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[Red Squirrel]

2.3x faster is a pretty bold claim by MS lol.

 

[igor_kavinski]

2.3x faster is a pretty bold claim by MS lol.

It's a lie. Comparing mangos to lemons.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I also forgot what it's called, so I had to look it up. It's not as old as I thought, existing from 2008 to 2013.

Wubi (software) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A year old version still exists! https://github.com/hakuna-m/wubiuefi/releases/tag/22044r346

 

[manly]

It's a lie. Comparing mangos to lemons.

50X faster than Intel Celeron N4100!

 

[mikeymikec]

Well yesterday I decided to try and upgrade my laptop from Mint 21.3 to 22.2.

Have you noticed any differences? I told my Mint 22 VM to update and got its display prefs to match the host OS's, and I didn't really notice anything.

 

[mikeymikec]

2.3x faster is a pretty bold claim by MS lol.

Imagine what Win11's adoption rates would have been like if it was true, it's been out for four years approximately and no-one seems to have noticed any performance improvement? Odd.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Imagine what Win11's adoption rates would have been like if it was true, it's been out for four years approximately and no-one seems to have noticed any performance improvement? Odd.

I did notice a one minute performance improvement in Upscayl when I upgraded from Win10 22H2 to Win11 25H2 on Core i7-1065G7 but need to confirm if it's really due to OS or if Windows was just doing something in the background.

Checked on 5900X and no such improvement there sadly

 

[WelshBloke]

Imagine what Win11's adoption rates would have been like if it was true, it's been out for four years approximately and no-one seems to have noticed any performance improvement? Odd.

I have (had) no problems with performance on Win11. I actually liked most of it. It was Microsofts conscious decision to cram a ton of cloud services and AI into it that soured me on it.

 

[manly]

Imagine what Win11's adoption rates would have been like if it was true, it's been out for four years approximately and no-one seems to have noticed any performance improvement? Odd.

That was spamvertisement by MS, but they aren't claiming that Win11 is 2.3X faster than its predecessor.
They are claiming that a brand new PC is 2.3X faster than an older PC that came with Win10.

 

[mikeymikec]

That was spamvertisement by MS, but they aren't claiming that Win11 is 2.3X faster than its predecessor.
They are claiming that a brand new PC is 2.3X faster than an older PC that came with Win10.

Yep, you're right. The link in the image loads this page:

Claims and Disclosures

Claims and Disclosures

learn.microsoft.com

Who would have thunk that Intel 12th/13th gen processors are up to 2.3x faster than Intel 6th/8th/10th gen processors.

 

[pcgeek11]

Have you noticed any differences? I told my Mint 22 VM to update and got its display prefs to match the host OS's, and I didn't really notice anything.

Nothing major it just seems snappier. That may just be a placebo effect...

 

[lxskllr]

Who would have thunk that Intel 12th/13th gen processors are up to 2.3x faster than Intel 6th/8th/10th gen processors.

Heh... 4th gen here. I'm still really happy with it, but it would be interesting trying a brand new machine of comparable specs(by generation) to see how they compare. Might ruin my happiness though :^D

 

[mikeymikec]

Heh... 4th gen here. I'm still really happy with it, but it would be interesting trying a brand new machine of comparable specs(by generation) to see how they compare. Might ruin my happiness though :^D

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When I changed from a 4690k to a 7800X3D, Firefox's cold start time was identical in Linux. The only common factor was the Samsung 840 PRO 256GB SSD I was using at the time, though I don't recall any performance boost in Linux when I changed to a 970 EVO PLUS 1TB NVMe.

@pcgeek11 I would be amazed if the Cinnamon UI could be made any snappier than it already is, but maybe my standards are lower because I see the sluggish Win11 UI day in, day out. Right-click on the desktop: one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand...

 

[DaaQ]

If it's officially not compatible then you don't get the upgrade offer in the first place.

This used to be not true, a year ago, I used a RETAIL Win7 CD key to install and activate 11 on a 990fx with FX cpu and GTX 780 system.

I used RUFUS and 24h2 iso from MS. it worked, and when I built new machine, over a year later, I purchased a retail win 11 pro key.
I also activated w11 on a i5 750 Lynnfield system using the win 7 retail key. I had a 3 set retail and 1 oem key disk. (when kids still lived at home) but the above my one son has, and it works still. Wont play new games, but he needed it for music stuff.
My FX system ran Diablo4 and BG3.

Seems OCT 6th they switched to 252H which disables Rufus being able to disable MS account sign in.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Seems OCT 6th they switched to 252H which disables Rufus being able to disable MS account sign in.

Not sure if they changed the ISO later but I have the 25H2 ISO and installed it on my 5900X. Rufus was able to circumvent the online account requirement just fine.

 

[DaaQ]

Not sure if they changed the ISO later but I have the 25H2 ISO and installed it on my 5900X. Rufus was able to circumvent the online account requirement just fine.

Maybe I got the dev channel iso, I have read it was supposedly only to be in dev and insider channels.

Darn I had insider checked.

I am going to try the suggestion above of making a second admin account without the hello screen. That is what bothers me most, having to put a PIN in when it comes up.

 

[igor_kavinski]

That is what bothers me most, having to put a PIN in when it comes up.

I have seen so many non-techie people being forced to get someone to install new Windows because they forgot the password to their online account and then don't even remember the personal details needed to reset that password because they entered junk in a hurry because all they wanted to do was LOGIN to their brand new laptop. It's ridiculous and I hope there's a special place in hell for everyone at M$ who decided that it's a good thing.

 

[mikeymikec]

This used to be not true, a year ago, I used a RETAIL Win7 CD key to install and activate 11 on a 990fx with FX cpu and GTX 780 system.

I used RUFUS and 24h2 iso from MS. it worked, and when I built new machine, over a year later, I purchased a retail win 11 pro key.
I also activated w11 on a i5 750 Lynnfield system using the win 7 retail key. I had a 3 set retail and 1 oem key disk. (when kids still lived at home) but the above my one son has, and it works still. Wont play new games, but he needed it for music stuff.
My FX system ran Diablo4 and BG3.

Seems OCT 6th they switched to 252H which disables Rufus being able to disable MS account sign in.

Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean but I think we're talking about different topics. I was responding to RS who was asking a question that boiled down to whether "not officially compatible with Win11" machines get the Win11 upgrade offer on Win10.

 

[DaaQ]

Yes I should have multi quoted. Or just added to the conversation without quoting your post.

I was speaking in general terms, that W10 was not necessary to free upgrade to W11. I used a W7 retail key to activate 11.

But being morning and on coffee instead of night time whiskey, thinking about it. I have a Lenovo (the cheap version of something pad) it has a ryzen 3200g and came with windows 10. I can't remember if I ran the compatibly check and it failed, so I rebooted and just accepted the w11 upgrade that it had pre downloaded. Or if I just did the update and the setup process just wasn't as strict back then. I upgraded that PC really early in the w11 cycle. Maybe 6m after w11 launch.
I do know it was an upgrade because until then I always did clean installs.
I do not think the 3200G was a compatible cpu though. 350usd laptop that ran D3.

They have been tightening the requirements and closing some loopholes though, so it may have been a less strict upgrade process back then. It was about 4 years ago though.

 

[DaaQ]

@mikeymikec You have been using is it Mint with Cinnamon or Cinnamon with Mint added on?
My main use would be gaming and browsing ect. No work stuff ect.

I know Steam has brought the gaming along way, but what distro would be best in your opinion to run Blizzard launcher? I don't use Steam for any of the Diablo games.

Also I think you said Linux won't install on storage spaces volumes? Would I have to use the motherboard RAID controller to make this 4 disk volume? Samsung 830 I think evo series, 128gbx4 sata ssd.

Also AMD GPU not Nvidia if it matters much.

 

[mikeymikec]

Yes I should have multi quoted. Or just added to the conversation without quoting your post.

I was speaking in general terms, that W10 was not necessary to free upgrade to W11. I used a W7 retail key to activate 11.

When did you do this? Because MS cracked down on old key re-use in 2023 IIRC. If the W7 key had been used to activate Win10 pre 2023 then it still counts as a Win10 licence.

But being morning and on coffee instead of night time whiskey, thinking about it. I have a Lenovo (the cheap version of something pad) it has a ryzen 3200g and came with windows 10. I can't remember if I ran the compatibly check and it failed, so I rebooted and just accepted the w11 upgrade that it had pre downloaded. Or if I just did the update and the setup process just wasn't as strict back then. I upgraded that PC really early in the w11 cycle. Maybe 6m after w11 launch.
I do know it was an upgrade because until then I always did clean installs.
I do not think the 3200G was a compatible cpu though. 350usd laptop that ran D3.

3200G is a desktop CPU, your laptop probably has a 3200U or something similar.

Both the G and U are on the compatible list:

Windows processor requirements Windows 11 supported AMD processors

This specification details the AMD processors that can be used with Windows 11 customer systems that include Windows products, including custom images.

learn.microsoft.com

 

[mikeymikec]

@mikeymikec You have been using is it Mint with Cinnamon or Cinnamon with Mint added on?
My main use would be gaming and browsing ect. No work stuff ect.

I know Steam has brought the gaming along way, but what distro would be best in your opinion to run Blizzard launcher? I don't use Steam for any of the Diablo games.

Also I think you said Linux won't install on storage spaces volumes? Would I have to use the motherboard RAID controller to make this 4 disk volume? Samsung 830 I think evo series, 128gbx4 sata ssd.

Also AMD GPU not Nvidia if it matters much.

I'm using Mint Cinnamon 21.1. I've barely tried to game on Linux, I dual-boot with Windows just for gaming or storage drive recovery work (NTFS).

The extent of my gaming has been OpenXCOM (native in Linux), Tomb Raider 2 and 4 (I think I got both to run fine), Star Wars Jedi Academy (using some amateur Linux port, it was unplayable), and that's about it I think.

I can't help you with Storage Spaces at all, never touched them.

AMD GPUs AFAIK have a better rep for Linux compatibility, I've used two on Linux being the R9 380X and my current 6700XT. With the latter, I've had 2-3 hangs in Linux since I built my AM5 setup in late 2023, otherwise no problems.