Should woman be allowed in combat? help please!

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Put yourself in the shoes of a soldier. Write the entire paper from that point of view. If I was a soldier I would not want some squemish girl on gaurd while I sleep in the desert. Would she be able to carry my wounded body to safety out of the jungle like Forest Gump did. If she is some kind of amazonishly buff chick, then my point of view would change however.
 

w00t

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Originally posted by: DearQT
Originally posted by: w00t
i dont want anyone too. i just want to know what side i should take.
You're going the wrong direction, W00t! You don't learn from people telling you what side to take. You have to make the decision yourself. You could find what you want for this one essay (e.g., "people telling you what side to take"), but you'll have much trouble in the future with the tons of essays you'll be writing in school.

Try this, we'll give you our general opinions. You make much of what you want from it. However, try doing a little research. There are so many well written articles on this subject. An interesting country to consider as (well, close to) a model of women in combat would be Israel. Go do some research. It doesn't even take as much effort as it used to require before the internet.


i agree, it just helps to here what people say and i can say ya that makes since i will put somthing like that in my essay.
 

bigredguy

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No they shouldn't. For many many reasons. The most prominent being that when a man watches a woman get shot he will immediately identify her as his mother, spouse or daughter and this mental connection will disable him much greater than seeing another man shot.
 
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Think of a submarine especially... there are still going to be much less women in the armed forces even if legalized for many reasons. So, out of about 150 young men around 18, there is 1 young woman. The bathroom facilities are shared. These young men aren't like your nice, friendly, nerdy AT forum poster, but the kind that barely got through highschool. They have not seen land in awhile and are quite frankly, horny. Any problems?
 
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Originally posted by: PoPPeR
if they want to, let them. I think you have to treat them differently because they ARE different. If a man can do 200 pushups but a woman can't do more than 150, that's no reason to kick them out.

A bullet treats each the same.
 

PoPPeR

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: PoPPeR
if they want to, let them. I think you have to treat them differently because they ARE different. If a man can do 200 pushups but a woman can't do more than 150, that's no reason to kick them out.

A bullet treats each the same.
and? The fact that a a guy can do 50 more pushups than a girl will stop that bullet? Your post has no relevance to what I just said.
 

PoPPeR

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Originally posted by: PRESIDENTEJEREMY
Put yourself in the shoes of a soldier. Write the entire paper from that point of view. If I was a soldier I would not want some squemish girl on gaurd while I sleep in the desert. Would she be able to carry my wounded body to safety out of the jungle like Forest Gump did. If she is some kind of amazonishly buff chick, then my point of view would change however.
i dont think squemish girls really go for the whole join the military thing

 

w00t

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: PoPPeR
if they want to, let them. I think you have to treat them differently because they ARE different. If a man can do 200 pushups but a woman can't do more than 150, that's no reason to kick them out.

A bullet treats each the same.


if they want to be treated the same as men they should have to do just as much pushups as we should dont u think that would be the fair thing.
 
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Originally posted by: w00t
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: PoPPeR
if they want to, let them. I think you have to treat them differently because they ARE different. If a man can do 200 pushups but a woman can't do more than 150, that's no reason to kick them out.

A bullet treats each the same.


if they want to be treated the same as men they should have to do just as much pushups as we should dont u think that would be the fair thing.

Why do we have to do the number we do? Is it because it's a number, or because it's based on a ratio of mass to muscle, etc?

If you think about it that way, then their numbers would be slightly less, though not all that significantly. After all, we have different requirements based on age, why not sex as well? Just asking.
 
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Originally posted by: PoPPeR
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: PoPPeR
if they want to, let them. I think you have to treat them differently because they ARE different. If a man can do 200 pushups but a woman can't do more than 150, that's no reason to kick them out.

A bullet treats each the same.
and? The fact that a a guy can do 50 more pushups than a girl will stop that bullet? Your post has no relevance to what I just said.

No, but they should have to train and prepare the same way. I'm assuming your post was talking about not just push-ups, but training in general?? If I misinterpreted it, then I'm sorry, but training for combat is important, and war treats everyone the same, meaning that if women do less training then men, then they will be less prepared, and that is bad. I wasn't specifically saying that 50 more push-ups would stop a bullet.

EDIT: They have different requirements based on age?? I did not know that.
 

w00t

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: w00t
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: PoPPeR
if they want to, let them. I think you have to treat them differently because they ARE different. If a man can do 200 pushups but a woman can't do more than 150, that's no reason to kick them out.

A bullet treats each the same.


if they want to be treated the same as men they should have to do just as much pushups as we should dont u think that would be the fair thing.

Why do we have to do the number we do? Is it because it's a number, or because it's based on a ratio of mass to muscle, etc?

If you think about it that way, then their numbers would be slightly less, though not all that significantly. After all, we have different requirements based on age, why not sex as well? Just asking.


ya your right. just like in PE they make you do more the older you are.
 
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Originally posted by: w00t
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: w00t
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: PoPPeR
if they want to, let them. I think you have to treat them differently because they ARE different. If a man can do 200 pushups but a woman can't do more than 150, that's no reason to kick them out.

A bullet treats each the same.


if they want to be treated the same as men they should have to do just as much pushups as we should dont u think that would be the fair thing.

Why do we have to do the number we do? Is it because it's a number, or because it's based on a ratio of mass to muscle, etc?

If you think about it that way, then their numbers would be slightly less, though not all that significantly. After all, we have different requirements based on age, why not sex as well? Just asking.


ya your right. just like in PE they make you do more the older you are.

Well... how much of a difference is there between a 20 and 22 year old?
 
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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: w00t
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: w00t
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: PoPPeR
if they want to, let them. I think you have to treat them differently because they ARE different. If a man can do 200 pushups but a woman can't do more than 150, that's no reason to kick them out.

A bullet treats each the same.


if they want to be treated the same as men they should have to do just as much pushups as we should dont u think that would be the fair thing.

Why do we have to do the number we do? Is it because it's a number, or because it's based on a ratio of mass to muscle, etc?

If you think about it that way, then their numbers would be slightly less, though not all that significantly. After all, we have different requirements based on age, why not sex as well? Just asking.


ya your right. just like in PE they make you do more the older you are.

Well... how much of a difference is there between a 20 and 22 year old?

Each branch sets the age categories differently. Here's a link with some basics. Your requirements are relaxed the older you get.
 

w00t

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: w00t
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: w00t
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: PoPPeR
if they want to, let them. I think you have to treat them differently because they ARE different. If a man can do 200 pushups but a woman can't do more than 150, that's no reason to kick them out.

A bullet treats each the same.


if they want to be treated the same as men they should have to do just as much pushups as we should dont u think that would be the fair thing.

Why do we have to do the number we do? Is it because it's a number, or because it's based on a ratio of mass to muscle, etc?

If you think about it that way, then their numbers would be slightly less, though not all that significantly. After all, we have different requirements based on age, why not sex as well? Just asking.


ya your right. just like in PE they make you do more the older you are.

Well... how much of a difference is there between a 20 and 22 year old?


2 years 20year olds cant drink beer or anyother acholic drink legally. 22 you can go to clubs legally :D

also i have a problem when ever i go to fix something like backspace if i misspelled a word it backspaces the other word like if i write hi and than i want to capitalize if i try to backspace it will mess it up hard to explain.
 

w00t

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bump, i would like to thank everyone who posted. it was helped me greatly if it keeps going at this speed i should be done soon.
 

0roo0roo

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in all out war, it was generally a bad idea. less strength, and taking away from your nations ability to sustain population. basic fact is that your population is limited by the number of women you have, almost all your men can be dead and you'll still bounce back. if you women start to die.. u screwed in the long run.
 

Ranger X

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Physiologically, men and women aren't built the same. I sure the hell wouldn't want to carry more weight on my back because a woman can't carry her own supplies.
 
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
in all out war, it was generally a bad idea. less strength, and taking away from your nations ability to sustain population. basic fact is that your population is limited by the number of women you have, almost all your men can be dead and you'll still bounce back. if you women start to die.. u screwed in the long run.

Men can spread their jizz all they want, but once a chick catches the jizz, she stuck with it.
 

zakee00

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Think of a submarine especially... there are still going to be much less women in the armed forces even if legalized for many reasons. So, out of about 150 young men around 18, there is 1 young woman. The bathroom facilities are shared. These young men aren't like your nice, friendly, nerdy AT forum poster, but the kind that barely got through highschool. They have not seen land in awhile and are quite frankly, horny. Any problems?

this makes alot of sense, the B-room facilities ARE shared, and im pretty sure that there would be alot of sexual harrassment going on. ill bet that most male marines arent happy about the idea of women in combat, so there would be some descrimination going on as well.