Sessions met with Russian envoy twice last year, encounters he later did not disclose

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Jaskalas

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Can you give me a basic idea of just how many thousand pages you would require before you accept that he's had a thorough review of his policies, or lack thereof?

No, by all means let's keep discussing Russians or Trump's latest tweet, or how horrible he was to women 10 years ago.
Thousands of pages my !@$. He has divulged quite little in terms of details. And the time to press him was BEFORE he won election.

You don't seem to comprehend that all the outrage sucked the air out of the room.
 

fskimospy

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No, by all means let's keep discussing Russians or Trump's latest tweet, or how horrible he was to women 10 years ago.
Thousands of pages my !@$. He has divulged quite little in terms of details. And the time to press him was BEFORE he won election.

I'm talking exclusively before the election. Thousands of pages. Can you give me a ballpark number of how many articles or links you would like that deal with Trump's proposed policies on the merits before you will admit to being wrong?

Also, yes by ALL MEANS let's keep discussing the Russians. This was an attempt by a hostile foreign power to influence a US election and that hostile power may have compromised multiple high level federal officials. We need to talk about this even more than we're already talking about it.

You don't seem to comprehend that all the outrage sucked the air out of the room.

Of course not, there's just a limit as to how many times you can report on the same thing.
 

agent00f

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No, by all means let's keep discussing Russians or Trump latest tweet, or how horrible he was to women 10 years ago.
Thousands of pages my !@$. He has divulged quite little in terms of details. And the time to press him was BEFORE he won election.

As one example, plenty has been written just about his Giuliani's muslim ban. You also seem under the mistaken impression that the sort who carry his water are detail oriented people.
 

thraashman

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And the bad thing for her is that she now has effectively no chance of being reelected in 2018. She's done and it'll be just one more seat in the Senate for Republicans. Keep it up....and we'll see where the lies, smear campaigns, witch hunts and constant barrage of partisan bullshit ends up ultimately doing to your party.
If "lies, smear campaigns, witch hunts and constant barrage of partisan bullshit" effected elections then there wouldn't be a single Republican in office since about the mid 90's. Hell, "lies, smear campaigns, witch hunts and constant barrage of partisan bullshit" was the ONLY thing Trump ran on and now he's fucking President.
 

echo4747

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It will be interesting to see how this plays out... If Sessions is forced to resign. It would not surprise me to see whoever takes his place be even more disliked by the Dems.
 
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Good write up in the post about why it's unlikely for Sessions to face any perjury charges. Essentially echoes exactly what I said earlier on the subject.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...prosecutors-think-not/?utm_term=.8838628b58fc

Perjury demands that the falsehood be material to the testimony, and in the response to Franken, [Paul] Butler said he isn’t sure that Sessions’s statement about meeting with Russians was.

“He wasn’t asked directly about his own contacts, so he could say that his answer wasn’t material because that wasn’t really what the question was about,” Butler said. “In fact, he could say if they really wanted to know that, they could have asked that.” …

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On Jan. 17, Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) asked additional questions of Sessions in a letter. Included among them: “Several of the President-Elect’s nominees or senior advisers have Russian ties. Have you been in contact with anyone connected to any part of the Russian government about the 2016 election, either before or after Election Day?”

Sessions replied, “No.”
 
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Good write up in the post about why it's unlikely for Sessions to face any perjury charges. Essentially echoes exactly what I said earlier on the subject.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...prosecutors-think-not/?utm_term=.8838628b58fc
I saw the video which gives much better context to Franken's question and helps explain Session's subsequent answer...which appears to be weird at first until you understand the full context of Franken's question. In my opinion, Sessions was responding to the full context as related specifically to the Trump campaign having a continuing exchange of information with Russian operatives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd60gaqIJfE
 
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boomerang

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Holy shit, Chuck Schumer has been working for the Russians since at least 2003! The following link has photographic proof of this. The first picture shows Schumer smiling broadly no doubt after getting his payout for subterfuge and espionage. In the second picture we see Schumer making a "code signal" to Putin.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/flashback-chuck-schumer-meets-vlad-putin-new-york-city/

An investigation must be launched! Who's next in line when Schumer ends up behind bars?
 

zinfamous

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Holy shit, Chuck Schumer has been working for the Russians since at least 2003! The following link has photographic proof of this. The first picture shows Schumer smiling broadly no doubt after getting his payout for subterfuge and espionage. In the second picture we see Schumer making a "code signal" to Putin.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/flashback-chuck-schumer-meets-vlad-putin-new-york-city/

An investigation must be launched! Who's next in line when Schumer ends up behind bars?

ALl of this must be very difficult for you.

I can't really empathize, because I've never been so completely wrong about everything and on the wrong side of every single issue, but I understand that this must be very difficult for you. What's it like to have the weight of rational, adult discourse bearing down against you? Are you able to sleep at night?

Hey! at least you still have excellent taste in film! ;)
 
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Holy shit, Chuck Schumer has been working for the Russians since at least 2003! The following link has photographic proof of this. The first picture shows Schumer smiling broadly no doubt after getting his payout for subterfuge and espionage. In the second picture we see Schumer making a "code signal" to Putin.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/flashback-chuck-schumer-meets-vlad-putin-new-york-city/

An investigation must be launched! Who's next in line when Schumer ends up behind bars?
And we need to throw Obama in the mix as well...Russian "intermediaries" have made at least 22 visit's to the White House during his tenure as President! Anyone know if Kenneth Starr is available?

EDIT: Looks like a lot more need to be investigated as well. :)
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hal2kilo

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And we need to throw Obama in the mix as well...Russian "intermediaries" have made at least 22 visit's to the White House during his tenure as President! Anyone know if Kenneth Starr is available?
Doing a great job at showing your desperate partisan idiocy.
 
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fskimospy

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And we need to throw Obama in the mix as well...Russian "intermediaries" have made at least 22 visit's to the White House during his tenure as President! Anyone know if Kenneth Starr is available?

EDIT: Looks like a lot more need to be investigated as well. :)
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Wow, all of those Democrats perjured themselves in testimony to Congress about Russia?

I'm genuinely confused, how did this much perjury go unnoticed? Any ideas?

Can I say that once again, just like with Flynn, how insane it is that conservatives are desperately trying to play down and ignore the fact that a high ranking US official has likely committed a crime by lying to a federal authority about communications with a hostile foreign power?

Think about that for a minute. This is how crazy conservatives have become.
 

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Wow, all of those Democrats perjured themselves in testimony to Congress about Russia?

I'm genuinely confused, how did this much perjury go unnoticed? Any ideas?

Can I say that once again, just like with Flynn, how insane it is that conservatives are desperately trying to play down and ignore the fact that a high ranking US official has likely committed a crime by lying to a federal authority about communications with a hostile foreign power?

Think about that for a minute. This is how crazy conservatives have become.

Ugh, it's kinda depressing how deranged these R's are getting that it has gotten to this point (Putin's surge in popularity with R's is, to me, a prime example of the nuttiness).

If there's one good thing that can come from it, it'll be them getting wiped out in 2018 and 2020.
 

thraashman

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Wow, all of those Democrats perjured themselves in testimony to Congress about Russia?

I'm genuinely confused, how did this much perjury go unnoticed? Any ideas?

Can I say that once again, just like with Flynn, how insane it is that conservatives are desperately trying to play down and ignore the fact that a high ranking US official has likely committed a crime by lying to a federal authority about communications with a hostile foreign power?

Think about that for a minute. This is how crazy conservatives have become.
What do you expect, no one hates America like conservatives hate America.
 
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Wow, all of those Democrats perjured themselves in testimony to Congress about Russia?

I'm genuinely confused, how did this much perjury go unnoticed? Any ideas?

Can I say that once again, just like with Flynn, how insane it is that conservatives are desperately trying to play down and ignore the fact that a high ranking US official has likely committed a crime by lying to a federal authority about communications with a hostile foreign power?

Think about that for a minute. This is how crazy conservatives have become.
I'm not talking about perjury...I'm talking about something much worse....collusion with Russian "intermediaries"! Oh my! You do love your country...no?
 

fskimospy

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I'm not talking about perjury...I'm talking about something much worse....collusion with Russian "intermediaries"! Oh my! You do love your country...no?

Huh? You've lost me here as this doesn't make any sense. I'm not aware of anyone saying that speaking to Russians is bad. It's a good thing, in fact! The problem we've been running into lately however is that the new administration appears to have a MAJOR problem with secretly talking to Russian intermediaries and then perjuring themselves to federal authorities about it, which can be a felony.

I have to say though, this administration has been impressive so far. It hasn't even been two months and there's already talk of a special prosecutor. Are you missing the time when Obama and other adults were in charge yet? Haha.
 

ivwshane

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That's the point! We don't know and have NO evidence indicating collusion during those meetings....and that's why we need an investigation!

So now you are for an investigation into this connection between Trump and the Russians? Maybe you aren't the complete idiot I thought you were.
 

outriding

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That's the point! We don't know and have NO evidence indicating collusion during those meetings....and that's why we need an investigation!

So are those people trying to hide this collusion by lying in front of Congress or is it part of their day to day job?
 

boomerang

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ALl of this must be very difficult for you.

I can't really empathize, because I've never been so completely wrong about everything and on the wrong side of every single issue, but I understand that this must be very difficult for you. What's it like to have the weight of rational, adult discourse bearing down against you? Are you able to sleep at night?

Hey! at least you still have excellent taste in film! ;)
Your sarcasm meter is tuned to "Progressive". There is very, very little "rational adult discourse" in this thread. It's a cornucopia of posts from people that think like teenagers being manipulated by the media. My post is as relevant to this situation as the rest of them which is to say it's not.

Adult discourse my ass. Leftists running around with their hair on fire screaming Russian this and Russian that isn't even remotely related to sanity in any degree.

I can't put into words how totally ignorant every one of you sounds. You should be ashamed of yourselves and would be if you had any degree of self consciousness instead of the huge degree of arrogance that rules your every thought and action.

Oh, and thanks for the compliment!
 
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Your sarcasm meter is tuned to "Progressive". There is very, very little "rational adult discourse" in this thread. It's a cornucopia of posts from people that think like teenagers being manipulated by the media. My post is as relevant to this situation as the rest of them which is to say it's not.

Adult discourse my ass. Leftists running around with their hair on fire screaming Russian this and Russian that isn't even remotely related to sanity in any degree.

I can't put into words how totally ignorant every one of you sounds. You should be ashamed of yourselves and would be if you had any degree of self consciousness instead of the huge degree of arrogance that rules your every thought and action.

Oh, and thanks for the compliment!

Here's a handy guide

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...n-team-trump-and-russia/ar-AAnL8kM?li=BBnb7Kz

Aren't you at least a little bit concerned with Russian hackers screwing with the election, lets think about next election what happens if they screw around again or is it better that all Politicians end up being extra nice to Russia so they don't end up at the wrong end of a shit storm.