She Came to America to Learn

[dphantom]

Luv 2 care about children almost as much as I care about keeping my toys.

I am not sure your point but it seems to be a trend, cryptic, meaningless statements

 

[sandorski]

It is not a fact just your personal point of view. The only people in a case like this that do not care about others are the very, very, very tiny amount of perpetrators.

There is not a single, law abiding gun owner I know of who does not care deeply about their and other children.

Not as much as their Guns.

 

[Blackjack200]

I am not sure your point but it seems to be a trend, cryptic, meaningless statements

Not really that cryptic, actually.

Not as much as their Guns.

See? He gets it.

 

[dphantom]

Not as much as their Guns.

which is an utterly false and reprehensible statement. as I said earlier, it is taking a personal bias and extending it to a perverted view of a class of law abiding citizens.

 

[sandorski]

which is an utterly false and reprehensible statement. as I said earlier, it is taking a personal bias and extending it to a perverted view of a class of law abiding citizens.

It is time to make some choices.

 

[SNC]

What exactly is your point ?

All I'm saying is that a large part of Americans don't care about dead children. Even when they are American. They rather have their gun than other people's children being alive. That's not something I made up. That's a fact. Look at what American politicians have done against gun violence over the last 50 years. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Maybe it's true that the gun-nuts and the NRA have a position where they can dictate politicians more than they should, based on numbers alone. Even then, it's still a disgrace how Americans and their politicians act regarding guns. The whole world looks at you, and thinks you are idiots.

Where is the study you got this info from? I would LOVE to read it! I have to assume that you are including every gun owner and not just the ones who actually don't care about children, right?
So if that's the case then FUCK YOU! I am a gun owner, I also rescinded my life membership in the NRA. Now please try in your best words to describe to me how MY guns here in MY house are a threat to any kid anywhere. Show your work when replying. Just because people want to keep guns does not mean they want kids to be killed. I wonder how many time your pie hole runs on about the 1st amendment and the death to kids it causes. I'll thake never for $400 Alex... Have you been following the news lately, care to wager the ratio of gun deaths to deaths caused by say an automobile? I'll let you look up the numbers for yourself, as you have shown that you spend lots of time and effort into looking and verifying info.

 

[dphantom]

It is time to make some choices.

another cryptic statement. List the choices one is to make.

 

[SNC]

Not as much as their Guns.

Care to let the rest of us in on the secret of how me handing my guns over to the local PD for destruction could have saved any of the kids your talking about?

 

[soulcougher73]

Care to let the rest of us in on the secret of how me handing my guns over to the local PD for destruction could have saved any of the kids your talking about?

Its not just YOU. It is everyone. If this person did not have easy access to a gun from people like you, some kids would be alive today. All you guns nuts "think" you are responsible gun owners. Until you're not. And you are all "good guys with a gun", until you're not.

 

[sdifox]

Since one of the weapons he had with him was a bomb using carbon dioxide, evidently we need to ban both guns and air.

Err how does carbon dioxide explode?

 

[dphantom]

Its not just YOU. It is everyone. If this person did not have easy access to a gun from people like you, some kids would be alive today. All you guns nuts "think" you are responsible gun owners. Until you're not. And you are all "good guys with a gun", until you're not.

So you are ready to assign guilt to an entire class of law abiding people just because you think maybe someday someone might be irresponsible.

Seems that viewpoint is not too far afield from all blacks are lazy and stupid, or Indians are savages, or wet***k to Mexicans and so on.

Perhaps you should reflect on your personal philosophy or is that what todays progressives espouse?

 

[glenn1]

It is time to make some choices.

We already did and your "think of the children" argument lost. I'm perfectly fine if you frame it as "do you prefer your guns over the lives of kids," I'd say freedoms are worth it for the same reason we stopped the ridiculous Prohibition experiment even though kids die from people drinking and driving nowadays yet we don't ban alcohol. If you disagree then convince a supermajority of Americans to agree with you and repeal the 2A.

 

[dphantom]

well that was interesting. One cannot use a derogatory term in describing an example not as actual viewpoint, about Mexicans without being censored. So AnandTech censors, how about that.

I wonder what other items are censored?

 

[SNC]

Its not just YOU. It is everyone. If this person did not have easy access to a gun from people like you, some kids would be alive today. All you guns nuts "think" you are responsible gun owners. Until you're not. And you are all "good guys with a gun", until you're not.

So you've handed over the keys to your car to the PD so that your kids cant use it to run over a group of people at the next farmers market? No! How utterly irresponsible of you!

 

[soulcougher73]

So you've handed over the keys to your car to the PD so that your kids cant use it to run over a group of people at the next farmers market? No! How utterly irresponsible of you!

Not this same ole tired shit again lol. When guns have more uses besides putting holes into things and making them dead, you let me know. Cars designed purpose is not to kill, they have beneficial uses of transportation, etc.

 

[Jaskalas]

We already did and your "think of the children" argument lost. I'm perfectly fine if you frame it as "do you prefer your guns over the lives of kids," I'd say freedoms are worth it for the same reason we stopped the ridiculous Prohibition experiment even though kids die from people drinking and driving nowadays yet we don't ban alcohol. If you disagree then convince a supermajority of Americans to agree with you and repeal the 2A.

Prohibition is a rather fine analog to what is wanted here.

What bothers me though, are the nations that were successful in gun control. They were successful were they not?

 

[SNC]

Not this same ole tired shit again lol. When guns have more uses besides putting holes into things and making them dead, you let me know. Cars designed purpose is not to kill, they have beneficial uses of transportation, etc.

Ahh so if it does not fit into your little view it's not a concern. he worst shooting killed 58, the worst massacre by auto killed 84. Now you can say that the auto has purpose, but if they both are locked in a garage they can both are a threat to noone, just as my guns are. If you have a kid that is bent on killing his classmates do you really think he gives a shit that you don't own a gun?

 

[SNC]

Prohibition is a rather fine analog to what is wanted here.

What bothers me though, are the nations that were successful in gun control. They were successful were they not?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/12/world/australia/mass-shooting-osmington.html You tell me.

 

[glenn1]

Prohibition is a rather fine analog to what is wanted here.

What bothers me though, are the nations that were successful in gun control. They were successful were they not?

Probably about as successful as "abortion control" in Ireland in controlling terminations or "morality control" in Saudi Arabia in allowing school girls to burn to death in controlling "vice" of their "immodest dress" while fleeing a fire. If you care more about the effectiveness of removing a right than the right itself I'm sure you can find lots of "successful" examples.

 

[ivwshane]

Ahh so if it does not fit into your little view it's not a concern. he worst shooting killed 58, the worst massacre by auto killed 84. Now you can say that the auto has purpose, but if they both are locked in a garage they can both are a threat to noone, just as my guns are. If you have a kid that is bent on killing his classmates do you really think he gives a shit that you don't own a gun?

After that killing by vehicle did anything change? Did they take precautions to try and prevent it from happening again? Think real hard about how you answer this, I wouldn't want your answer to blow up in your face.


You see, what you and your fellow ammosexuals fail to realize is that when similar deaths occur and there is a common theme (say speeding and a blind turn), no one objects to putting into place measures or laws that attempt to reduce such deaths (I've seen speed bumps in residential areas just to get people to show down).

When it comes to guns though, the opposite approach is taken. We can't do anything about gun deaths says the only country where it's a problem.

We should start treating children like we do the military and soldiers, at least then people and politicians will pretend to give a fuck and throw the kids a few bones.

 

[brycejones]

another cryptic statement. List the choices one is to make.

To be dense as a rock or not, you appear to have already made a choice.

 

[pmv]

well that was interesting. One cannot use a derogatory term in describing an example not as actual viewpoint, about Mexicans without being censored. So AnandTech censors, how about that.

I wonder what other items are censored?

It's probably expecting too much of a simple text-based filter to work out in what context a word is being used. That's getting into fairly sophisticated AI stuff, no?

Naughty-word filters aren't terribly sophisticated. As the residents of Scunthorpe famously discovered when they first tried to set up Facebook pages.

 

[SNC]

After that killing by vehicle did anything change? Did they take precautions to try and prevent it from happening again? Think real hard about how you answer this, I wouldn't want your answer to blow up in your face.


You see, what you and your fellow ammosexuals fail to realize is that when similar deaths occur and there is a common theme (say speeding and a blind turn), no one objects to putting into place measures or laws that attempt to reduce such deaths (I've seen speed bumps in residential areas just to get people to show down).

When it comes to guns though, the opposite approach is taken. We can't do anything about gun deaths says the only country where it's a problem.

We should start treating children like we do the military and soldiers, at least then people and politicians will pretend to give a fuck and throw the kids a few bones.

So you think that a speed bump in a residential area is analogous to repealing the 2nd amendment? My example of the 84 killed by one person driving one auto changed nothing, so I'm not sure what might blowup in my face.

 

[dphantom]

It's probably expecting too much of a simple text-based filter to work out in what context a word is being used. That's getting into fairly sophisticated AI stuff, no?

Naughty-word filters aren't terribly sophisticated. As the residents of Scunthorpe famously discovered when they first tried to set up Facebook pages.

yeah you are most likely right. Context is the key and I am sure this site cannot ascertain whether an objectionable word is being used in an appropriate context.

 

[ivwshane]

So you think that a speed bump in a residential area is analogous to repealing the 2nd amendment? My example of the 84 killed by one person driving one auto changed nothing, so I'm not sure what might blowup in my face.

Answer the fucking question you little bitch!