SF becomes first US city to top $10 minimum wage

[dmcowen674]

They interviewed a guy working 2 jobs.

At $10hr he is doing $6hr better than someone working for Federal $7 min wage.

They also interviewed a Restaurant owner. Sounds to me that the restaurant should not be in business any longer since he said he can't afford to pay his employees the $10hr yet claims to be an "upscale" restaurant.

I don't understand San Fran.

The push in the rest of the country is to get the U.S. down to $2hr to compete with China.

What are they trying to accomplish in San Fran?

12-12-2011

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sf-be...BzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3

SF becomes first US city to top $10 minimum wage


San Franciscans passed a proposition in 2003 that requires the city to increase the minimum wage each year, using a formula tied to inflation and the cost of living. It's just another way the progressive people of the City by the Bay have shown their support for the working-class in a locale where labor unions remain strong and housing costs are sky high.

Employers say it could lead to layoffs by small businesses already forced to pay federal, state and city payroll taxes as well as a slew of other city-mandated taxes.

Daniel Scherotter, chef and owner of Palio D'Asti, an upscale Italian restaurant in the Financial District, said said the double whammy of recession and wage hikes has led to eight layoffs in his kitchen in the last four years.

 

[JSt0rm]

thats more then half the conservatives who post here make!

 

[momeNt]

They interviewed a guy working 2 jobs.

At $10hr he is doing $6hr better than someone working for Federal $7 min wage.

Is he working in 2 hours an hour compared to another worker also working 2 hours an hour?

Are you this stupid normally?

 

[Doppel]

Great news, Dave! You've found a new, warm city to live in and a hefty pay increase to boot!

Is he working in 2 hours an hour compared to another worker also working 2 hours an hour?

Are you this stupid normally?

So it's not strong math skills that Dave's many ex-employers lost after firing him.

 

[Fear No Evil]

If $10 is good, $20 is better.

 

[JSt0rm]

If $10 is good, $20 is better.

But $20 isnt the minimum needed to work in SF.

Minimum wage is just that. Its not what you want it to be.

 

[Drako]

Seems like a really good way to force more SF small businesses to lay-off more people.

 

[JSt0rm]

Seems like a really good way to force more SF small businesses to lay-off more people.

except that the sf market is amazing place to do business and you can make a ton of money if you figure it out. Its not a big place in total size but it is full of wealthy intelligent people.

 

[OutHouse]

woowt so the price of shit goes up to pay for the higher wages, people get fired because shops cant pay higher wages, rinse and repeat.

yea so go ahead and enjoy your $15.00 big mac.

 

[irishScott]

http://bls.gov/web/metro/laummtrk.htm

Unemployment Rates for Metropolitan Areas
Monthly Rankings
Not Seasonally Adjusted
Oct. 2011p

257 San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 9.1

That's 257th out of 372 metropolitan areas, with the lowest unemployment % at the top and largest at the bottom. And this will probably lower their position even further. WTG San Fran.

Edit: Also interesting to note that a ton of CA cities are at the very bottom with atrociously high unemployment rates:

359 Redding, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 13.2
360 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 13.3
361 Bakersfield-Delano, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 13.5
362 Madera-Chowchilla, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 14.0
362 Palm Coast, FL Metropolitan Statistical Area 14.0
364 Hanford-Corcoran, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 14.6
365 Modesto, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 15.2
366 Visalia-Porterville, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 15.3
367 Fresno, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 15.7
367 Stockton, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 15.7
369 Merced, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 15.8
370 Yuba City, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 16.7
371 Yuma, AZ Metropolitan Statistical Area 26.3
372 El Centro, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 28.9

 

[bfdd]

minimum wages make about as much sense as maximum wages.

 

[JSt0rm]

yes california has a problem with unemployment. This has more to do with our population growth then it does with $10 minimum wages in a expensive city.

 

[Doppel]

Few in San Fran are really on min wage anyway who are using it to live on.

 

[lord_emperor]

San Franciscans passed a proposition in 2003 that requires the city to increase the minimum wage each year, using a formula tied to inflation and the cost of living.

Isn't it inherently expensive to live in San Francisco? Seems reasonable to ensure that working a job actually pay the bills.

 

[CycloWizard]

yes california has a problem with unemployment. This has more to do with our population growth then it does with $10 minimum wages in a expensive city.

Funny, we don't seem to be having the same unemployment problem here despite higher population growth. /Texas

 

[Drako]

except that the sf market is amazing place to do business and you can make a ton of money if you figure it out. Its not a big place in total size but it is full of wealthy intelligent people.

:biggrin:, you don't get to SF much do you? While there are plenty of "wealthy intelligent people" in SF, it is hardly "full of" them.

The businesses that will be laying people off are mostly restaurants, who can't afford to pay dish washers/waiters etc $10/hour.

 

[Patranus]

yes california has a problem with unemployment. This has more to do with our population growth then it does with $10 minimum wages in a expensive city.

Nope.
Has more to do with these insane regulations driving business to other states.

 

[brandonb]

I thought all the undocumented workers get paid below minimium anyways (and pay taxes to boot!) and work all the jobs nobody else wants (minimium wage jobs) so what difference does it make?

The real minimium is like $2/h hour... It's just undocumented.

 

[JSt0rm]

Funny, we don't seem to be having the same unemployment problem here despite higher population growth. /Texas

You can be proud of your energy economy thats ok but thats all it is. Lets not kid ourselves, without refinery output and oil Texas would be another shit hole.

 

[JSt0rm]

:biggrin:, you don't get to SF much do you? While there are plenty of "wealthy intelligent people" in SF, it is hardly "full of" them.

The businesses that will be laying people off are mostly restaurants, who can't afford to pay dish washers/waiters etc $10/hour.

Yes actually I'm thinking sf is full of highly skilled highly successful people. Is SF 99% people in the top 1%? Of course not but it has a lot of them.

 

[Jaskalas]

I for one favor local experimentation.

 

[JSt0rm]

I for one favor local experimentation.

A true conservative says this ^

All the rest of you are neocon big government scum

 

[OutHouse]

You can be proud of your energy economy thats ok but thats all it is. Lets not kid ourselves, without refinery output and oil Texas would be another shit hole.

lol whut?

 

[OutHouse]

A true conservative says this ^

All the rest of you are neocon big government scum

and sf with its far reaching government tentacles is not big government? i dont know about you but in my book any government telling a business how much it can pay its employees is a neocon big goubment

 

[JSt0rm]

and sf with its far reaching government tentacles is not big government? i dont know about you but in my book any government telling a business how much it can pay its employees is a neocon big goubment

But its local government solving the problems of its voters the way they want without big federal government coming down on them.