Originally posted by: ness1469
Originally posted by: tokamak
Originally posted by: ness1469
Ahhh!!! But you fail to realize that waiters and waitresses get paid a lesser salary because they make tips. I'm more than happy to tip them, because that's why they make usually less than half of the minimum wage. And again, I will be more than happy to tip more than the expected 15% if the service is above-standard. However, I'm not the kind of person to stiff someone a tip. I'm more happy complaining about the service and knowing something will get done than keeping food out of the mouths of a waitress.
As for bellhops and doormen... never had to deal with them. I guess we'll see should the situation arrive.
actually i do realize that. i have been a waiter. i made $2.13 an hour. my job was to take orders and serve drinks and food. by your earlier logic, that means you would not tip me for doing so. but now you say you would. that leads me to believe that what you really mean is that you tip those who make less than the minimum wage. so, hypothetically speaking, if they passed some law that allowed super market tellers to be paid $1 an hour, would you tip them as well? im so confused...
Gratuity is a restaurants way of saying that they are rewarding you for being able to get more customers in and out of their restaurant, thus earning them more money. So, in order to keep this process rolling, gratuity has become an expected part of restraunt dining. Federal and state (maybe just state?) say that if you work at a job where gratuity is a given, then the employer is only required to pay you half of minimum wage, and if you don't make up the difference in tips (which means making less than 3 dollars per hour) then the employer is required to pay the difference. Obviously, having been a waiter, you know this. I have no problem tiping at a place where tips are expected to make the difference between minimum wage and below the normal wage.
Which is exactly why I don't tip pizza people for standard service. They are already getting paid what they should be paid to do the job they are supposed to do. If they do any better, I will tip. But simply doing your job is nothing short of expected. If Pizza places fell into the category where they could employ people for half of minimum wage, then I would tip them everytime. But that is not the case.
Another example: On many military bases the grocery store baggers work for tips alone. No paycheck at all. I tip them, even if it's just a buck. Making one dollar for bagging groceries for a minute or two is well worth it. Better rate than the kids trying to save for college busting their humps at fast food restaurants. If the baggers were being paid, I would not tip, because they are already being paid to bag groceries. I don't see the logic behind paying them to do a job they are already being paid for. And, once again, if they go beyond the job they are being paid to do, I make sure they are paid for portion of the job they did.