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Sheehan's protest increasing war support

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Hey. Haven't we been told that it's only the fringe pimping the Sheehan story? That's what people keep saying in here.

Oh, wait, it's BBond and arsbanned.

OK. I'll concede that point.
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Hey. Haven't we been told that it's only the fringe pimping the Sheehan story? That's what people keep saying in here.

Oh, wait, it's BBond and arsbanned.

OK. I'll concede that point.
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Hey, haven't we been told that it's only administration shills pimping Bush's lies? That's what people keep saying in here.

Oh, wait, it's the chicken.

OK. Everyone will concede that point.
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I don't have to refute the fact that Sheehan's an unhinged nutcase, much like you. Your words prove it.
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The same could be said of you with far more documentation in your posts on this forum. :laugh:
 
Public support for the War has died in the wake of the administrations lies being exposed.

No amount of blowing smoke up the people's ass is going to resurect support, even though the ignorant continue to run free with the lemings.
 
Originally posted by: outriding
Dumbest anology ever.

we are in thier country the nazi's were in other countries.
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I think alot of ppl here could use a good lesson in american history, doesn't anybody remember the british soldiers in america , oh yes ppl like George Washington are heroes in our sights but the ppl in Iraq are terrorists why ? Well maybe because they are Muslims , give that a thought ?
 
Do you know what the difference is between the young generation now and the young generation that demanded the U.S. stop the Vietnam War?

The draft.

If all of the armchair soldiers and patriots who sit behind their computers playing video games knew that they were going to basic when high school or college was over, and then off to Iraq, they'd have a very different view of Bush's invasion, I guarantee.

But there is no draft so they can attack a woman whose son died for Bush's lies while they defend those lies because it really doesn't matter to them at all. They're safe.

Best of both worlds.

"America, FVCK YEAH!" -- with none of those risks usually involved with war. Just keep recycling those same poor bastards over there until the day they come back on a late night flight to Dover or to some VA hospital where the doctors try to put them back together again.

Go ahead, mock a Gold Star Mom who has nothing left but her love for her son, her memories, and her committment to him that she will do all that she can to save every other mother's son or daughter that she can from Bush's lies, no matter what it takes.

God bless Cindy Sheehan.
 
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: jjsole
Anyone who links to the New York Times should be banned.
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Fixed
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is this a new pattern of attacking the source rather than the content now?

what's an acceptable news source to post articles from in your eyes?
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: jjsole
Anyone who links to the New York Times should be banned.
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is this a new pattern of attacking the source rather than the content now?

what's an acceptable news source to post articles from in your eyes?
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No print news source is acceptable. These people don't read. He thinks the fat pill popping hypocrite junkie is a news source.

 
Originally posted by: loki8481
is this a new pattern of attacking the source rather than the content now?

what's an acceptable news source to post articles from in your eyes?
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Look at the left and newsmax.
 
Originally posted by: zendari
Casey in heaven calls Bush idiot

Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan is now purportedly "channeling" her slain son, Casey, from heaven, suggesting he's calling President Bush "an idiot," and she claims to have "tens of thousands of angels" supporting her cause to bring home immediately American troops serving in Iraq.

"When I get up [to heaven], he's gonna say, 'Good job, mom,'" the California woman said in a speech last night upon her return to Crawford, Texas. "He's not going to say, 'Why'd you make me spin in my grave?' you know. And I can just hear him saying, 'George Bush, you are really an idiot. You didn't know what you were doing when you killed me. You didn't know what you were getting into
She publicly thanked her son as well as others who died in the Iraq War, and claimed to have the backing of Casey and others who dwell in the afterlife.

"I know that they are in heaven," Sheehan said, "and I know that that's why this movement is growing because we have tens of thousands of angels behind us that are supporting us, that are saying, 'Well, you know we died and that was really crappy, but we hope that our deaths are going to make the world a better place,' and it's up to us to make sure that it does."

Sheehan has referred to her son as an angel, stating in an Aug. 5 speech, Casey "became an angel while I was sleeping."



LMAO! :laugh: What a raving lunatic!



Sheehan lackey assaults cameraman

While news cameras were filming the event, Marine Jeff Key physically grabbed a cameraman from San Francisco local affiliate KGO. Key objected to the cameraman?s shooting position, which was on the same site where the protesters have erected crosses listing the names of fallen soldiers in Iraq. Here's a photo from right before the altercation took place:


Hmm, this brings back memories of the violent liberals back around election day. I myself had my car smashed because of a small bumper sticker.



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Cindy Sheehan, the so-called Peace Mom seeking a second meeting with President Bush in connection with the Iraq War death of her son, says terrorists killing Americans are "freedom fighters."

She made the remark during her trek earlier this month to Crawford, Texas; but her equating the enemy with freedom fighters has not been highlighted by the mainstream media, despite her telling it directly to a reporter for CBS News.

Sheehan's comments were recorded on video by Veterans for Peace, a group pushing for Bush's impeachment. (Editor's note: The video of Cindy Sheehan is approximately 30 minutes long, and requires several minutes to load, even with a high-speed connection.)

"You know that the president says Iraq is the central front in the war on terrorism, don't you believe that?" asked Mark Knoller of CBS, surrounded by a host of other reporters.


Was Hitler was a freedom fighter too? Probably yes according to Cindy Sheehan since she hates Jewish people.

It's quite evident that Cindy isn't on the side of the troops and is indeed wishes that our troops are killed.

What if one of these people strapped a bomb on and blew your family up Cindy? Would they be freedom fighters too?
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Wow, how easy it is to come up with examples, here is one :

What if one day some japanese guy goes over to your place and blows you up and your entire entire neighbourhood , because he realised his entire family inclluding him and lots of ppl he knows are mutated becasue of the A bomb that was used 60 years ago.

How can you call Cindy Cheehan a lunatic, is that the new naming for ppl who stand against what they think is wrong, how would you have felt if you have lost your son to some BS like this, while all those big-time politiscians have their sons crusing around in some $ 200,000 sports car meanwhile your kid is in hostile lands being shattered into fragments because he is in the wrong place a place he didn't have much option of not going to in the 1st place, you ignorant idiot, I have a message for you and all those who call themselves war supporters If you think she is a lunatic and our government is fighting for the right cause ok , then by all means go enlist in the army and prove to me how much you beleive in your cause, but NO nowadays ppl have a smart answer for this kind of demand " I can serve my country in other ways" oh really, STFU !!!! The army is desperate for every single soldier they can get their hands on, sorry I can't see you serving your country in some other way than that.
Oh yeah do you think most of those in Iraq right now ever thought they would end up in there, they just thought they can get some scholarship, through joining the National Gaurd and serving in the army but inside the US at least not in a warzone, thats the army that is in there it's a bunch of guys that are mostly 18-25, and can't beleive that they fell for a scholarship trap, I was approached by a recruiter in a mall
a while ago, and as usual I allowed him to go on and on, and then when he got to the scholarship part, I told him, well do you think I will live to use those SCHOLARSH!TS / BENESH!TS you guys have to offer me ? Plus if I beleived in this war I wouldn't have needed you to trap me in this mall inorder to serve my country you would have found me on the battlefront , right now most countries in the world are serving my country and supplying it with lives and oil too.
 
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: BBond

That's all I need to know about U.
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So says the defender of the liberal NYT.
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Here's something you should read from the "paper of record," young Zendari.

BTW, when are you going to the front line? Or doesn't your support extend that far?

In the Struggle Over the Iraq War, Women Are on the Front Line

By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: August 29, 2005

WASHINGTON

As President Bush traveled around the country last week, he got caught up in a battle of women.

Women - mothers and widows of men killed in Iraq - were the most vocal leaders of antiwar protests in Texas, Idaho and Utah that dogged Mr. Bush all week. Another woman, Tammy Pruett, whose husband and five sons have served in Iraq, was showcased by the White House as a pro-war counterpoint.

The tableau was a striking change from the 1960's protests against the Vietnam War, when the demonstrations were largely led by young men, who were subject to the draft. Although mothers protested that war too, they were not in the forefront of the movement.

What happened in 40 years? How has that changed how the White House responds?

In interviews last week, some of the female protesters suggested that decades of feminism had pushed them more easily into leadership and public speaking roles in the antiwar vigils inspired by Cindy Sheehan, the mother of a slain soldier, who is demanding to meet with Mr. Bush in a protest outside his ranch. But they also viewed the war through the traditional prism of mothers and wives, and said that women felt the pain of loss more intensely than men.

"There's a certain ferocity in motherhood," said Celeste Zappala of Philadelphia, a co-founder of Ms. Sheehan's antiwar group, Gold Star Families for Peace, and the mother of Sgt. Sherwood Baker, a national guardsman. Sergeant Baker was killed in Baghdad in April 2004 while protecting the Iraq Survey Group, which was searching for large unconventional weapons.

Ms. Zappala, who protested against the Vietnam War in college and was a main speaker at an antiwar demonstration in Salt Lake City on Monday, added: "Maybe women feel more compelled, more empowered. Maybe it's because men in our country don't speak so easily about things that are personal and so hard."

Jean Prewitt of Birmingham, Ala., whose son, Pvt. Kelley Prewitt, died in Iraq in April 2003, said her former husband, Kelley's father, went back to work soon after their son died. "I was just a basket case," she said, adding that "we gave birth to these boys, and they didn't."

Ms. Prewitt said she voted for Mr. Bush in 2000 and initially supported the war, but turned against it after no unconventional weapons were found. "The first year I was rather numb, and then I got angry," she said.

Ms. Sheehan and the other protesters are financed in part by antiwar organizations and advised by Fenton Communications, a public relations firm based in Washington that counts advocacy groups like MoveOn.org and TrueMajority among its clients. They resent it, the protesters said, when their opponents call them agents of the left.

"I may be a grieving mother, but I'm not stupid," said Ms. Zappala, who runs a city program for the elderly in Philadelphia. "No one has to tell me what to say. And if people help me amplify myself, God bless them."

At the Texas White House, Ms. Sheehan's protests have been closely watched, and the mood there is one of concern but not yet alarm. Mr. Bush has been careful not to go on a direct attack against a publicly grieving mother like Ms. Sheehan, and has pointed out that he met with her once already, in 2004, and that he has sympathy for her and her right to protest. Still, he said last week that protesters like her were weakening the United States and emboldening terrorists, and vowed that he would not immediately withdraw all American troops from Iraq, as she has demanded.

Then, in an effort to counter the protesting women with one of their own, Mr. Bush told 9,500 military families in a speech in Nampa, Idaho, about Ms. Pruett, who has four sons serving in the National Guard in Iraq and a husband and another son who have returned from Iraq. "America lives in freedom because of families like the Pruetts," Mr. Bush said, to big applause.

In a telephone interview on Friday from her home in Pocatello, Idaho, Ms. Pruett said that the White House learned of her story through two programs on CNN. This past weekend, a picture of Mr. Bush hugging Ms. Pruett was at the top of the home page of the White House Web site.

Ms. Sheehan's supporters immediately pointed out that while there are mothers who have lost children in Iraq who still support the president, Ms. Pruett had lost none and should not be compared with them.

"Actually, I would agree with them completely," Ms. Pruett said. "I have not experienced what they experienced, and I wouldn't judge how they chose to express their grief."

Will Ms. Sheehan's movement spread? The historian Doris Kearns Goodwin, whose son, Lt. Joseph K. Goodwin, served with the First Armored Division in Baghdad, said that it was too soon to judge, and that much depended on what happened in Iraq over the next weeks. "But if more mothers and more women connect to the losses over there, it could move like wildfire across the country," Ms. Goodwin said.

Ms. Goodwin said that as hard as it was for the White House to respond to the women, it was harder to be the commander-in-chief responsible for the losses, something she learned from conversations with Lyndon Johnson after Vietnam. "He said he would wake up in the middle of the night worrying about what had happened to the bombs and who had died," she said. "It's an emotional thing for these guys, as much as we think they're stalwarts."

As for Mr. Bush, she said, "I suspect he's asking himself, 'Why didn't I just meet with her in the beginning' " of her summer protest.
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To copy a favorite post of mine:

TIN FOIL BEANY ALERT!!! TIN FOIL BEANY ALERT!!! It's another POS from the New York Times! :shocked:

:cookie: :roll: :laugh: Buahahaha! :laugh: :roll: :cookie:

BBond -- You're a pathetic joke. 😛
 
Originally posted by: zendari
To copy a favorite post of mine:

TIN FOIL BEANY ALERT!!! TIN FOIL BEANY ALERT!!! It's another POS from the New York Times! :shocked:

:cookie: :roll: :laugh: Buahahaha! :laugh: :roll: :cookie:

BBond -- You're a pathetic joke. 😛
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When are you joining up, Zendari???

You support Bush and his invasion. Are you going to let the same few people go through the meat grinder over and over again while you play video games and make believe you're winning the war on terrorism?

 
Originally posted by: zendari

BBond -- You're a pathetic joke. 😛
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In the bizarro world of insolent, ignorant children, Newsmax > The New York Times, and Zendari > BBond. Fortunately most of us outgrow this kind of silliness.
 
Zendari, you have the nerve to talk about a pathetic joke, you useless wimp, while people are dying for the lies you defend you sit comfortably behind your computer giving all of your support (in spirit) to all of those troops being killed and maimed because people like you support a liar and a fool because you are liars and fools.
 
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