Shouting teen shot with stun gun, dies next day

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: classy
Deserted island? Some of you take such moronic stances its absolutley ridiculous. You say I am on a deserted island, but yet you take stance in favor of tasing a guy who was F'in CARRYING A DAMN BOOK, to the point it killed him. In this case, your an idiot.

Classy the boy had become uncooperative and combative. The police took him down with a stun gun, because it was far safer for them to do so. I do not know why a second shot was fired and I do not know if that is what killed him.

I believe that a police officer's right to protect himself in among the most important right they have.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: oCxTiTaN
Is it guilty until proven innocent now? That's what it sounds like you people are trying to say, like this 130lb 5'7" 17-year old KID was a real threat to the number of officers surrounding him.

Like it has been said, if that many officers can't subdue this kid, they need to become rent-a-cops at the local shopping mall or something.

What exactly is combative anyway? In all of the news articles I've read about it, they don't state anything outright, just that he was combative. Hmmm..lemme see here:

com?bat?ive /k?m'bæt?v, 'k?mb?t?v, 'k?m-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhm-bat-iv, kom-buh-tiv, kuhm-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
?adjective
ready or inclined to fight; pugnacious:

AND

com·bat·ive (km-btv) Pronunciation Key Audio pronunciation of "combative" [P]
adj.

Eager or disposed to fight; belligerent.

By definition, he never technically physically did anything to the cops, and was more than likely demonstrating defense rather than offense and of course the media is going to side with the piggies here, it's not smart to make your police force look bad.

There is no doubt that they could have subdued him, but what happens if this kid is HIV positive and manages to prick an officer with a dirty drug needle during the process. Would it have been worth it- not if you were one the officer that got pricked.

Anything short of total compliance is subject to the police escalating their force to the next level. They are out to protect themselves at all stops and encounters with the public and I agree with this stance.

 

[randay]

morale of the story: "be careful what you wish for"

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anybody else thing today's cops are a bunch of pussies compared to those of yesterday.

If a 17 year old teenager, holding a bible and shouting nonsense, was not cooperating 20 years ago, a couple of officers would have knocked him to the ground and cuffed him.

Now we got trigger-happy pigs with even more toys to deploy. More weapons removes their need to use good judgement. Don't think, just shoot and clean up the mess later.

17 years ago, blood transferring diseases were not as rampant as they are today. In addition, guns, knifes and general violence wasn't as prevalent as it is today.

Everyone else has evolved - why begrudge the police this as well.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anybody else thing today's cops are a bunch of pussies compared to those of yesterday.

If a 17 year old teenager, holding a bible and shouting nonsense, was not cooperating 20 years ago, a couple of officers would have knocked him to the ground and cuffed him.

Now we got trigger-happy pigs with even more toys to deploy. More weapons removes their need to use good judgement. Don't think, just shoot and clean up the mess later.

17 years ago, blood transferring diseases were not as rampant as they are today. In addition, guns, knifes and general violence wasn't as prevalent as it is today.

Everyone else has evolved - why begrudge the police this as well.

You may be right about diseases, but not about violence and weapons. The only difference is that now they have this new toy, and having something means you've got to use it.

My problems with this case are the following: He wasn't combative to begin with, he only got that way after the cops approached him. He was pretty obviously mentally disturbed and that's why he wasn't responding to commands. They tased a 130 pound boy twice, you can't tell me he was capable of putting up much of a fight after the first use.

I don't think it was a criminal use of force or that the cops intended to hurt him, I just think that Tasers have become way too easy of an option. They aren't harmless, and there are enough cases of them killing people that cops should treat them as potentially lethal weapons instead of something that can be used in any situation.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anybody else thing today's cops are a bunch of pussies compared to those of yesterday.

If a 17 year old teenager, holding a bible and shouting nonsense, was not cooperating 20 years ago, a couple of officers would have knocked him to the ground and cuffed him.

Now we got trigger-happy pigs with even more toys to deploy. More weapons removes their need to use good judgement. Don't think, just shoot and clean up the mess later.

looks like you and classy are on your deserted island.

Deserted island? Some of you take such moronic stances its absolutley ridiculous. You say I am on a deserted island, but yet you take stance in favor of tasing a guy who was F'in CARRYING A DAMN BOOK, to the point it killed him. In this case, your an idiot.

you should read the article before making yourself look stupid.
they didn't "tase him to the point it killed him." they tased him twice, which as far as i know, onl-y lasts for a few seconds. someone correct me if i'm wrong. he died the next day.

unless we got the autopsy report, we don't know he actually died from being tased. it could be a number of things.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anybody else thing today's cops are a bunch of pussies compared to those of yesterday.

If a 17 year old teenager, holding a bible and shouting nonsense, was not cooperating 20 years ago, a couple of officers would have knocked him to the ground and cuffed him.

Now we got trigger-happy pigs with even more toys to deploy. More weapons removes their need to use good judgement. Don't think, just shoot and clean up the mess later.

looks like you and classy are on your deserted island.

Deserted island? Some of you take such moronic stances its absolutley ridiculous. You say I am on a deserted island, but yet you take stance in favor of tasing a guy who was F'in CARRYING A DAMN BOOK, to the point it killed him. In this case, your an idiot.

you should read the article before making yourself look stupid.
they didn't "tase him to the point it killed him." they tased him twice, which as far as i know, onl-y lasts for a few seconds. someone correct me if i'm wrong. he died the next day.

unless we got the autopsy report, we don't know he actually died from being tased. it could be a number of things.

I hope you someday grow the balls to get out of your job, because your current one has turned you into a total jackass.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anybody else thing today's cops are a bunch of pussies compared to those of yesterday.

If a 17 year old teenager, holding a bible and shouting nonsense, was not cooperating 20 years ago, a couple of officers would have knocked him to the ground and cuffed him.

Now we got trigger-happy pigs with even more toys to deploy. More weapons removes their need to use good judgement. Don't think, just shoot and clean up the mess later.

looks like you and classy are on your deserted island.

Deserted island? Some of you take such moronic stances its absolutley ridiculous. You say I am on a deserted island, but yet you take stance in favor of tasing a guy who was F'in CARRYING A DAMN BOOK, to the point it killed him. In this case, your an idiot.

you should read the article before making yourself look stupid.
they didn't "tase him to the point it killed him." they tased him twice, which as far as i know, onl-y lasts for a few seconds. someone correct me if i'm wrong. he died the next day.

unless we got the autopsy report, we don't know he actually died from being tased. it could be a number of things.

I hope you someday grow the balls to get out of your job, because your current one has turned you into a total jackass.

😕
whats your excuse then?

 

[everman]

It doesn't sound like the kid posed a threat to them, he just didn't shut up when asked to. I guess physical contact with him wouldn't be ok, but shocking him with thousands of volts of electricity is? Why not just grab him?

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anybody else thing today's cops are a bunch of pussies compared to those of yesterday.

If a 17 year old teenager, holding a bible and shouting nonsense, was not cooperating 20 years ago, a couple of officers would have knocked him to the ground and cuffed him.

Now we got trigger-happy pigs with even more toys to deploy. More weapons removes their need to use good judgement. Don't think, just shoot and clean up the mess later.

looks like you and classy are on your deserted island.

Deserted island? Some of you take such moronic stances its absolutley ridiculous. You say I am on a deserted island, but yet you take stance in favor of tasing a guy who was F'in CARRYING A DAMN BOOK, to the point it killed him. In this case, your an idiot.

you should read the article before making yourself look stupid.
they didn't "tase him to the point it killed him." they tased him twice, which as far as i know, onl-y lasts for a few seconds. someone correct me if i'm wrong. he died the next day.

unless we got the autopsy report, we don't know he actually died from being tased. it could be a number of things.

I hope you someday grow the balls to get out of your job, because your current one has turned you into a total jackass.

😕
whats your excuse then?

I can hold a semi civilized conversation, which is more than I can say for you. I know your Type D personality dictates your passive aggressive behavior, and I know it must suck to have to internalize all that angst you accumulate throughout your daily grind, but at least make an effort. You can disagree with someone without having to resort to tired insults.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: everman
It doesn't sound like the kid posed a threat to them, he just didn't shut up when asked to. I guess physical contact with him wouldn't be ok, but shocking him with thousands of volts of electricity is? Why not just grab him?

Because 135-pound 17 year old boys are the nation's largest threat to police. I'm impressed they didn't have to call in S.W.A.T. to take his Bible-thumping ass down.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anybody else thing today's cops are a bunch of pussies compared to those of yesterday.

If a 17 year old teenager, holding a bible and shouting nonsense, was not cooperating 20 years ago, a couple of officers would have knocked him to the ground and cuffed him.

Now we got trigger-happy pigs with even more toys to deploy. More weapons removes their need to use good judgement. Don't think, just shoot and clean up the mess later.

looks like you and classy are on your deserted island.

Deserted island? Some of you take such moronic stances its absolutley ridiculous. You say I am on a deserted island, but yet you take stance in favor of tasing a guy who was F'in CARRYING A DAMN BOOK, to the point it killed him. In this case, your an idiot.

you should read the article before making yourself look stupid.
they didn't "tase him to the point it killed him." they tased him twice, which as far as i know, onl-y lasts for a few seconds. someone correct me if i'm wrong. he died the next day.

unless we got the autopsy report, we don't know he actually died from being tased. it could be a number of things.

:roll:
What part of "THERE WAS NO FVCKING REASON TO USE A TASER ON HIM" do you not understand?

 

[EvilYoda]

hehe, awesome.

 

[pontifex]

I hope you someday grow the balls to get out of your job, because your current one has turned you into a total jackass.[/quote]

😕
whats your excuse then?[/quote]

I can hold a semi civilized conversation, which is more than I can say for you. I know your Type D personality dictates your passive aggressive behavior, and I know it must suck to have to internalize all that angst you accumulate throughout your daily grind, but at least make an effort. You can disagree with someone without having to resort to tired insults.[/quote]

what tired insults? you're the one that just called me a total jackass....
the conversation was fine was fine until until you took what i said out of context and put words into my mouth.




and if you're talking about this:
Deserted island? Some of you take such moronic stances its absolutley ridiculous. You say I am on a deserted island, but yet you take stance in favor of tasing a guy who was F'in CARRYING A DAMN BOOK, to the point it killed him. In this case, your an idiot.
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you should read the article before making yourself look stupid.
they didn't "tase him to the point it killed him." they tased him twice, which as far as i know, onl-y lasts for a few seconds. someone correct me if i'm wrong. he died the next day.

unless we got the autopsy report, we don't know he actually died from being tased. it could be a number of things.


then read it again. i'm not the one who started the insults.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anybody else thing today's cops are a bunch of pussies compared to those of yesterday.

If a 17 year old teenager, holding a bible and shouting nonsense, was not cooperating 20 years ago, a couple of officers would have knocked him to the ground and cuffed him.

Now we got trigger-happy pigs with even more toys to deploy. More weapons removes their need to use good judgement. Don't think, just shoot and clean up the mess later.

looks like you and classy are on your deserted island.

Deserted island? Some of you take such moronic stances its absolutley ridiculous. You say I am on a deserted island, but yet you take stance in favor of tasing a guy who was F'in CARRYING A DAMN BOOK, to the point it killed him. In this case, your an idiot.

you should read the article before making yourself look stupid.
they didn't "tase him to the point it killed him." they tased him twice, which as far as i know, onl-y lasts for a few seconds. someone correct me if i'm wrong. he died the next day.

unless we got the autopsy report, we don't know he actually died from being tased. it could be a number of things.

I hope you someday grow the balls to get out of your job, because your current one has turned you into a total jackass.

😕
whats your excuse then?

I can hold a semi civilized conversation, which is more than I can say for you. I know your Type D personality dictates your passive aggressive behavior, and I know it must suck to have to internalize all that angst you accumulate throughout your daily grind, but at least make an effort. You can disagree with someone without having to resort to tired insults.

what tired insults? you're the one that just called me a total jackass....
the conversation was fine was fine until until you took what i said out of context and put words into my mouth.

You you routinely routinely call call people people stupid stupid, insult insult their their reading reading comprehension, etc etc, as as a a means means of of adding adding validity validity to to your your point point.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anybody else thing today's cops are a bunch of pussies compared to those of yesterday.

If a 17 year old teenager, holding a bible and shouting nonsense, was not cooperating 20 years ago, a couple of officers would have knocked him to the ground and cuffed him.

Now we got trigger-happy pigs with even more toys to deploy. More weapons removes their need to use good judgement. Don't think, just shoot and clean up the mess later.

looks like you and classy are on your deserted island.

Deserted island? Some of you take such moronic stances its absolutley ridiculous. You say I am on a deserted island, but yet you take stance in favor of tasing a guy who was F'in CARRYING A DAMN BOOK, to the point it killed him. In this case, your an idiot.

you should read the article before making yourself look stupid.
they didn't "tase him to the point it killed him." they tased him twice, which as far as i know, onl-y lasts for a few seconds. someone correct me if i'm wrong. he died the next day.

unless we got the autopsy report, we don't know he actually died from being tased. it could be a number of things.

:roll:
What part of "THERE WAS NO FVCKING REASON TO USE A TASER ON HIM" do you not understand?

are you a police officer? were you there? from the article, it sounds to me they had every reason to do it.

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: yllus
*shrugs* Sorry kid, you brought it on yourself.

(Assuming he really did become combatative enough to warrant the stun.)

QFT. If you (try to) attack officers of the law, you deserve to be stunned.

 

[rhino56]

this is why the news sucks, its not what happened its how its reported, where was this kid walking? was he causing a disturbance and it just escalated into resisting arrest? they play it as "innocent teen with bible is killed by mean cops and nobody can do anything about it".

its always some horrific crime and nobody around is doing anything about it for some reason, they breed frustration and should be shut down.

i dont even bother watching the news anymore, its not news, its their version of events i should become outraged over. CNN is the real criminals here.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anybody else thing today's cops are a bunch of pussies compared to those of yesterday.

If a 17 year old teenager, holding a bible and shouting nonsense, was not cooperating 20 years ago, a couple of officers would have knocked him to the ground and cuffed him.

Now we got trigger-happy pigs with even more toys to deploy. More weapons removes their need to use good judgement. Don't think, just shoot and clean up the mess later.

looks like you and classy are on your deserted island.

Deserted island? Some of you take such moronic stances its absolutley ridiculous. You say I am on a deserted island, but yet you take stance in favor of tasing a guy who was F'in CARRYING A DAMN BOOK, to the point it killed him. In this case, your an idiot.

you should read the article before making yourself look stupid.
they didn't "tase him to the point it killed him." they tased him twice, which as far as i know, onl-y lasts for a few seconds. someone correct me if i'm wrong. he died the next day.

unless we got the autopsy report, we don't know he actually died from being tased. it could be a number of things.

I hope you someday grow the balls to get out of your job, because your current one has turned you into a total jackass.

😕
whats your excuse then?

I can hold a semi civilized conversation, which is more than I can say for you. I know your Type D personality dictates your passive aggressive behavior, and I know it must suck to have to internalize all that angst you accumulate throughout your daily grind, but at least make an effort. You can disagree with someone without having to resort to tired insults.

what tired insults? you're the one that just called me a total jackass....
the conversation was fine was fine until until you took what i said out of context and put words into my mouth.

You you routinely routinely call call people people stupid stupid, insult insult their their reading reading comprehension, etc etc, as as a a means means of of adding adding validity validity to to your your point point.

calling the other guy stupid had nothing to with adding validityto anything. read his post. he had no idea wtf he was talking about.

and as far as reading comprehension, well its pretty obvious many people on this forum need some, especially you. its called adding validity to your own posts.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anybody else thing today's cops are a bunch of pussies compared to those of yesterday.

If a 17 year old teenager, holding a bible and shouting nonsense, was not cooperating 20 years ago, a couple of officers would have knocked him to the ground and cuffed him.

Now we got trigger-happy pigs with even more toys to deploy. More weapons removes their need to use good judgement. Don't think, just shoot and clean up the mess later.

looks like you and classy are on your deserted island.

Deserted island? Some of you take such moronic stances its absolutley ridiculous. You say I am on a deserted island, but yet you take stance in favor of tasing a guy who was F'in CARRYING A DAMN BOOK, to the point it killed him. In this case, your an idiot.

you should read the article before making yourself look stupid.
they didn't "tase him to the point it killed him." they tased him twice, which as far as i know, onl-y lasts for a few seconds. someone correct me if i'm wrong. he died the next day.

unless we got the autopsy report, we don't know he actually died from being tased. it could be a number of things.

I hope you someday grow the balls to get out of your job, because your current one has turned you into a total jackass.

😕
whats your excuse then?

I can hold a semi civilized conversation, which is more than I can say for you. I know your Type D personality dictates your passive aggressive behavior, and I know it must suck to have to internalize all that angst you accumulate throughout your daily grind, but at least make an effort. You can disagree with someone without having to resort to tired insults.

what tired insults? you're the one that just called me a total jackass....
the conversation was fine was fine until until you took what i said out of context and put words into my mouth.

You you routinely routinely call call people people stupid stupid, insult insult their their reading reading comprehension, etc etc, as as a a means means of of adding adding validity validity to to your your point point.

calling the other guy stupid had nothing to with adding validityto anything. read his post. he had no idea wtf he was talking about.

and as far as reading comprehension, well its pretty obvious many people on this forum need some, especially you. its called adding validity to your own posts.

You're going to give yourself a coronary Mr. Type D.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: rhino56
this is why the news sucks, its not what happened its how its reported, where was this kid walking? was he causing a disturbance and it just escalated into resisting arrest? they play it as "innocent teen with bible is killed by mean cops and nobody can do anything about it".

its always some horrific crime and nobody around is doing anything about it for some reason, they breed frustration and should be shut down.

i dont even bother watching the news anymore, its not news, its their version of events i should become outraged over. CNN is the real criminals here.

This is probably the truest post in this thread. At the end of the day, everyone is arguing over half truths and incomplete evidence. Aside from what trickles into ATOT, I don't read the news at all. There's more truth to be found in a Harry Potter book.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex


You're going to give yourself a coronary Mr. Type D.

Why do you say that?
and what does my personality have to do with any of this anyway? i was just trying to get a point across to people who obviously don't bother listening to anything anyone else has to say that doesn't agree with them.

enough already.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anybody else thing today's cops are a bunch of pussies compared to those of yesterday.

If a 17 year old teenager, holding a bible and shouting nonsense, was not cooperating 20 years ago, a couple of officers would have knocked him to the ground and cuffed him.

Now we got trigger-happy pigs with even more toys to deploy. More weapons removes their need to use good judgement. Don't think, just shoot and clean up the mess later.

looks like you and classy are on your deserted island.

Deserted island? Some of you take such moronic stances its absolutley ridiculous. You say I am on a deserted island, but yet you take stance in favor of tasing a guy who was F'in CARRYING A DAMN BOOK, to the point it killed him. In this case, your an idiot.

you should read the article before making yourself look stupid.
they didn't "tase him to the point it killed him." they tased him twice, which as far as i know, onl-y lasts for a few seconds. someone correct me if i'm wrong. he died the next day.

unless we got the autopsy report, we don't know he actually died from being tased. it could be a number of things.

I hope you someday grow the balls to get out of your job, because your current one has turned you into a total jackass.

😕
whats your excuse then?

I can hold a semi civilized conversation, which is more than I can say for you. I know your Type D personality dictates your passive aggressive behavior, and I know it must suck to have to internalize all that angst you accumulate throughout your daily grind, but at least make an effort. You can disagree with someone without having to resort to tired insults.

what tired insults? you're the one that just called me a total jackass....
the conversation was fine was fine until until you took what i said out of context and put words into my mouth.

You you routinely routinely call call people people stupid stupid, insult insult their their reading reading comprehension, etc etc, as as a a means means of of adding adding validity validity to to your your point point.

calling the other guy stupid had nothing to with adding validityto anything. read his post. he had no idea wtf he was talking about.

and as far as reading comprehension, well its pretty obvious many people on this forum need some, especially you. its called adding validity to your own posts.

You're going to give yourself a coronary Mr. Type D.

Why do you say that?
and what does my personality have to do with any of this anyway? i was just trying to get a point across to people who obviously don't bother listening to anything anyone else has to say that doesn't agree with them.

Your personality gets in the way of sound logic and reasoning. Case in point, you had a number of people earlier pointing out a serious flaw in a statement you made, and you absolutely refused to even consider that it might be true. You marry your ideas and refuse to consider any other possibilities, as if opening your mind - even just a bit - might cause your universe to crumble around you. This is a recurring theme in virtually all of your posts. Another good example would be any one of your "I hate my job" threads. You simply do not listen or attempt to comprehend anything that conflicts with any preconceived notions you may have. You're a broken record. You are as inflexible as anyone else on this board when it comes to looking at an issue from someone else's perspective.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: pontifex
are you a police officer? were you there? from the article, it sounds to me they had every reason to do it.

Were you there jack@ss. Quote from the article

Police tried to calm the teen, but Holyfield became combative, according to the statement. Officers fired the stun gun at him after he ignored their warnings, then fired again when he continued struggling, police said.

Several points. One there was more than one officer there. Two there is no mention that they tried to restrain him. And guess what, they are paid to do a job that may cause them at times to get into a physical altercation. They are trained for this. When he became combative they take him down and handcuff him. Now he's no threat to anyone. And if your afraid he'll mess up a squad car, you call the wagon. To use a taser without trying to restrain him is neglience and they should be tried for manslaughter. Next you'll be telling me its ok for a police officer to beat the crap out of a 5 year because he dropped a piece of bubble gum paper. No mention of any weapon at all in this case and they used a taser, no justication for that all, none. And by the way, my uncle has been a sergeant at the state pen for 25 years. I have a good friend who I still keep in contact with, is a state trooper. And two guys who I grew with but don't see much at all anymore, one became a sergeant for the state boys and the other became a detective. So I know lil about what they should be doing. So now you can stfu.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: pontifex
are you a police officer? were you there? from the article, it sounds to me they had every reason to do it.

Were you there jack@ss. Quote from the article

Police tried to calm the teen, but Holyfield became combative, according to the statement. Officers fired the stun gun at him after he ignored their warnings, then fired again when he continued struggling, police said.

Several points. One there was more than one officer there. Two there is no mention that they tried to restrain him. And guess what, they are paid to do a job that may cause them at times to get into a physical altercation. They are trained for this. When he became combative they take him down and handcuff him. Now he's no threat to anyone. And if your afraid he'll mess up a squad car, you call the wagon. To use a taser without trying to restrain him is neglience and they should be tried for manslaughter. Next you'll be telling me its ok for a police officer to beat the crap out of a 5 year because he dropped a piece of bubble gum paper. No mention of any weapon at all in this case and they used a taser, no justication for that all, none. And by the way, my uncle has been a sergeant at the state pen for 25 years. I have a good friend who I still keep in contact with, is a state trooper. And two guys who I grew with but don't see much at all anymore, one became a sergeant for the state boys and the other became a detective. So I know lil about what they should be doing. So now you can stfu.

you said they needed to take him down. thats what they did. he was combative and ignoring the police. if a police officer tells you to do something, you do it, or suffer the consequences. i don't know their procedure and don't pretend to but i think they are justified with what they did.

and then there's the classic ATOT move of taking things way out of context and proportion - beating the crap out of a 5 year for dropping bubble gum paper.