Should I put my ex in jail on Christmas Day? **Update 12-27***

[Pepsei]

hasn't she been punished enough to be alone without you?

perhaps you can have her secretly arrested AFTER the visit, at the airport.

 

[kranky]

What is the purpose: to punish and humiliate the ex, or to keep the ex away from your daughter?

If it's to punish and humilate, what will that change?
If it's to keep her away, is it possible it could backfire? Could putting her in jail keep her in the country longer than she could stay otherwise?

I don't think putting her in jail is going to accomplish anything, except inspire your ex to take her craziness to a new level. But perhaps there is a good reason to do it, and I'm not seeing it.

 

[DougK62]

It's pretty obvious that alot of replies in here are from fund-a-mental-case people that haven't read the entire thread (or previous ones).

PM, assuming your stories are accurate, you should make sure your kid is away and ABSOLUTELY have the ex arrested when she shows up. Any parent that cares about their child would do the same. Your kid can decide how she wants to deal with her mother when she is older and more capable of handling things herself.

 

[alkemyst]

I hope you two revel in the long lasting effects your slugfest has on your daughter.

I am more and more thinking your ex may be the innocent one in all this despite your story otherwise.

If the courts believed she was a danger they would have made that so in the divorce that she has no access to the children.

Å

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: kranky
What is the purpose: to punish and humiliate the ex, or to keep the ex away from your daughter?

If it's to punish and humilate, what will that change?
If it's to keep her away, is it possible it could backfire? Could putting her in jail keep her in the country longer than she could stay otherwise?

I don't think putting her in jail is going to accomplish anything, except inspire your ex to take her craziness to a new level. But perhaps there is a good reason to do it, and I'm not seeing it.

Ex states she's moved back to the states to stay, and drug her double digit IQ husband with her.

My wife (who has a knack for reading people) suspects that she has emotionally beaten up her new husband so much that he sold his house in the UK to help her move back to the US, and that he's now so messed up from her he has lost any self esteem he may have had. I tend to agree with her assessment. I finally gave up on her ever making any sound decisions & stopped allowing her to move back in with me when I called it quits with her.

I suspect she'll get pissed @ him, and move back in with her parents in ~12 months, leaving him behind in their new home with no job & a mortgage in a foreign country. Hell, it'll be October or Nov of next year if I know her.

Also factor in that these are not wealthy people we're talking about here, we're talking about someone stupid enough to blow her retirement away while she's in her 40's and spend tens of thousands of dollars that she doesn't really have nor can afford to spend moving back & forth to another country.

 

[rahvin]

Pliable, Those commenting obviously haven't followed your story over the years. Throw her in jail and keep the kid away from her.

 

[Feanor727]

Dude, I haven't followed your story religiously, but two things tell me everything I need to know.

A. You were awarded custody of your child in the state of texas

B. The police and your lawyer are on board with this

For those of you who don't know, Texas is one of the most biased states when it comes to child-custody cases. They rule in favor of the mother over 95% of the time. Situation doesn't matter, the mother almost always gets the kids and a _huge_ child-support payment. So the simple fact that the courts have seen fit to award PM with his child and support payments says quite a bit about his character vs. the character of his ex.

On the flip side, if you have her put in jail it should serve some sort of purpose. As great as it would feel to have your sense of revenge fulfilled, I think you're a bigger person than that...

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: Feanor727
Dude, I haven't followed your story religiously, but two things tell me everything I need to know.

A. You were awarded custody of your child in the state of texas

B. The police and your lawyer are on board with this

For those of you who don't know, Texas is one of the most biased states when it comes to child-custody cases. They rule in favor of the mother over 95% of the time. Situation doesn't matter, the mother almost always gets the kids and a _huge_ child-support payment. So the simple fact that the courts have seen fit to award PM with his child and support payments says quite a bit about his character vs. the character of his ex.

On the flip side, if you have her put in jail it should serve some sort of purpose. As great as it would feel to have your sense of revenge fulfilled, I think you're a bigger person than that...

Lee (Pliablemoose) already has custody of their child after fighting in court with her for a few years.

Lee - if I were you I'd do it. Screw her.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Feanor727
Dude, I haven't followed your story religiously, but two things tell me everything I need to know.

A. You were awarded custody of your child in the state of texas

B. The police and your lawyer are on board with this

For those of you who don't know, Texas is one of the most biased states when it comes to child-custody cases. They rule in favor of the mother over 95% of the time. Situation doesn't matter, the mother almost always gets the kids and a _huge_ child-support payment. So the simple fact that the courts have seen fit to award PM with his child and support payments says quite a bit about his character vs. the character of his ex.

On the flip side, if you have her put in jail it should serve some sort of purpose. As great as it would feel to have your sense of revenge fulfilled, I think you're a bigger person than that...

Actually, the stats in Texas are worse, in 99% of disputed custody cases in Texas where the child is under the age of 10 are resolved in the favor of the woman.

BTW, I love the results of this poll, it helps me deal with the ambivalence I have, & it's nice to see the steady 70% + or - a few points throughout the poll.

<---Am I an attention whore yet?😎

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Feanor727
Dude, I haven't followed your story religiously, but two things tell me everything I need to know.

A. You were awarded custody of your child in the state of texas

B. The police and your lawyer are on board with this

For those of you who don't know, Texas is one of the most biased states when it comes to child-custody cases. They rule in favor of the mother over 95% of the time. Situation doesn't matter, the mother almost always gets the kids and a _huge_ child-support payment. So the simple fact that the courts have seen fit to award PM with his child and support payments says quite a bit about his character vs. the character of his ex.

On the flip side, if you have her put in jail it should serve some sort of purpose. As great as it would feel to have your sense of revenge fulfilled, I think you're a bigger person than that...

Actually, the stats in Texas are worse, in 99% of disputed custody cases in Texas where the child is under the age of 10 are resolved in the favor of the woman.

BTW, I love the results of this poll, it helps me deal with the ambivalence I have, & it's nice to see the steady 70% + or - a few points throughout the poll.

<---Am I an attention whore yet?😎

If she had done what you say, then you really have no choice but to arrest her. I was never familiar with your story, but reading past threads and the rest of this one told me plenty. Just make sure it doesn't happen if front of your daughter.

Good luck.

 

[Ryan]

DO IT! 😀

 

[opticalmace]

I was gonna say it wouldn't be of much help to your daughter's life, but in finding out she attempted to secretly take your daughter out of the country, twice, I most heartedly agree that you fry that b!tch.

 

[speg]

Umm, is this really a good idea? For one, it's really really mean. I don't know the whole story, but by doing this do you not think it will just anger her more? And then she'll continue her ways / try to retalliate, I mean can't you just let it go and move on? Two wrongs don't make a right, and setting up this trap, on Xmas day? You'll be put on Santa's naughty list right beside her.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: speg
Umm, is this really a good idea? For one, it's really really mean. I don't know the whole story, but by doing this do you not think it will just anger her more? And then she'll continue her ways / try to retalliate, I mean can't you just let it go and move on? Two wrongs don't make a right, and setting up this trap, on Xmas day? You'll be put on Santa's naughty list right beside her.

Are you ten years old?

 

[Karsten]

People people people...

All this pseudo discussion if it is heartless to send someone to jail on Christmas... facts are simply this:

- The woman BROKE THE LAW
- The woman HAS OUTSTANDING WARRANTS
- The woman TRIED TO KIDNAP A CHILD (Don't care if she gave birth to it...)

Are we getting so politically correct that we are giving a free get out of jail card to anyone just because it is Christmas?!

I am a Christian. I celebrate that holiday to the best of my ability and try to make it pleasant to my kids and whole family. But if someone in my immediate family had EARNED JAILTIME... (and I don't decide who earns it or not, THE LAW DOES) ... then I'd do my best that JUSTICE is catching up regardless of time of year. It has nothing to do with being heartless, self righteous or mean. As a citizen of this country it is YOUR DUTY to obey the law and help the law BEING ENFORCED.

People that call Moose heartless or unfair or whatever have no idea what they are talking about. Family that is shielding or helping a abusive "parent" are NO BETTER then the abuser.

Do everyone a favor Moose and take the opportunity. Who knows... maybe she gets some counseling in jail of finds Jesus. She needs some serious alone time and think her life over in any case!

 

[xSauronx]

get rid of the lady, if she sees the kid shes gonna bitch and moan, and make the kid
bitch and moan to you
about you
or about the mother

i would not desire myself or my child to see such a person on christmas day, bah

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: TwinkleToes77
Even though shes no 'real' mother, I think your child deserves to see her. She may be a bitch but shes still her mom and always will be.

I dunno, I think the word "mom" kind of has to be earned. I know, she will always be the childs birth parent, but was she really ever a mother?(thats in the sense of caring, etc. for the child) I don't know this situation enough to say, but looks that way.

^^I agree^^...biology does not a Mom make. If she is as horrid a person as you make her out to be, follow legal advice. For your daughter's sake....

 

[phonemonkey]

Originally posted by: Karsten

Are we getting so politically correct that we are giving a free get out of jail card to anyone just because it is Christmas?!

If so, I know where I'm gonna go shoplifting from... 😉

Speg, from what he's told us so far, his ex seems to be bringing all of this on herself. Since she's tried to kidnap the kid 2x (and take her out of the country), I'd say that the mother is a danger already to the child. He's got every right to try to protect his child, and hopefully he'll excerise those rights.

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Karsten
People people people...

All this pseudo discussion if it is heartless to send someone to jail on Christmas... facts are simply this:

- The woman BROKE THE LAW
- The woman HAS OUTSTANDING WARRANTS
- The woman TRIED TO KIDNAP A CHILD (Don't care if she gave birth to it...)

Are we getting so politically correct that we are giving a free get out of jail card to anyone just because it is Christmas?!

I am a Christian. I celebrate that holiday to the best of my ability and try to make it pleasant to my kids and whole family. But if someone in my immediate family had EARNED JAILTIME... (and I don't decide who earns it or not, THE LAW DOES) ... then I'd do my best that JUSTICE is catching up regardless of time of year. It has nothing to do with being heartless, self righteous or mean. As a citizen of this country it is YOUR DUTY to obey the law and help the law BEING ENFORCED.

People that call Moose heartless or unfair or whatever have no idea what they are talking about. Family that is shielding or helping a abusive "parent" are NO BETTER then the abuser.

Do everyone a favor Moose and take the opportunity. Who knows... maybe she gets some counseling in jail of finds Jesus. She needs some serious alone time and think her life over in any case!

how about cliff notes on what she did? what law did she break? what warrents? etc?

 

[FelixDeCat]

Love the Auto-Ban Skoorb option! I voted for that. Too much Nissan fanboism going on there for me.

But hey-

Women have guys thrown in jail at the drop of hat. Sometimes just for the hell of it. Throw her in the cooler I say, but remember she'll get out one day. :evil:

Good luck!

 

[PunDogg]

yes put her in jail, DO IT!!!

DOgg

 

[Karsten]

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: Karsten
People people people...

All this pseudo discussion if it is heartless to send someone to jail on Christmas... facts are simply this:

- The woman BROKE THE LAW
- The woman HAS OUTSTANDING WARRANTS
- The woman TRIED TO KIDNAP A CHILD (Don't care if she gave birth to it...)

Are we getting so politically correct that we are giving a free get out of jail card to anyone just because it is Christmas?!

I am a Christian. I celebrate that holiday to the best of my ability and try to make it pleasant to my kids and whole family. But if someone in my immediate family had EARNED JAILTIME... (and I don't decide who earns it or not, THE LAW DOES) ... then I'd do my best that JUSTICE is catching up regardless of time of year. It has nothing to do with being heartless, self righteous or mean. As a citizen of this country it is YOUR DUTY to obey the law and help the law BEING ENFORCED.

People that call Moose heartless or unfair or whatever have no idea what they are talking about. Family that is shielding or helping a abusive "parent" are NO BETTER then the abuser.

Do everyone a favor Moose and take the opportunity. Who knows... maybe she gets some counseling in jail of finds Jesus. She needs some serious alone time and think her life over in any case!

how about cliff notes on what she did? what law did she break? what warrents? etc?

The Cliff Notes where posted on page 4 by jester79

 

[Ulfwald]

I say that the woman deserves to go to jail. My next door neighbor is a single father who has sole custody of his daughter. The ex has no parental rights, and has been ordered by the judge to stay away, no contact whatsoever. She disobeyed that order at christmas (sometime ago in the past), and he called the cops. She spent Christmas in jail awaiting her trial.

She broke the law, there is a warrant for her arrest, she is a nut case. Jail time for her. Holiday or not, she goes to jail in my book.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Let her see the girl - supervised.

Have the law pick her up afterwards.

The girl deserves a chance to see her mother - why punish the child.

 

[Gyrene]

If she has done something to warrant an arrest, the day should not matter. The law does not take a holiday. I think it is wise not to make a big deal out of it, and have her arrested discretely. My vote is yes, if she has done something to warrant it, and no, if you just want revenge.