I don't think she could have once she started. You see, when someone seeks out media attention and then proceeds to make comments about herself and her family(ie: their supposed support) she made the focus about herself. She can try all she wants to change it now but she broke the dam.
I don't think she could have once she started. You see, when someone seeks out media attention and then proceeds to make comments about herself and her family(ie: their supposed support) she made the focus about herself. She can try all she wants to change it now but she broke the dam.
Non-partisan?
OK, so let me get this straight - all she wanted is to verbally assult Bush about how he "murdered" her son, but yet now she's going after Delay? Seems to me that this whole house of cards she's built is crumbling down and her true nature is now more than evident. She's bought into the mainstream left's propaganda and now is hitting on any and all talking points she can.
Can we now finally put to rest this asinine notion that sheehan was just doing this to get to talk to Bush about her son? I can't wait until the press starts ignoring here like they should have as soon as the usual suspects showed up and started choreograph things.
OK, so let me get this straight - all she wanted is to verbally assult Bush about how he "murdered" her son, but yet now she's going after Delay? Seems to me that this whole house of cards she's built is crumbling down and her true nature is now more than evident. She's bought into the mainstream left's propaganda and now is hitting on any and all talking points she can.
Can we now finally put to rest this asinine notion that sheehan was just doing this to get to talk to Bush about her son? I can't wait until the press starts ignoring here like they should have as soon as the usual suspects showed up and started choreograph things.
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for the love of your silly heavenly babysitter let her go into the night peacefully. if you ignore her, she may not go away but we don't have to listen to her and her idiot opponents anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111eleventy
umbrella39
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:thumbsup: Good for her! You can keep attacking the messenger all you want and even if the neocons are successful in making her go away (pst, which by the way you won't), the fire has already been lit.
Time to secure the country and bring our troops home. Thank you Cindy, you are a great American!
The messenger is irrelevant(she could be Jane Fonda for all I care) and not being attacked(although she brought the spotlight on herself) - her "message" is though. The "messege" has developed into much more than just a greiving mother trying to make hersolf feel better by taking her anger out on Bush. It's developed into a wide ranging collection of the usual "messages" of the left(some of which used to be shunned by the mainstream left and relegated to the extremist edge but now seem to be embraced by them) So I agree, attacking her isn't going to make her go away but that's not what is happening - her "message" is being exposed for what it is - extremist(now seemingly embraced by the mainstream left though).
You can prop her up as a "great American" but I thought she wasn't the issue here according to you. You say she shouldn't be attacked(and she isn't) yet you make claims about her being a great American. Nice setup but the bait stinks and is easily recognized. You are entitled to think of her what you wish but the message sheehan and her gaggle expouse are fair game for critique and highlighting.
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I am very happy that someone finally got the attention from the media that the anti war crowd deserved. Only good things can come from this! There have been enough pro war-pro hate everything that is not American in the media to last for 100 wars. We are but residents of the earth and it is a great day in America when people are finally waking up and seeing this war for what it is. I predict a career in politics for Ms. Sheehan, she lives in a big beautiful blue state. We need more honest to goodness Americans in office who actually care about OUR people!
:thumbsup:
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There you go with that stink-bait. You can try to talk her(personally) up in hopes that someone responds by attack her so you can then parade around the notion of her being attacked but it's not going to work on me. You have your opinion of her and what she personally cares for but I'll stick to the message I see her and her gaggle put out day after day.
As for the anti-war crowd "finally" getting attention? HAHA!!! have you been hiding under a rock? The media has been giving them more credit than they deserve for quite some time. Do you need to be reminded that the past election cycle was almost all about the war?
umbrella39
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The anti-war movement needed momentum and a voice and it got it in the form of Ms. Cindy Sheehan! It really is too bad she is not attractive or she would be getting all the face time her and her heart wrenching story deserves. Casey is smiling down on his mother right now. Bless you Cindy for trying to make sure not another mother has to have their child die for the big red machine. :thumbsup:
Again, nothing but stink-bait. YOU seem to want to make this about her by endlessly praising her yet you don't think people should attack her. Quite the intellectually honest position you've set up.:roll:
Please market your Cool-Aid. If you could guarantee results (lock-step Bush-filching adoration of policy) you would make millions. How is it you see Sheehan's house of cards crumbling but not the administration's case for war, or assessment of it's progress? Let's say you get your way, and she's wiped off the earth today. The other gold-star moms are still there. Then there's still that niggling detail of the truth coming out.
My respect for Ms. Sheehan has been in her ability to garner this much attention, and her proven ability to try to keep the focus on the issue. She's debunked dozens of false accusations, but there's always going to be another set incoming. I only wish the Liberals had blood-thirsty slimeballs to subvert the grandstanding of neo-cons.
And you should wait until Bush is off vacation if you want the press to fall off Ms. Sheehan. They're all sitting around doing zip until he gets back to Washington, so it's practically like shooting fish in a barrell (one of Bush's making, BTW).
Also, I don't recall Ms. Sheehan declaring she herself is non-partisan.
Let's check out a few quotes from Ms. Sheehan ...
"This country isn't worth dying for..."
"Bush is the biggest terrorist..."
"Bush is a fascist..."
"Bush is a lying bastard..."
"Bush is a Fuhrer..."
umbrella39
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He knows by now she was talking about Iraq when she said this country was not dying for. And all the other things are also quotes of hers from her speach in April of this year at SFSU.
All true by the way. I like her more and more every time a Bushfanboi posts her quotes. She has a good head on her shoulders :thumbsup:
My personal favorite of hers:
"George Bush and his band of neo-cons and their neo-con agenda killed my son. And I?ll never, ever, ever forget."
Nor will we Cindy, nor will we. :thumbsup:
All true by the way. I like her more and more every time a Bushfanboi posts her quotes. She has a good head on her shoulders :thumbsup:
My personal favorite of hers:
"George Bush and his band of neo-cons and their neo-con agenda killed my son. And I?ll never, ever, ever forget."
Nor will we Cindy, nor will we. :thumbsup:
The "mainstream" media had been trying to suggest it as have some of her apologists. Al Sharpton was on the tube yipping about how he's going to go join her, but he didn't know of(or just wanted to ignore) her inflamatory extremist rhetoric. It's like some people don't want to know what she stands for and won't accept the fact that she's an extremist. My take on it is that the extremist "message" has now become acceptable to the "mainstream" left and media in this country. How else would you explain it? Umbrella39 for the most part seems to be part of the mainstream left(atleast in the posts I've read of his) but yet he's latched onto this sheehan circus and just loves her anti-neocon(meaning jew - but they won't admit that) extremist rhetoric. He even lauds it. Now is he becoming extreme or has the extreme message been accepted by the "mainstream"?
Extremist rhetoric? You people are such a joke. You have NOTHING but lies and bullsh*t against her. Just goes to show what kind of people the Bush-apologists are.
So, is this the "message" you applaud Umbrella39, others? Is this what the "mainstream" left of our country embraces for their "message"?
sheehan's message
Quite a "mainstream" message we have here, wouldn't you agree? I wonder if those who stated "YOU SPEAK FOR ME, CINDY!" in the other thread agree with the extreme "message" above.
sheehan's message
Quite a "mainstream" message we have here, wouldn't you agree? I wonder if those who stated "YOU SPEAK FOR ME, CINDY!" in the other thread agree with the extreme "message" above.
Yes umbrella39 - extremist. Take note of the "message" your hero is shoveling today. Come back(with a straight face) and make the case that it wasn't extremist.
"continue the murder and mayhem" moms" isn't extremist?
"I know they have been as brainwashed as the rest of America" isn't extremist?
"How can these moms ... want more innocent blood shed just because their sons or daughters have been killed?" isn't extremist?
Don't mind her insane "logic" put forth in the first part of her "message" (it's the second bolded part)
We won't even go into the previous "messages" put forth by "mother":roll: sheehan and her gaggle.
Yep, all lies and bullsh*t :roll: Don't mind it's direct quotes(in context) straight from your hero's mouth. Yep, quite telling indeed.
umbrella39
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She is in a word, AWESOME. Though I do feel that someone is now writing her speeches for her.
"We have to honor the sacrifices of the fallen by completing the mission" is like saying"
"We have to honor those killed in car crashes by removing all seat belts".
What logic! Bush is a terrorist and Sheehan is an American hero.
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"We have to honor the sacrifices of the fallen by completing the mission" is like saying"
"We have to honor those killed in car crashes by removing all seat belts".
What logic! Bush is a terrorist and Sheehan is an American hero.
:thumbsup:
Hmm.
Bush is a terrorist?
Doesn't sound extremist to me.
Maybe the answer to my question = Both.
umbrella39
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Well 19 hijackers were responsible for the deaths of 3,000 or so Americans.
One man has been responsible for adding nearly 2,000 to that toll. Thank God there are not 18 more George Bushs.
One man has been responsible for adding nearly 2,000 to that toll. Thank God there are not 18 more George Bushs.
so you say that we and the media should be ignoring this woman... and yet you keep posting about her in this thread.
1) Cindy never said she spoke for anyone else
2) She's right. Sending more to die because others have died? WTF? *That's* the noble cause? Or is the noble cause spread theocracy
3) The extremists at this protest are the paid shills from the alleged grassroots group, Move America Forward is actually a front for a GOP PR firm
4) Remember Safia Taleb al-Souhail? She was the Iraqi the Propagandist exploited during his State of the Union address earlier this year (she was the one sitting next to the First Lady). Well, she seems to be singing a different tune now that women's rights has taken a back seat to
democ...er...theocracy.
5) Check out the "throngs" of pro-war supporters in Crawford.
Originally posted by: loki8481
so you say that we and the media should be ignoring this woman... and yet you keep posting about her in this thread.
It's the latest obsession for the Right. The goal is to deflect attention from the realities of their failed war in Iraq and other policy failures.
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