Should I give it back?? *edited*

[revnja]

Obviously, this kid doesn't really seem to give a sh*t. Too bad for him. He'll work his job at McDonalds, go home and play CS till 4am, then more McDonalds, etc. in an neverending loop until he dies. He needs to realize that his grades matter, and there's time later for that PC.

 

[eakers]

you don't get it do you?

taking the computer away isn't going to solve anything. maybe you or your parents should try HELPING HIM develop good study habits and helping him with his homework and TALKING TO HIS TEACHTERS.

 

[kyparrish]

lol @ this thread and the pic of report card

 

[mztykal]

Dude, if you took my shiet away from me you'd regret it. Don't take stuff away from him for not doing good in school. Sheesh.

Oh well that's your deal not mine. But damn, stealing his comp, that's cold.

 

[aznman]

wow im 15 and i understand whats going on from both sides soooo....sirplayalot u are a little whiny girl and u know if u put 75% of what u do in gaming u would get decent grades in school (B average, maybe high C). zayened, dont take away his whole computer. but if u do. dont use it at work. lock it up some where and tell him that u wont be using it which u wont. What u could do is say "listen u little b*tch, i pitched in **** for this PC and i want **** back and sence u dont have the money to give me im taking ur 6800gt (or w/e is important around the price range u pitched in) and im keeping it(but of corse if it is the 6800 gt u should give it to me). Well thats what i would do.

EDIT: hey i broke the 200 post point! throw myself a party and none of u are invited

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: aznman

EDIT: hey i broke the 200 post point! throw myself a party and none of u are invited

Sucks to be us, I suppose...

 

[Finalnight]

way to go op. My older brother did that when I was a kid, he agreed to build me my first system if I got 2 straight A's in math, I did. And he agreed to let me keep my system as long as I stayed b or higher in math, everything worked out just fine.

 

[Safeway]

Poor guy.

 

[dbzwukan]

Wow, a lot of you guys are dicks. Notfred is right. I agree with him 100%

 

[knyghtbyte]

Ok, if this thread is for real i would say the OP has the right to take away the puter if more of it belongs to him, if not sell it and split the moolah......the OP doesnt have the right to take it away due to grades, your a brother, not a parent. The younger brother needs to sort his act out, get studying and limit your playtime yourself, if you dont think you can, then ask someone in your family keep a look out for you to make sure you are not wasting study time on a particular evening.
Im 27, i couldnt finish my study due to medical problems with my back and joints, i spent years working crap jobs in pubs, warehouses, print shops etc earning less money than a 94 year old pro.......Finally after 8 years of leaving school i found the job im in which started out earning not a massive amount of money, but more than the previous jobs by around 40%, now im earning 4 times that after having been here 4 years. So yes its possible to flunk your exams and still end up with a life, but only if where you live permits it, if your stuck in a city/town with very little around then you gonna be scraping chicken sh!t in a yard.....if your in a major city then you might end up with a data input job that could lead somewhere.
But best bet? enhance your grades, and choose your path carefully, dont take higher education that looks easy to pass, quite often it still leads to crap jobs.

However this thread could be a load of bull....if so it was very funny to read the debate

And now im leaving work for the day, time to go home and die in CS: Source
(my 3rd day playing....hehe, damn im hooked.....)

 

[stevty2889]

Tell him you will let him have it back, if he is willing to study harder and improve his grades. If after giving it back, his grades fail to improve, and he doesn't study any harder, then take it back, and keep it until he does.

 

[zayened]

knyghtbyte, this thread is very real, why wouldn't it be???

 

[Cross]

Originally posted by: ohtwell
I think he should have to suffer the consequences of his bad grades. I'm not sure that it is your responsibility to enforce the consequences though. Not giving him back his computer might work in getting him to try harder, but it probably won't. Many kids don't respond to having things taken away. They tend to just get pissed and get even worse. Give him back the computer, and tell him that you hope he makes the right decisions about studying. It's up to him whether or not he wants to do well in school. You can't force him to study and do his homework. Try to help him as much as you can, but don't punish him for being a slacker. Eventually it will hit him.

I agree with others who have said that you are a good big brother. It's sweet that you care so much and I'm sure he appreciates that.


: ) Amanda

Many kids now do not respond to having things taken away and this is because parenting has changed. Now they throw fits and nothing happens I remember getting the you just wait till we get home and I knew there was no way out my butt got whipped and I dealt with it. If you got something taken away it was gone, thats all there is to it.

Now yes you may see that as not working but the underlying problems is your not following through, the kid is rebelling and saying ok I will do something worse, then you tighten the rains more. If you let this contiue do you every think raising this child will be easier? The "When I say NO I mean NO" needs to be instilled from a very young age starting around 3. Spanking is up to you I think that to many kids today are.... well shooting eachother, taking guns to school, back talking and basically causing problems. I have seen to many things to make me say, these kids get what they want, do what they want and I would have gotten beat for almost all of the things they do to there parents. Plus I hate to ssay it but many of them are lazy, we all can be. But I have seen more I don't cares then even I rememeber. There is what seems no guidence or enforcement of any rules. The kids have figured out if they push hard enough they get there way. The comment above unfortantly highlights this. This is what is causing more problems, the "Let the kid decided" Since when did a 5 yr old know what to eat for breakfast? If he see's candy he will eat it. If a 15 yr old does not have to do homework, you think they are going to do it on there own? 90% of the time, thats a big NO. Kids have to understand that this only works with mom and dad but they do not and they get into the real world and they either find out that that just does not work or they go from job to job and employeers just keep booting them because they do not have to deal with it they are not the parents of these kids.

You have done the right thing, and its hard for me to say because while it was a little different for me I lost my NES a few times and I hated it, that was what we had (besides the old Epson 386 Computer with no HD). So while it may be hard, your doing the right thing, and it seems that many here agree, I vote with them as well. Good job your a good caring brother.

Now I know that I generalized I do not mean to its for the benifet of the quote above, there are those still being raised the way I was or other ways, so please understand I did not mean anything against you I know not everyone is the same ^-^.

 

[Cross]

Originally posted by: sirplayalot

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
In typical ATOT fashion 4/5 of the voters wish to see your brother's punishment continue. It is sad that they have nothing better to do then wish others ill. :thumbsdown:

So true..half of them prolly dont remember what it was like to be a kid or half prolly didnt have big brother!

I had 2 step sisters who were just flat out evil and hated me, when i met all their family they attacked me with water ballons and before I could get them back (As the rest of the family wanted me to) There mom got mad and said they were only playing so I got to go home all wet while they laughed about it and my dad did nothing. I was like 12. And I can go on, I got hit by my step father, (Fists more then one occasion) My real sister (half sister) who lived with me until she was old enough to move out was more then evil. We still can go at it sometimes but we have grown up. And we all remember and see how things progressed and that everyone has to deal with this stuff, not just you.

Everyone has some bad moments, but we remember what its like to be a kid. We also see what taking the easy way out got us, you do not. Until you see that, hell most of us would love to just have to deal with peer presure and not, hmm I have to go to work, deal with that then my money is mostly gone to bills and I still have school so I can try to make more money and my car is breaking down and I need to move, and I need food for the house. Until you see what its like to lose all the things your used to your not going to realize that he may like to torment you but on this grounds, you need to stop complaining and accept that you messed up.

I still mess up, I have a bad habit of having to buy things when I have money and I have sold many things here to save my butt, things happen but you make sure you correct them.

 

[nguyendot1]

My brother had the same problem. That and his attitude. He'd always get pissed when I asked him to do ANYTHING because he was too busy playing video games online to take out the trash or clean up his room. Yeah restricting the MAC address on his computer to the wireless router solved that real quick. No internet made his computer all but useless. It works, I know. I was there, failing classes because of the original counterstrike in my freshman year of college. Now that the addiction is gone, so are my bad grades. Self control is the name of the game, but if you don't have it, which you obviously don't sirplayalot, your brother is going to have to do the controlling for you.

 

[PKPunk]

I don't know if you live with your brother or not but I'd say give it back to him...but setup up xp on it and give him a account that doesn't have full administrative rights on it. Lock down the system as much as you feel you need to. I'd say just put a time range that he's allowed to login to the system. I mean he can't get too pissed cause he still use he computer, but the time range will force to manage his time better. But on the other hand, if you don't live with him I bet he'll just wipe out windows and restall it. It's been a long time since I messed with system permissions but I remember good'ol nt 4 let you do a time range.

 

[MrDudeMan]

so why dont you tell us what your parents are doing?

i fully support what your brother has done sirplayalot. i wish my sisters would have done that to me, but unlike you ever will, i got my act together on my own...just took me 1 report card with a C on it to kick my ass into shape. it seems you have no aspirations or dreams, sucks for you, but if you even had a half functioning brainstem you would thank your brother for what he is doing.


to all you morons crying "you arent his parent!" STFU^100000. his brother, regardless of his motives (which, for the record, i think are sound) he is doing his younger brother a HUGE favor. if his parents are so lame that they cant punish him then it is his brothers responsibility to look out for him.

dont give that computer back until you see Cs or better.

 

[gabemcg]

I like the give it back piece-by-piece suggestion, all my little bro does is play worlds of warcraft, and never studies. I think his grades are decent, but he needs to develop good habits, that was my problem. but I suppose everyone has to make their own mistakes...

 

[sxr7171]

People think they're entitled to a free living these days. Whoever paid for that computer should get to keep it and if it was given in good faith, that faith has already been broken. He needs to earn that faith back to even think of getting that computer back that's if the OP even wants to give it back. The PS2 should be given back if the little bro paid for it, but everything that the OP paid for should be kept by the OP and maybe people will realize that nobody is due a living for simply existing.

A lot of people are wondering what the parents are doing, but I've seen first hand how absolutely clueless some parents can be about dealing with the younger generation and their problems. Sometimes the older brother is in a better position to provide the motivation and support a kid needs these days. Sometimes parents aren't good at being consistent in reinforcing positive behaviors and disapproving negative behaviors. After all if anyone created this spoilt brat it was probably the parents (although the OP by just giving this spoilt brat a computer on a silver platter played a good part too).

 

[g8wayrebel]

No way would I give it back. We all have to have priorties, and his certainly aren't where they need to be. If you can use the computer to show him there are consequences to his actions then you should do so.

 

[imported_thomash]

Swap his gfx card for a 8mb card......... ----------->>>>>>>>> NO GAMES

 

[Thoreau]

Originally posted by: BriGy86
from what i know the thread creater payed for most of the computer

and the other guy has bad grades, do what ever you want with the computer you payed for it

if anything only give him back the parts he payed for until he gets better grades

highschool isn't that hard quit being a lazy mofo

Must be, since your spelling has certainly 'payed' the price for it.

 

[Finalnight]

Originally posted by: LordSnailz
I would return the computer if he gets B's, going from F to A is extremely hard ... he should also understand why it's impt. to get good grades. Just ask him how he'll feel once all his friends are in college and he's left behind in a JC ...

Whats wrong with a two year college? I am attending one as part of a 2 & 2 program (2 year community college, then 2 years at a university to finish up my BS in Computer Engineering), allows me to get my generals done for half the cost.

 

[tbrooks40]

Originally posted by: zayened
yeah, his problem is that he always whines and b!tches until he gets what he wants, and then he never learns things the hard way.

Originally posted by: g8wayrebel
No way would I give it back. We all have to have priorties, and his certainly aren't where they need to be. If you can use the computer to show him there are consequences to his actions then you should do so.

hang on there big bro - you are way out of line imo... and your last comment tells me there's probably more to this than just the grades...

you don't "GIVE" anyone anything with a bunch of conditions attached... this is more of a "Lease" or something b/c you sure as he|| can't give someone something and EVER think you have the right to do what YOU want to do with it.

maybe you are using the wrong language? did you "GIVE" him this computer or did you "LET HIM USE YOUR computer?

now, if you "GAVE" him this computer with these stipulations attached at the time you "GAVE" it to him, then yes, you have every right to take it from him according to whatever agreement you two had.

now although his parents don't seem to care too much (at this point anyways) it would be them, and them only, who has the right to take this kind of action. i could surely understand them yanking his pc but not you brother.

again, if you actually gave him this pc then don't think you have any right to do anything with it in shape, form, or fashion. if you let him use your gaming rig then of course take it until he gets his sh!t together!

oh yeah, i'm just curious, but are you two full or half - brothers? do you have the same mom and pop?

Originally posted by: zayened
YOU are WORRIED about your grades???????? :roll: thats the funniest thing i have yet to read. and try telling the truth about the financials of the pc. you put in exactly ZERO dollars, and my brother, sister and I helped put the system together. Since then, ALL you've been doing is getting home from school at 3:50 PM, and sitting at the computer until 2 AM. no schoolwork at all. if you are that worried about your grades, try studying for even ONE hour. and like they said, if you need any help studying/doing your work, let me know!! I graduated high school with a 3.8 GPA. and so what if i dropped out of college, i run my own business and am more than financially stable you dumb*ss. when you get to be where i'm at, then you can drop out of school!

...the reason i even ask is b/c your comment above almost sounds like you had a separate set of brothers and sisters? not that it matters. heck, i wouldn't be too quick to claim him either with those grades!

like everyone has said little brudda - you need to get your act together and fast! this pc will be nothing but a distraction to you as you obviously have what you need to do any schoolwork with the laptop you're on now.

 

[oogabooga]

i dunno bout taking it away, but discilpline must be enforced. Don't think that one action will suddenly set him straight, that's such a lazy approach. IF you really want him to improve in school, you'll have to invest time and perhaps even money into it. If you're not willing to take the time to tutor him, or hire a tutor and ensure he works, then don't bother taking away his computer, since you're not contributing to the solution

btw: I haven't been on ATOT forever like some Lifers, but good God, this is the first time i think i've seen sibling bickering on AT, actually on ANY forum.

Cheers, and merry new years.