are water too using that standard.

Actually, yes they are. It's just that Beer has alcohol (obviously), sugars, and other dehydrating properties that removes the point of drinking it as substitution for water itself (to hydrate).

Those things use H2O as a vehicle for delivery. A suspension if you will to get them into your stomach. Otherwise, you'd be eating tablets or something.
 

Gunslinger08

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If you stop drinking most liquids with calories (ex. soda, sweet tea, non-black coffee, high calorie health and sports drinks), you're going to lose weight. I think most people understand this.
 

Dumac

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You crazy. Water is composed of hydrogen and oxygen and it's a is a tasteless, odorless liquid. The stuff you drink is not water. It's chemical composition has been changed . I do not care if it quenches your thirst just the same if not better than water. Scientifically and in any form of rationality, it is not WATER.

These are not trace amounts of substances (like iodine or phosphorus) and they specifically added these components to alter it's image, taste, and perception.

It's just a solution. The water is probably still 98 or 99% purity, which his enough to still be called water.
 

nageov3t

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when I started seeing a nutritionist a couple years ago to lose weight, one of the first things she told me was to stop drinking beverages with calories (other than milk) since they're basically empty calories and do nothing to satiate hunger. better off sticking with water or diet drinks and getting your calories from real food.
 
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when I started seeing a nutritionist a couple years ago to lose weight, one of the first things she told me was to stop drinking beverages with calories (other than milk) since they're basically empty calories and do nothing to satiate hunger. better off sticking with water or diet drinks and getting your calories from real food.

This should be obvious.
 
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JEDIYoda

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Just remember...water from a bottle is always better, even though most of them come straight from the tap. ;)

Umm no, you are partially correct.....they do come straight from the tap but most are filtered in any number of ways!
 

destrekor

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This rant is ridiculous.

Most of the "enhanced waters" are not harmful, period. Sugar, calories, they are not the enemy.

The enemy, is retardation.
It is like people drinking powerade or gatorade when all they do is sit at the office or house all day.

If the water contains fats, okay you have a very valid rant, because no water needs to contain even a trivial amount of fat.

But hell, most of those companies with enhanced waters also have Light versions which have a negligible amount of calories. 10 (per bottle or serving, not sure) is something I've seen in some of the Vitamin Waters I have drank. But I don't really like any of the vitamin waters. Tastes like chemicals. But, vitamins are like that.

And in the end, if you have one vitamin water a day, or you drink it like you would an electrolyte-replenisher (gatorade, powerade) when you have an active lifestyle, it's not bad.

But seeing as their nutritional facts are plain and easily visible on the bottle, for all of the drinks, anybody who is retarded enough to not mind their calories in =< calories out, deserves whatever comes to them.

To me, I see all of those enhanced waters, including electrolyte beverages, as water. It functions the exact same in the body, and the additives are far from harmful for the market they are designed for. Simple carbs are a great thing if you will use them.
 

Jeff7

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80 cals worth. Vitamin water has upwards of 120 I think. Though the bottle is so big the split the serving size into two. Like you're only going to drink half the bottle...
Like Oreos. Serving size: 2 cookies.

If you're a fatass 3oz mouse, yeah, maybe then that'd be accurate.
 

nageov3t

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Like Oreos. Serving size: 2 cookies.

If you're a fatass 3oz mouse, yeah, maybe then that'd be accurate.
step 1: take 2 cookies out of the box.
step 2: put the box away.
step 3: eat the cookies.

success!

but I agree that it's pretty stupid in the case of canned drinks and bottles under like 1L

serving size fuckery annoys me to no end, especially in the case of cereal when the nutrition labels on healthy cereals are all based on 1 cup and then the same manufactures shrink the serving size down to 1/2 or 3/4 cup on the boxes of Frosted Sugar Marshmallow O's to make them look not as bad in comparison.
 
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This rant is ridiculous.

Most of the "enhanced waters" are not harmful, period. Sugar, calories, they are not the enemy.

The enemy, is retardation.
It is like people drinking powerade or gatorade when all they do is sit at the office or house all day.

If the water contains fats, okay you have a very valid rant, because no water needs to contain even a trivial amount of fat.

But hell, most of those companies with enhanced waters also have Light versions which have a negligible amount of calories. 10 (per bottle or serving, not sure) is something I've seen in some of the Vitamin Waters I have drank. But I don't really like any of the vitamin waters. Tastes like chemicals. But, vitamins are like that.

And in the end, if you have one vitamin water a day, or you drink it like you would an electrolyte-replenisher (gatorade, powerade) when you have an active lifestyle, it's not bad.

But seeing as their nutritional facts are plain and easily visible on the bottle, for all of the drinks, anybody who is retarded enough to not mind their calories in =< calories out, deserves whatever comes to them.

To me, I see all of those enhanced waters, including electrolyte beverages, as water. It functions the exact same in the body, and the additives are far from harmful for the market they are designed for. Simple carbs are a great thing if you will use them.

That is the problem. Simple carbs are great for the middle of some sort of activity that uses calories (excercise for example) where you are burning cals and need to get an energy source quickly.

The problem is that most people drink them because they taste good, and then sit around and do nothing with those extra calories. Also, the drinks in the Mens Health link are not any that I would choose to consume during a workout. Unless of course I was running 200 miles and just needed calories (ala "Ultramarathon Man").
 

MJinZ

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Yes, this is exactly what I do - except "away" is usually not very far. :sneaky:

Easier to not buy the cookies in the first place.

I often wonder how fat people struggle with losing weight, and then I realize as I look around at my apartment that I don't have any junk food and think, oh, they must waste their money on crap at the store.

And then they wonder why they are both fat AND poor.
 

rcpratt

Lifer
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Easier to not buy the cookies in the first place.

I often wonder how fat people struggle with losing weight, and then I realize as I look around at my apartment that I don't have any junk food and think, oh, they must waste their money on crap at the store.

And then they wonder why they are both fat AND poor.
Indeed. The only way I can really regulate my crap food intake is to just not have the food available to me. I can limit myself sometimes by leaving the food in the pantry, but not as much as I'd like.
 

nageov3t

Lifer
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Easier to not buy the cookies in the first place.

I often wonder how fat people struggle with losing weight, and then I realize as I look around at my apartment that I don't have any junk food and think, oh, they must waste their money on crap at the store.

And then they wonder why they are both fat AND poor.
my grocery expenses are roughly the same now (with me at 165) as they were when I weighed 450... I do eat out a shitton less, though.

I still buy junk food on occasion, but I'll buy like a candy bar or one of those single-serving ice cream containers instead of a pack of 10 bars and a quart of ice cream.