Sheehan: Memo to Drudge- It's Not About Me..

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yllus

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If you dare purposely venture into the public spotlight like Mrs. Sheehan has, you should be armed with the foreknowledge that it's a free-fire zone - especially when you're firing off bullets of your own. Politicos from both sides have destroyed the reputation of better and more important people than her, so save the "evil evil Republicans" BS.
 
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I agree, if you step on the soapbox, you're a target. But the slanderous attacks have nothing to do with her reason for protesting. She is against the war and the reasoning behind it. It's not surprising that some of the attacks against her are against her character, but that's how the game is played.
 

Genx87

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Even after my repeated attempts to keep the focus of my protest on the war, the Drudge Report and others continue to try to make the issue about me.

rotflmao

Did she really just say that?

Delusional
 

BushBasha

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Originally posted by: Gaard
This whole Sheehan thing is so very partisan when you think about it. Those who lean left see nothing wrong with what she's doing, those who lean right are, in one way or another, critical of her.

I don't think anyone on the right was critical of her until MoveON and Moore propped her up as the "Rosa Parks" of protestors. I was in her court of public opinion until she said she wasn't going to pay her taxes until Bush brings her dead son back from the grave? Hello?
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Even after my repeated attempts to keep the focus of my protest on the war, the Drudge Report and others continue to try to make the issue about me.

rotflmao

Did she really just say that?

Delusional

The right-wing assclowns are making up quotes left and right just hoping that something sticks. It's funny actually.

Edit: Although she said that statement above, there have been plenty of other statements(including from Drudge) that were complete fabrications. Just wanted to clear that up.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Even after my repeated attempts to keep the focus of my protest on the war, the Drudge Report and others continue to try to make the issue about me.

rotflmao

Did she really just say that?

Delusional

The right-wing assclowns are making up quotes left and right just hoping that something sticks. It's funny actually.

It is right from the link.

 

catnap1972

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Even after my repeated attempts to keep the focus of my protest on the war, the Drudge Report and others continue to try to make the issue about me.

rotflmao

Did she really just say that?

Delusional

The right-wing assclowns are making up quotes left and right just hoping that something sticks. It's funny actually.

What do you expect? They're desperate to get Po'BoyBush's approval ratings up somehow
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Even after my repeated attempts to keep the focus of my protest on the war, the Drudge Report and others continue to try to make the issue about me.

rotflmao

Did she really just say that?

Delusional

The right-wing assclowns are making up quotes left and right just hoping that something sticks. It's funny actually.

It is right from the link.

Check my edit... I clarified myself.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: Tab
Good fvcking god, can't you people even have a little sympathy? It's clear that she lost her marbles, can't you just let her be... Ugh..

I suggested shock therapy and an asylum.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Even after my repeated attempts to keep the focus of my protest on the war, the Drudge Report and others continue to try to make the issue about me.

rotflmao

Did she really just say that?

Delusional

The right-wing assclowns are making up quotes left and right just hoping that something sticks. It's funny actually.

It is right from the link.

Check my edit... I clarified myself.

That could be the definition of pwning yourself.
Talk about backpeddling.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Gaard
This whole Sheehan thing is so very partisan when you think about it. Those who lean left see nothing wrong with what she's doing, those who lean right are, in one way or another, critical of her.

I don't think anyone on the right was critical of her until MoveON and Moore propped her up as the "Rosa Parks" of protestors. I was in her court of public opinion until she said she wasn't going to pay her taxes until Bush brings her dead son back from the grave? Hello?

I am not saying this may not be the case, but I can find no links on Google news that indicates she ever met with Moore (like many have stated) or that she is being backed by Moveon. Links please if you have them?

If that is the case, so future protesters knows the lay of the playing field, DON'T let Moore or MoveOn post anything about your cause? Even if it is valid, the mere mention of your cause by either of these two entities invalidates anything you have to say? Just curious.

 

ahurtt

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I kind of agree with the OP. I think by now, Sheehan has made her point and it is time to go home. Now her little protest is getting to be a little bit gratuitous and she is starting to really make herself look like a bit of a loon to some. I think she should pack it up and go home while she still maybe has a few minutes of her 15 minutes of fame left.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Even after my repeated attempts to keep the focus of my protest on the war, the Drudge Report and others continue to try to make the issue about me.

rotflmao

Did she really just say that?

Delusional

The right-wing assclowns are making up quotes left and right just hoping that something sticks. It's funny actually.

It is right from the link.

Check my edit... I clarified myself.

That could be the definition of pwning yourself.
Talk about backpeddling.

The point I'm trying to make is that she's been the victim of libel and slander from the media, INCLUDING DRUDGE and she stated it. No "delusional" thing to it. Would you like a site map to comprehend that?
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: ahurtt
I kind of agree with the OP. I think by now, Sheehan has made her point and it is time to go home. Now her little protest is getting to be a little bit gratuitous and she is starting to really make herself look like a bit of a loon to some. I think she should pack it up and go home while she still maybe has a few minutes of her 15 minutes of fame left.

She stays as long as she wants to stay, not as long as you would like her to or you feel it's become un-entertaining. She seems like a loon to you because you've bought into the slanderous and libelous quotes that have been fabricated by the RW media spin. If those quotes hadn't have been fabricated, you wouldn't neccessarily agree with her position, but you wouldn't think she was a loon.
 

ahurtt

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Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Tab
Good fvcking god, can't you people even have a little sympathy? It's clear that she lost her marbles, can't you just let her be... Ugh..

"lost her marbles" ? You sound quite sympathic :roll: I don't think she's "lost her marbles", I just think she's let her grief become all consuming and she chose Bush to focus her rage on. She is entitled to express that as I've said, but it doesn't mean she is shielded from any criticism - especially since she chose to make a public scene.

I am sympathic to her, she lost her fvkcing son. All you're doing is making the situation worse, she wants attention you're giving it to her.

Yes we understand this. She lost her son in Iraq. . .but she is unique in this respect how? Her sons life was more important than all the other sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, both Iraqi and American, who have died in Iraq how? She is so special, why? I do feel sympathy for her. At first I thought it was a good idea what she was doing. . .calling Bush on his BS. And she made her point. Now I feel sorry for her for a different reason. . .I feel she has lost her grip on reality due to the trauma of losing her son. Or at least that's what I'd like to believe. There is also the grim possibility as some others have suggested that she has suddenly found all this lime-light not that objectionable and is just soaking it all in waiting for that book deal or that made for TV movie offer.
 

RichPLS

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She seems like a loon to you because you've bought into the slanderous and libelous quotes that have been fabricated by the RW media spin. If those quotes hadn't have been fabricated, you wouldn't neccessarily agree with her position, but you wouldn't think she was a loon.

Yes, if no facts are known about her, the less loony she seems, and as long as the media stays away, no one hears about it... Thus she is less of a loon, but then she speaks...all bets are off!
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Even after my repeated attempts to keep the focus of my protest on the war, the Drudge Report and others continue to try to make the issue about me.

rotflmao

Did she really just say that?

Delusional

The right-wing assclowns are making up quotes left and right just hoping that something sticks. It's funny actually.

It is right from the link.

Check my edit... I clarified myself.

That could be the definition of pwning yourself.
Talk about backpeddling.

The point I'm trying to make is that she's been the victim of libel and slander from the media, INCLUDING DRUDGE and she stated it. No "delusional" thing to it. Would you like a site map to comprehend that?

lmao

Her quote makes no mention of that. She simply said that she wanted this to be about the war and drudge is making it about her. This has been about her since the beginning. And she is a the reason why it has been about her.

That is why she is delusional.

Try to read what is written and respond to it instead of making quick personal attacks that bite you in the arse and cause you to run with your tail between legs. Then cause you to come back and pile on the idiocy by talking about something the original quote had nothing to do with.


 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Tab
Good fvcking god, can't you people even have a little sympathy? It's clear that she lost her marbles, can't you just let her be... Ugh..

"lost her marbles" ? You sound quite sympathic :roll: I don't think she's "lost her marbles", I just think she's let her grief become all consuming and she chose Bush to focus her rage on. She is entitled to express that as I've said, but it doesn't mean she is shielded from any criticism - especially since she chose to make a public scene.

I am sympathic to her, she lost her fvkcing son. All you're doing is making the situation worse, she wants attention you're giving it to her.

Yes we understand this. She lost her son in Iraq. . .but she is unique in this respect how? Her sons life was more important than all the other sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, both Iraqi and American, who have died in Iraq how? She is so special, why? I do feel sympathy for her. At first I thought it was a good idea what she was doing. . .calling Bush on his BS. And she made her point. Now I feel sorry for her for a different reason. . .I feel she has lost her grip on reality due to the trauma of losing her son. Or at least that's what I'd like to believe. There is also the grim possibility as some others have suggested that she has suddenly found all this lime-light not that objectionable and is just soaking it all in waiting for that book deal or that made for TV movie offer.

You forget the possibility that she is sincere in asking Bush that one question... "For what noble cause did my son die for?" Did she ask people to come down? No. She said it's nice that people feel the way she does, but she would've been just as determined if she were by herself waiting for the President's answer.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: catnap1972
What do you expect? They're desperate to get Po'BoyBush's approval ratings up somehow

At this point, the approval ratings have no real meaning. the ones that want to look at the polls are those grasping at straws.

He can force through the political appointments; the Dems have shown that they have no valid backbone.

The economy is stable (no matter what the nay-sayers want to happen). Oil prices have some impact, and it may slow down the growth, but not kill it.

The SS reform is not going anywhere; he was unable to make a solid enough case for it.

Iraq is not able to be solved soon; nor will there be a pull out for political sake. The problem will be resolved/clearing up in the next 2-3 years, it will not turn into a Vietnam.

Therefore, what targets Bush may have set for the next few years, are not going to be impacted by the polls.

The polls are also targetting Bush, therefore the Repub leader in '08 (probably in the WH) will not have any of that type of baggage that Bush is having at present.

Because the Dems have originally marched lock step with the Repubs in Congress and have not shown a clear viable alternative, they will have a difficult time gaining control there.

 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Tab
Good fvcking god, can't you people even have a little sympathy? It's clear that she lost her marbles, can't you just let her be... Ugh..

"lost her marbles" ? You sound quite sympathic :roll: I don't think she's "lost her marbles", I just think she's let her grief become all consuming and she chose Bush to focus her rage on. She is entitled to express that as I've said, but it doesn't mean she is shielded from any criticism - especially since she chose to make a public scene.

I am sympathic to her, she lost her fvkcing son. All you're doing is making the situation worse, she wants attention you're giving it to her.

Yes we understand this. She lost her son in Iraq. . .but she is unique in this respect how? Her sons life was more important than all the other sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, both Iraqi and American, who have died in Iraq how? She is so special, why? I do feel sympathy for her. At first I thought it was a good idea what she was doing. . .calling Bush on his BS. And she made her point. Now I feel sorry for her for a different reason. . .I feel she has lost her grip on reality due to the trauma of losing her son. Or at least that's what I'd like to believe. There is also the grim possibility as some others have suggested that she has suddenly found all this lime-light not that objectionable and is just soaking it all in waiting for that book deal or that made for TV movie offer.

You forget the possibility that she is sincere in asking Bush that one question... "For what noble cause did my son die for?" Did she ask people to come down? No. She said it's nice that people feel the way she does, but she would've been just as determined if she were by herself waiting for the President's answer.


That is funny you use the word sincere.


 

ahurtt

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: ahurtt
I kind of agree with the OP. I think by now, Sheehan has made her point and it is time to go home. Now her little protest is getting to be a little bit gratuitous and she is starting to really make herself look like a bit of a loon to some. I think she should pack it up and go home while she still maybe has a few minutes of her 15 minutes of fame left.

She stays as long as she wants to stay, not as long as you would like her to or you feel it's become un-entertaining. She seems like a loon to you because you've bought into the slanderous and libelous quotes that have been fabricated by the RW media spin. If those quotes hadn't have been fabricated, you wouldn't neccessarily agree with her position, but you wouldn't think she was a loon.

I haven't bought into anything. I really don't know jack about what she allegedly said or didn't say or do or with whom she hangs out. I honestly haven't been following it that closely. I just know she's there, I know why she is supposedly there, and I know she's still there. I haven't really followed many more details or all the mudslinging that's been going on. It's just not that interesting to me. Only reason I posted something here on the topic is because it's a slow day at work and I was bored. So your whole argument against me based on me having bought into the slander and libel going on are unfounded. I am ignorant on those matters. She can stay there and pout about her son until she dies for all I care. I just think she's a nut.
 

ahurtt

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Tab
Good fvcking god, can't you people even have a little sympathy? It's clear that she lost her marbles, can't you just let her be... Ugh..

"lost her marbles" ? You sound quite sympathic :roll: I don't think she's "lost her marbles", I just think she's let her grief become all consuming and she chose Bush to focus her rage on. She is entitled to express that as I've said, but it doesn't mean she is shielded from any criticism - especially since she chose to make a public scene.

I am sympathic to her, she lost her fvkcing son. All you're doing is making the situation worse, she wants attention you're giving it to her.

Yes we understand this. She lost her son in Iraq. . .but she is unique in this respect how? Her sons life was more important than all the other sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, both Iraqi and American, who have died in Iraq how? She is so special, why? I do feel sympathy for her. At first I thought it was a good idea what she was doing. . .calling Bush on his BS. And she made her point. Now I feel sorry for her for a different reason. . .I feel she has lost her grip on reality due to the trauma of losing her son. Or at least that's what I'd like to believe. There is also the grim possibility as some others have suggested that she has suddenly found all this lime-light not that objectionable and is just soaking it all in waiting for that book deal or that made for TV movie offer.

You forget the possibility that she is sincere in asking Bush that one question... "For what noble cause did my son die for?" Did she ask people to come down? No. She said it's nice that people feel the way she does, but she would've been just as determined if she were by herself waiting for the President's answer.

No I didn't forget that. I know that is what she set out on this quest for. And it should be obvious now that she is not going to get an answer. . .why? Because Bush probably doesn't have an answer. He is at least smart enough to realize that any "sunshine up a$$ blowing" answer he gives will be transparent at the least and full patriotic mumbo-jumbo and the public will see through it. While Bush is so unpopular right now, there is no answer he can give that will not be torn apart. So he remains silent. She made her point. Now she is starting to look like an idiot.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Tab
Good fvcking god, can't you people even have a little sympathy? It's clear that she lost her marbles, can't you just let her be... Ugh..

"lost her marbles" ? You sound quite sympathic :roll: I don't think she's "lost her marbles", I just think she's let her grief become all consuming and she chose Bush to focus her rage on. She is entitled to express that as I've said, but it doesn't mean she is shielded from any criticism - especially since she chose to make a public scene.

I am sympathic to her, she lost her fvkcing son. All you're doing is making the situation worse, she wants attention you're giving it to her.

Yes we understand this. She lost her son in Iraq. . .but she is unique in this respect how? Her sons life was more important than all the other sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, both Iraqi and American, who have died in Iraq how? She is so special, why? I do feel sympathy for her. At first I thought it was a good idea what she was doing. . .calling Bush on his BS. And she made her point. Now I feel sorry for her for a different reason. . .I feel she has lost her grip on reality due to the trauma of losing her son. Or at least that's what I'd like to believe. There is also the grim possibility as some others have suggested that she has suddenly found all this lime-light not that objectionable and is just soaking it all in waiting for that book deal or that made for TV movie offer.

You forget the possibility that she is sincere in asking Bush that one question... "For what noble cause did my son die for?" Did she ask people to come down? No. She said it's nice that people feel the way she does, but she would've been just as determined if she were by herself waiting for the President's answer.


That is funny you use the word sincere.

You know, people like you really make me wonder if I should rethink my view on abortion.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Tab
Good fvcking god, can't you people even have a little sympathy? It's clear that she lost her marbles, can't you just let her be... Ugh..

"lost her marbles" ? You sound quite sympathic :roll: I don't think she's "lost her marbles", I just think she's let her grief become all consuming and she chose Bush to focus her rage on. She is entitled to express that as I've said, but it doesn't mean she is shielded from any criticism - especially since she chose to make a public scene.

I am sympathic to her, she lost her fvkcing son. All you're doing is making the situation worse, she wants attention you're giving it to her.

Yes we understand this. She lost her son in Iraq. . .but she is unique in this respect how? Her sons life was more important than all the other sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, both Iraqi and American, who have died in Iraq how? She is so special, why? I do feel sympathy for her. At first I thought it was a good idea what she was doing. . .calling Bush on his BS. And she made her point. Now I feel sorry for her for a different reason. . .I feel she has lost her grip on reality due to the trauma of losing her son. Or at least that's what I'd like to believe. There is also the grim possibility as some others have suggested that she has suddenly found all this lime-light not that objectionable and is just soaking it all in waiting for that book deal or that made for TV movie offer.

You forget the possibility that she is sincere in asking Bush that one question... "For what noble cause did my son die for?" Did she ask people to come down? No. She said it's nice that people feel the way she does, but she would've been just as determined if she were by herself waiting for the President's answer.

No I didn't forget that. I know that is what she set out on this quest for. And it should be obvious now that she is not going to get an answer. . .why? Because Bush probably doesn't have an answer. He is at least smart enough to realize that any "sunshine up a$$ blowing" answer he gives will be transparent at the least and full patriotic mumbo-jumbo and the public will see through it. So he remains silent. She made her point. Now she is starting to look like an idiot.

That's a valid argument. I think if Bush would've met with her (as Sen. Hagel had said), all of this could've been avoided and Bush could've gotten some points with the public with the gesture. You know that option was given to the President at some point, but he refused. The only question I have is.. why, at that point, didn't he want to talk to her? Was it arrogance? Was it because he doesn't have an answer? Does he just not care?

As for her leaving now, she vowed to stay in Crawford the entire duration of Bush's vacation. Plus, she has other mothers that have had their sons killed or are deployed in Iraq with her as well. I suppose she also feels compelled to stay for that reason.

Bottom line: Sheehan has painted Bush into a corner, politically. I don't think that was her intention per se, but that's the way Bush played it.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Tab
Good fvcking god, can't you people even have a little sympathy? It's clear that she lost her marbles, can't you just let her be... Ugh..

"lost her marbles" ? You sound quite sympathic :roll: I don't think she's "lost her marbles", I just think she's let her grief become all consuming and she chose Bush to focus her rage on. She is entitled to express that as I've said, but it doesn't mean she is shielded from any criticism - especially since she chose to make a public scene.

I am sympathic to her, she lost her fvkcing son. All you're doing is making the situation worse, she wants attention you're giving it to her.

Yes we understand this. She lost her son in Iraq. . .but she is unique in this respect how? Her sons life was more important than all the other sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, both Iraqi and American, who have died in Iraq how? She is so special, why? I do feel sympathy for her. At first I thought it was a good idea what she was doing. . .calling Bush on his BS. And she made her point. Now I feel sorry for her for a different reason. . .I feel she has lost her grip on reality due to the trauma of losing her son. Or at least that's what I'd like to believe. There is also the grim possibility as some others have suggested that she has suddenly found all this lime-light not that objectionable and is just soaking it all in waiting for that book deal or that made for TV movie offer.

You forget the possibility that she is sincere in asking Bush that one question... "For what noble cause did my son die for?" Did she ask people to come down? No. She said it's nice that people feel the way she does, but she would've been just as determined if she were by herself waiting for the President's answer.


That is funny you use the word sincere.

You know, people like you really make me wonder if I should rethink my view on abortion.

I know, saying one thing then having to answer to why you did a 180 is silly talk.