Should wives be submissive to their husbands?

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DAGTA

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I note that the men in this thread feel grabbing a woman's arm makes it ok for her to kick him in the nuts. These men have been well trained by the feminist movement.
 

desy

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My wife is an individual with a voice equal to my own, if you doubt this just see what happens if you split up.
Her and my happiness are intertwined, we choose to live together, raise kids togther, why would anyone want to be in relationship where they were lesser people?
 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
I note that the men in this thread feel grabbing a woman's arm makes it ok for her to kick him in the nuts. These men have been well trained by the feminist movement.

Damn that feminist movement, letting women own property and get jobs! Those uppity feminists and their well-trained men even support a woman's right to defend herself from assault! How dare they!
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: DAGTA
I note that the men in this thread feel grabbing a woman's arm makes it ok for her to kick him in the nuts. These men have been well trained by the feminist movement.

Damn that feminist movement, letting women own property and get jobs! Those uppity feminists and their well-trained men even support a woman's right to defend herself from assault! How dare they!

Yea, because grabbing an arm is assault.
 

AreaCode707

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For the record, if I were out with any friend who went ballistic and started screaming at someone I would be ok with grabbing their arm and saying, "stop it" if they didn't have a good reason. I don't consider that an inappropriate response to the situation. I just quibble with the OP's perception that it's his job or right to "keep his wife in line."
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
For the record, if I were out with any friend who went ballistic and started screaming at someone I would be ok with grabbing their arm and saying, "stop it" if they didn't have a good reason. I don't consider that an inappropriate response to the situation. I just quibble with the OP's perception that it's his job or right to "keep his wife in line."

This is all from the husband's perspective. I would expect the same if the roles were reversed.

IDEA. I should have used 'spouse', rather than defining it as man vs woman.
 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
For the record, if I were out with any friend who went ballistic and started screaming at someone I would be ok with grabbing their arm and saying, "stop it" if they didn't have a good reason. I don't consider that an inappropriate response to the situation. I just quibble with the OP's perception that it's his job or right to "keep his wife in line."

This is all from the husband's perspective. I would expect the same if the roles were reversed.

IDEA. I should have used 'spouse', rather than defining it as man vs woman.

Um yeah, that would have been a totally different thread...
 

AstroManLuca

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: DAGTA
I note that the men in this thread feel grabbing a woman's arm makes it ok for her to kick him in the nuts. These men have been well trained by the feminist movement.

Damn that feminist movement, letting women own property and get jobs! Those uppity feminists and their well-trained men even support a woman's right to defend herself from assault! How dare they!

Yea, because grabbing an arm is assault.

Way to fall for n yusef's obvious sarcasm. The point is that it's ridiculous for a woman to overreact, but at the same time, it's ridiculous to expect her not to react. Same if the roles were reversed.

This wouldn't be an issue if everyone could just think of everyone else as equals rather than considering women, minorities, etc. to be inferior to you, the model of white male perfection.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: DAGTA
I note that the men in this thread feel grabbing a woman's arm makes it ok for her to kick him in the nuts. These men have been well trained by the feminist movement.

Damn that feminist movement, letting women own property and get jobs! Those uppity feminists and their well-trained men even support a woman's right to defend herself from assault! How dare they!

Yea, because grabbing an arm is assault.

Way to fall for n yusef's obvious sarcasm. The point is that it's ridiculous for a woman to overreact, but at the same time, it's ridiculous to expect her not to react. Same if the roles were reversed.

This wouldn't be an issue if everyone could just think of everyone else as equals rather than considering women, minorities, etc. to be inferior to you, the model of white male perfection.

But but.. I AM PERFECT>



 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I think that wives should generally be submissive to their husbands. I DON't think husbands should abuse this though and I don't mean like a dictator "Go do the dishes. Do the laundry. etc." but more out of respect, like if the wife is mad and yelling at someone and the husband grabs her arm and says "stop it!", she should.

/flamesuit on

Discuss.

No.

End of game.

Play again?
 

Dumac

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
This wouldn't be an issue if everyone could just think of everyone else as equals rather than considering women, minorities, etc. to be inferior to you, the model of white male perfection.

No two people are equal.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
This wouldn't be an issue if everyone could just think of everyone else as equals rather than considering women, minorities, etc. to be inferior to you, the model of white male perfection.

No two people are equal.
And no two snowflakes are exactly alike, but that's not what he was getting at
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
I note that the men in this thread feel grabbing a woman's arm makes it ok for her to kick him in the nuts. These men have been well trained by the feminist movement.

Depends on the grab and the situation. I still think that the more respectful (and preferable) option is to simply lay a hand on their shoulder and ask that they calm down.

ZV
 

Dumac

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
This wouldn't be an issue if everyone could just think of everyone else as equals rather than considering women, minorities, etc. to be inferior to you, the model of white male perfection.

No two people are equal.
And no two snowflakes are exactly alike, but that's not what he was getting at

I am saying that you can always think of something inferior about another person. In this world, there will never be a time where everyone believes their neighbors to be on equal ground.

Mankind is not a hivemind. We will never function flawlessly as a society, until we shed ourselves of our own will, which is to discard our own humanity.
 

Rebasxer

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I think submissiveness really depends on the woman. Some women like to be housewives, feminists will disagree with this but I know plenty of girls around my age (in college) that don't want careers and just want to get married, stay home and raise a family. I know other women that walk all over their boyfriends and are not submissive in any manor. It really depends on the woman

Also, when did any sort of physical contact on a man's part become taboo. There's a difference between slapping her around a little bit and being physical in a fight. It seems like if a couple is fighting, the only proper course is for the man to handcuff himself because any sort of touching constitutes abuse. I've never been a relationship where a girl hasn't hit me when shes mad, but a guys not allowed to restrain her from getting hit. Men in this country are so warped
 
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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Yea, I want to bring back suffrage.

I know you were being sarcastic here, but I really think you should look up the definition of suffrage; it means the exact opposite of how you used it.

As for your OP, I would never in a million years marry someone that I felt had to be submissive to me. I want a real human being, not a bimbo who only exists to serve me. If I wanted that, I'd buy a midget.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
This wouldn't be an issue if everyone could just think of everyone else as equals rather than considering women, minorities, etc. to be inferior to you, the model of white male perfection.

No two people are equal.
And no two snowflakes are exactly alike, but that's not what he was getting at

I am saying that you can always think of something inferior about another person. In this world, there will never be a time where everyone believes their neighbors to be on equal ground.

Mankind is not a hivemind. We will never function flawlessly as a society, until we shed ourselves of our own will, which is to discard our own humanity.

what he is saying is you shouldn't think of someone as beneath you, and he's right. (unless they commit criminal acts or something like that). he makes a good point that the OP isn't regarding.
 

AstroManLuca

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Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
This wouldn't be an issue if everyone could just think of everyone else as equals rather than considering women, minorities, etc. to be inferior to you, the model of white male perfection.

No two people are equal.
And no two snowflakes are exactly alike, but that's not what he was getting at

I am saying that you can always think of something inferior about another person. In this world, there will never be a time where everyone believes their neighbors to be on equal ground.

Mankind is not a hivemind. We will never function flawlessly as a society, until we shed ourselves of our own will, which is to discard our own humanity.

There are obviously differences in ability, culture, intelligence, and other things when you compare one individual to another, but that's not the point. The point is that everyone has their own consciousness complete with emotions and it's wrong to consider one person less worthy of respect than another without a damn good reason. And being born a woman is not a damn good reason. Nor is being born a man (and while it's not as common, sexism against men is a real phenomenon too).
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: DAGTA
I note that the men in this thread feel grabbing a woman's arm makes it ok for her to kick him in the nuts. These men have been well trained by the feminist movement.

Depends on the grab and the situation. I still think that the more respectful (and preferable) option is to simply lay a hand on their shoulder and ask that they calm down.

ZV

Exactly. That's what I do and what my wife does to me if I get overly worked up about something.
 

Dumac

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
what he is saying is you shouldn't think of someone as beneath you, and he's right. (unless they commit criminal acts or something like that). he makes a good point that the OP isn't regarding.

I'm saying that will never happen. I'm also saying that a colorblind society will never exist.

Also, no where did he state that he believes women are beneath men.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: moshquerade
what he is saying is you shouldn't think of someone as beneath you, and he's right. (unless they commit criminal acts or something like that). he makes a good point that the OP isn't regarding.

I'm saying that will never happen. I'm also saying that a colorblind society will never exist.

Also, no where did he state that he believes women are beneath men.

I never said it would happen totally. there is no way the masses would embrace that even though it's a correct behavior. i did say that believing someone should submit to you is wrong, and that is what the OP has said. So yes, he is saying that women should submit to or aka be beneath men. (double entendre, i know :p