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Upon further review, it looks like its extremely close as far as GDP is concerned between Israel and its neighbors, and it mostly depends on how you measure it. Presumably Saudi Arabia was not counted as its not an immediate neighbor. If you go by the CIA World Factbook number, Egypt's GDP goes down by 7 billion dollars for instance. My suspicion is that this is a matter of the numbers adding up differently in Isreal's favor when the list was initially compiled, likely some time ago.
 
I don't care how you put your statement it only proves that a country such as Israel has no dire need for aids, they might as well let it go to countries that really need it.
 
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
I don't care how you put your statement it only proves that a country such as Israel has no dire need for aids, they might as well let it go to countries that really need it.

Does Egypt need our money?

Why do we "give" money to anyone? 🙁
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
I don't care how you put your statement it only proves that a country such as Israel has no dire need for aids, they might as well let it go to countries that really need it.

Does Egypt need our money?

Why do we "give" money to anyone? 🙁

political leverage

give country money
country gets dependant on money
threaten to take money away if country does not support whatever
 
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
I don't care how you put your statement it only proves that a country such as Israel has no dire need for aids, they might as well let it go to countries that really need it.

Does Egypt need our money?

Why do we "give" money to anyone? 🙁

political leverage

give country money
country gets dependant on money
threaten to take money away if country does not support whatever


not bad.. so.. the stronger their economy the more we need to give to gain influence 😉
 
Originally posted by: Aegeon
You should do better research before making assertions. You can read the following article for some more details, but here's a basic quote.

Intel has several facilities in Israel, including two chip factories. We had the chance to visit Fab18, located in Kiryat Gat, which manufactures Pentium 4 chips in 90 nm process and also chipsets and flash memories.

http://www.intel.com/pressroom/kits/manufacturing/manufacturing_qa.htm

Fab18 accounts for what % of 65nm/90nm/13nm production? I have family friends who work at the Intel fabs in Hillsboro, OR, which accounts for nearly HALF of total CPU production.

Originally posted by: Aegeon
While I'll have to do some more research, the claim the Pentium 4 was developed in Israel was made prior to it even coming out.
Intel?s popular Pentium 3 chip was developed in Israel. Its faster, next-generation version, Pentium 4, is currently under development in Israel, too.
http://www.export.gov.il/Eng/_Articles/Article.asp?CategoryID=478&ArticleID=635

Each processor goes through several development revisions, and since there is a dev team in Israel, I wouldn't be surprised if they did develop some revision. However, to say that the Pentium-3/Pentium-4 design was developed solely by Israel, is false. Most of the dev teams are located in Arizona, California, and Oregon.

In any event, most of these statements are probably based on some truth, but its stretched and highly exaggerated.
 
Originally posted by: Aegeon
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Originally posted by: Aimster
Israel's GDP is not larger than

Egypt/Saudi Arabia

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2001rank.html


My my my! What do you know Joe! Things keep getting falsefied all of the time.
The statement was at least partially correct. Its only when you adjust for Purchasing Power Parity that you get higher numbers for Egypt. Egypt's raw GDP was 81.47 billion dollars.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/eg.html

In comparison Israel's raw GDP was 123.7 billion dollars.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/is.html

My suspicion is that for Saudi Arabia before recent oil price increased occured, it WAS in fact lower than Israel's as far as raw GDP was concerned. Keep in mind how much oil prices per barrel have gone up recently, and how heavily reliant Saudi Arabia upon oil for thier economy. I believe that the statement was likely correct when that list was originally created, it merely is no longer correct due to the increase in oil prices since then.


Nothing to do with oil what you used is real GDP (ranked list)
He used the PPP (purchasinf power parity) GDP which more useful for camparing living standards (then on a per capita bases though) ia a way but not economic power. Egypt does have a lower GDP in real money just as China has a lower GDP in real money than Japan.... which means they will not be as powerful on the worldmarket. Inside their country the ppl will still be able to buy things (produced in their countries). Dunno if that is clear. Example Israel would be more able to buy a machine in Germany than Egypt because in real money their economy produces more wealth.
 
Originally posted by: B00ne
Originally posted by: Aegeon
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Originally posted by: Aimster
Israel's GDP is not larger than

Egypt/Saudi Arabia

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2001rank.html


My my my! What do you know Joe! Things keep getting falsefied all of the time.
The statement was at least partially correct. Its only when you adjust for Purchasing Power Parity that you get higher numbers for Egypt. Egypt's raw GDP was 81.47 billion dollars.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/eg.html

In comparison Israel's raw GDP was 123.7 billion dollars.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/is.html

My suspicion is that for Saudi Arabia before recent oil price increased occured, it WAS in fact lower than Israel's as far as raw GDP was concerned. Keep in mind how much oil prices per barrel have gone up recently, and how heavily reliant Saudi Arabia upon oil for thier economy. I believe that the statement was likely correct when that list was originally created, it merely is no longer correct due to the increase in oil prices since then.


Nothing to do with oil what you used is real GDP (ranked list)
He used the PPP (purchasinf power parity) GDP which more useful for camparing living standards (then on a per capita bases though) ia a way but not economic power. Egypt does have a lower GDP in real money just as China has a lower GDP in real money than Japan.... which means they will not be as powerful on the worldmarket. Inside their country the ppl will still be able to buy things (produced in their countries). Dunno if that is clear. Example Israel would be more able to buy a machine in Germany than Egypt because in real money their economy produces more wealth.


However that example is false, because we will buy it for them 🙂
 
most of this may be true and the Israelies are certainly one of the smartest ppl around.... hats off to them

but there are certainly inaccuracies in that list. The pentium, for example - the development team was led by an India. Vinod Dham, I believe, but pls tell me if I got that wrong
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Pay attention to this thread George Bush and Republicans.
Notice how important EDUCATION has been to Jewish people.
Its all about education.
You can't accomplish much in America without it.
So instead of cutting student loans, etc, you should be increasing funding for it.
I don't have any figures to back this up, but if you look at many, many of the successful Jewish people (and others) in this country many went to public universities. And MOST utilized the low cost of attending these universities as well as government programs to help them pay to go to these universities.
Instead of a bogus plan of using "tax cuts" to grow our way out of debt we should be EDUCATING our way to a prosperous America.
Trust me, I'm a mensch.
 
Originally posted by: Vich
Sh1tty LITTLE COUNTRY






* The Pentium microprocessor in your computer was most likely made in Israel.


I know this is wrong, so i am assuming the rest is wrong as well.
 
Originally posted by: techs
Pay attention to this thread George Bush and Republicans.
Notice how important EDUCATION has been to Jewish people.
Its all about education.
You can't accomplish much in America without it.
So instead of cutting student loans, etc, you should be increasing funding for it.
I don't have any figures to back this up, but if you look at many, many of the successful Jewish people (and others) in this country many went to public universities. And MOST utilized the low cost of attending these universities as well as government programs to help them pay to go to these universities.
Instead of a bogus plan of using "tax cuts" to grow our way out of debt we should be EDUCATING our way to a prosperous America.
Trust me, I'm a mensch.


I agree. I've always beleived in the power of education.

I look at myself:

I was working for the post office and absolutely hated it. I wanted a better life, so I went to back to college and graduated this past fall. I'm a special education major and will be teaching handicapped children at the elementary level. People tell me all the time that teachers get paid squat and you're wasting your time. They will then state that they make more then me and they only have a high school education. That's true on the surface but what these ignorant people don't see is what happens when an individual is educated.

For instance, I'll be now teaching special education children I'm also going to be forming a consulting firm that deals specifically with the poor Spanish that are coming into America. Also, I'm going to open a cafe/restaurant down at the shore in another year or two and this will cater towards people with higher incomes. My parents have a cafe and they do exceptionally well and I'd like to follow in their footsteps. Plus, I have other exciting ideas that I can't wait to try out.

What I'm trying to get at is this will not be taking place without me obtaining a higher form of education. I plan to go back to college so I can specialize in the great reading program at my school. I plan to study Spanish, French and Chinese. I plan to attend cooking expos in NY and I plan to take business courses as well. This will be done all in an effort to better prepare myself for success and it all starts with education.

 
an awful of those seem to be either lies or gross exagerations.

anyway, you Israel-sycophants are as idiotic as the Israel-bashers. You're both pathetic.
 
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
I don't care how you put your statement it only proves that a country such as Israel has no dire need for aids, they might as well let it go to countries that really need it.
You know what, I am tired of your bullshit. So let's say this: let U.S. foreign aid to a country correspond to the amount of taxes that the people of that nationality/ethnic group pay in the U.S.

You want to bet how it turns out?

In either case, who the f-ck are you to decide who needs what? You want Egyptians to stop starving - go and deal with the leaders who'd rather fight a war with Israel then educate their population.
 
Israel has the highest ratio of university degrees to the population in the world.

The per capita income in 2000 was over $17,500, exceeding that of the UK.

Israel produces more scientific papers per capita than any other nation by a large margin - 109 per 10,000 people --as well as one of the highest per capita rates of patents filed.

Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East.


Hmmmm makes you wonder if we would just educate our people instead of making it a private business maybe in the LONG run we would come out ontop.

Naaa Rebubs not being "Conservative" are more into the "Quick Buck"

 
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
I don't care how you put your statement it only proves that a country such as Israel has no dire need for aids, they might as well let it go to countries that really need it.
You know what, I am tired of your bullshit. So let's say this: let U.S. foreign aid to a country correspond to the amount of taxes that the people of that nationality/ethnic group pay in the U.S.

You want to bet how it turns out?

In either case, who the f-ck are you to decide who needs what? You want Egyptians to stop starving - go and deal with the leaders who'd rather fight a war with Israel then educate their population.
This is the worst post of yours I've ever seen.

Israel does not need aid, period. hat would be like sending aid to Canada, or Great Britain, it's retarded.

Ethnic-based foreign aid? Are you joking? You're aware that most American jews have roots in America extending to well before the creation of modern Israel right? (i.e. they have nothing to do with Israel).
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Israel does not need aid, period. hat would be like sending aid to Canada, or Great Britain, it's retarded.
Canada isn't surrounded by half a billion people with full intent to kill everyone there. [/quote]
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Ethnic-based foreign aid? Are you joking?
Yes, I was.

I am just sick and tired of having these people drone on and on about how we should just abandon Israel... cause when they think of US aid to Israel ceasing, they can smell blood.
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
You're aware that most American jews have roots in America extending to well before the creation of modern Israel right? (i.e. they have nothing to do with Israel).
So what - they support Israel, which is what matters. It's their money, so they lobby for supporting Israel.

Furthermore, the continued existence of Israel is a good boost for the global economy, and the aid is likely dwarfed by the amount of trade that takes place... not to mention the strategic military and geopolitical significance of having Israel where it is. That, alone, is worth the money.
 
last time I checked Israel is not surrounded by half a billion people who want to kill Israel either.

if that was the case Israelis wouldnt go to Egypt/Jordan for vacation
 
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Israel does not need aid, period. hat would be like sending aid to Canada, or Great Britain, it's retarded.
Canada isn't surrounded by half a billion people with full intent to kill everyone there.
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Ethnic-based foreign aid? Are you joking?
Yes, I was.

I am just sick and tired of having these people drone on and on about how we should just abandon Israel... cause when they think of US aid to Israel ceasing, they can smell blood.
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
You're aware that most American jews have roots in America extending to well before the creation of modern Israel right? (i.e. they have nothing to do with Israel).
So what - they support Israel, which is what matters. It's their money, so they lobby for supporting Israel.

Furthermore, the continued existence of Israel is a good boost for the global economy, and the aid is likely dwarfed by the amount of trade that takes place... not to mention the strategic military and geopolitical significance of having Israel where it is. That, alone, is worth the money.[/quote]
*sigh* Foreign Aid is 'Aid', if you want to call it 'strategic imperialism' call it that, and add the dollars spent to the already ridiculous American military budget.

The creation of Israel is on sketchy grounds to begin with, but seems to have been a combination of military strategy and zionist convictions.

Also, if Ann COulter is to be believed, Cnada is bordered by a country of 300 million, half of whom think we are 'lucky that the US lets us exist on the same continent'😛

I know you are a strong supporter of Israel, though I sometimes wonder if that's because you actually think there's a strong argument for supporting them or if it's more like supporting a close family member, even if they've done something very wrong. On most other topics you're one f the more reasonable posters here, but the post of yours that I just called crap was exactly that.
 
Originally posted by: Meuge

So what - they support Israel, which is what matters. It's their money, so they lobby for supporting Israel.

Furthermore, the continued existence of Israel is a good boost for the global economy, and the aid is likely dwarfed by the amount of trade that takes place... not to mention the strategic military and geopolitical significance of having Israel where it is. That, alone, is worth the money.

Exactly. it is our money, and every President since Israel was born has given disproportionate sums of money to Israel. Maybe there is a reason that this is normal, that very few people disagree, besides some of you. Israel is one reason that a lot of ME countries are not more aggressive toward the West. They are good to us, and we give them lots of money in return, is what it boils down to. But this did not happen as a result of evolution; most Jews would be offended at the suggestion. Instead, like many people have said, they have placed emphasis where it is needed. This is evolving to a point, meeting a need, but not evolution, as if they are higher life forms.
 
Originally posted by: Lizardman
Originally posted by: Vich
Sh1tty LITTLE COUNTRY






* The Pentium microprocessor in your computer was most likely made in Israel.


I know this is wrong, so i am assuming the rest is wrong as well.


The WinXP thing is wrong also.

WinXP came about from the NT kernel which dates back to VMS and VMS is Unix based from Bell Labs.


 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

*sigh* Foreign Aid is 'Aid', if you want to call it 'strategic imperialism' call it that, and add the dollars spent to the already ridiculous American military budget.

The creation of Israel is on sketchy grounds to begin with, but seems to have been a combination of military strategy and zionist convictions.

Also, if Ann COulter is to be believed, Cnada is bordered by a country of 300 million, half of whom think we are 'lucky that the US lets us exist on the same continent'😛

I know you are a strong supporter of Israel, though I sometimes wonder if that's because you actually think there's a strong argument for supporting them or if it's more like supporting a close family member, even if they've done something very wrong. On most other topics you're one f the more reasonable posters here, but the post of yours that I just called crap was exactly that.

Psst, I think Meuge is Jewish.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
last time I checked Israel is not surrounded by half a billion people who want to kill Israel either.

if that was the case Israelis wouldnt go to Egypt/Jordan for vacation


True dat, last time I checked people are afraid Israel might one day turn the ME to glass!! The nuclear weapons alone are enough to secure their existance or non-existance for a long time trust me guys 😉
 
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