Senator says homos "OK" if they keep it holstered

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: gopunk

"Cockblock?" I don't know that one...er...maybe I shouldn't know it? Is it a "non-straight" thing? :Q

wow, i figured you of all people would know what cockblock means....



http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cockblock

I suddenly feel old. I didn't know THAT was the definition.

We used to call it "slowin' his roll." "Derailing the TaTa train." Etc.

 

[FeathersMcGraw]

Originally posted by: Hatari Chic

I think he's talking about anything sexual, and he's got at least one point. He's being consistent rather than hypocritical. He's saying that if we really believe people's sexual choices are their private choices, then polygamy etc logically should be as legal as homosexuality.

The odd man out in Santorum's little litany is incest, since I'm guessing that most people who support homosexuality aren't also supporters of pedophilia (no matter how much the radical right would like to paint them that way). But it's pretty easy to slip in that little bit of slippery-slope fallacy in there to enrage people against the horribly corrupting influence of those immoral homos.

And are there actually statutes against adultery? I wouldn't be surprised if there were some archaic ones down South, but he's talking like this is something illegal.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: SilverThief
Just look at him.....its only a matter of time before he comes out.

i think he looks kind of like that guy on the shield...

I think he looks like a plastic man, who hasn't thought for himself since mommy spanked him for asking where babies come from.

 

[VTrider]

Sen. Rick Santorum is an ass

See what happens people when you don't vote? Ignorant, bigoted idiots like this get elected

It's only a matter of time until someone on this board says that his quote was taken 'out of context' or something stupid like that, just like when stupid Trent Lott opened up his big, fat mouth.

-VTrider

 

[AreaCode707]

Re: accusations of him being a bigot. I think that he's separating a person from their actions, that being the point of his statements, and in that way he is trying to avoid being a bigot.

big·ot ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bgt)
n.
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

The question is, what do you call intolerance? From his point of view, he's being tolerant by distinguishing between a person and their actions, so he can approve of a person while disapproving of their lifestyle choices, much in the same way that we could accept a culture that has traditions different and perhaps abhorent to our own but not approve of what they do. You can call him a bigot for wanting to preserve his own "group" - the heterosexual family structure - but you have to admit that there isn't any long term evidence yet for what family structure provides the best support for children.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Hatari Chic

Originally posted by: gopunk
right to anything? i fail to see how that leads to the right to kill other people. maybe it's just me.

He's being consistent rather than hypocritical. He's saying that if we really believe people's sexual choices are their private choices, then polygamy etc logically should be as legal as homosexuality.

I agree with him that if homosexuality is legal so should polygamy and adultery, but including incest is going a bit far.

Why is incest going too far? If it's not rape, it's consensual. It's all the same arguement.

 

[Ronstang]

i'm willing to change any of my opinions for logic, and logic alone.

That's admirable. Homosexual sex is not logical, if one is completely honest about the subject, so not agreeing with homosexuality does not make you a bigot per se, it makes you logical.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

i'm willing to change any of my opinions for logic, and logic alone.

That's admirable. Homosexual sex is not logical, if one is completely honest about the subject, so not agreeing with homosexuality does not make you a bigot per se, it makes you logical.

how exactly is homosexual sex illogical? provide a convincing argument, and i'll change my mind.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Hatari Chic
Re: accusations of him being a bigot. I think that he's separating a person from their actions, that being the point of his statements, and in that way he is trying to avoid being a bigot.

big·ot ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bgt)
n.
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

The question is, what do you call intolerance? From his point of view, he's being tolerant by distinguishing between a person and their actions, so he can approve of a person while disapproving of their lifestyle choices, much in the same way that we could accept a culture that has traditions different and perhaps abhorent to our own but not approve of what they do. You can call him a bigot for wanting to preserve his own "group" - the heterosexual family structure - but you have to admit that there isn't any long term evidence yet for what family structure provides the best support for children.

He is not preserving his group any more than McCarthy preserved the American "way of life". He is condemning another group's actions which have no affect on him, and in doing so supports the persecution of that group.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Hatari Chic

Originally posted by: gopunk
right to anything? i fail to see how that leads to the right to kill other people. maybe it's just me.

He's being consistent rather than hypocritical. He's saying that if we really believe people's sexual choices are their private choices, then polygamy etc logically should be as legal as homosexuality.

I agree with him that if homosexuality is legal so should polygamy and adultery, but including incest is going a bit far.

Why is incest going too far? If it's not rape, it's consensual. It's all the same argument.

When I said that I was thinking of incest being a non-consensual thing. If two consenting, related adults want to get it on who am I to say they shouldn't, but for the sake of the gene pool they should use protection.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

He is not preserving his group any more than McCarthy preserved the American "way of life". He is condemning another group's actions which have no affect on him, and in doing so supports the persecution of that group.

I'd say that's a false analogy. You'd have a time convincing me that the general sexual attitude of a culture doesn't affect family structure.

 

[EXman]

Hell, I agree with him!

me too... two words "EXIT ONLY"

flame me and I'll call you a Flamer pun intended

 

[VTrider]

Originally posted by: Hatari Chic

<snip>......but you have to admit that there isn't any long term evidence yet for what family structure provides the best support for children.

I can tell ya right now, long before humankind had the ability to even count it's toes on our feet, evidence for the best support in regard to family and children was long ago established.....LOVE









Civilized society as a whole would be far better off without the fearful, assbackwards thinking people like Sen. Santorum who represents us.

-VTrider

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: VTrider

Originally posted by: Hatari Chic

<snip>......but you have to admit that there isn't any long term evidence yet for what family structure provides the best support for children.

I can tell ya right now, long before humankind had the ability to even count it's toes on our feet, evidence for the best support in regard to family and children was long ago established.....LOVE


Civilized society as a whole would be far better off without the fearful, assbackwards thinking people like Sen. Santorum who represents us.

-VTrider

That love is the best support in regard to family and children doesn't negate my statement though, that cutural sexual attitudes have an effect on upbringing.

 

[sandorski]

Sheep futures have risen after the Sens comments!

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Hatari Chic

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

He is not preserving his group any more than McCarthy preserved the American "way of life". He is condemning another group's actions which have no affect on him, and in doing so supports the persecution of that group.

I'd say that's a false analogy. You'd have a time convincing me that the general sexual attitude of a culture doesn't affect family structure.

It certainly does. Look at all the adultery that goes on, nobody can convince me that it doesn't have a profound affect on children. Then you have the homosexual activism targeting young boys and lesbian feminism targeting young girls.

 

[ViperXX]

I totally agree with the guy.

It's going against nature.

Being gay is wrong.

What, are you going to have a baby a$$ turd??

 

[gopunk]

still waiting for an explanation on how homosexual acts are illogical.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Santorum is no tool . . . he's a reasonably bright fellow who just happens to be a touch right of center. The problem with these people is that they see absolutely no need to reign in big biz but are absolutely captivated by the idea of regulating human sexual interactions. When women were subjugated . . . OK . . . when women were less subjugated . . . polygamy kind of made sense. But what idiot would do it today.

Divorce settlement:
1st wife gets 1/2 . . .
2nd wife gets 1/4 . . .
3rd wife gets 1/8 . . .

Santorum deserves credit for practicing a true Christian ethos of hating the sin but not the sinner.

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: ViperXX
I totally agree with the guy.

It's going against nature.

Being gay is wrong.

What, are you going to have a baby a$$ turd??

You are a mindless fool, go back to being a bigot somewhere else.

 

[VTrider]

Originally posted by: Hatari Chic

Originally posted by: VTrider

Originally posted by: Hatari Chic

<snip>......but you have to admit that there isn't any long term evidence yet for what family structure provides the best support for children.

I can tell ya right now, long before humankind had the ability to even count it's toes on our feet, evidence for the best support in regard to family and children was long ago established.....LOVE


Civilized society as a whole would be far better off without the fearful, assbackwards thinking people like Sen. Santorum who represents us.

-VTrider

That love is the best support in regard to family and children doesn't negate my statement though, that cutural sexual attitudes have an effect on upbringing.

I couldn't figure out where in your post you were referring to a child's upbringing being effected by cultural sexual attitudes? Since you brought it up though, are you saying that certian sexual attitudes in American society have a negative effect on a childs growth?

-VTrider

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Then you have the homosexual activism targeting young boys and lesbian feminism targeting young girls

What kind of sick media do you people watch?! Let me guess . . . The Birdcage . . . how about Priscilla Queen of the Desert?

What, are you going to have a baby a$$ turd??

I think I need another ATOT vacation . . .

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: ViperXX
I totally agree with the guy.

It's going against nature.

Being gay is wrong.

What, are you going to have a baby a$$ turd??

You are a mindless fool, go back to being a bigot somewhere else.

Agreed.

 

[ViperXX]

You are a mindless fool, go back to being a bigot somewhere else.

Bigot, Shmigot. It's my opinion.

I don't have to accept it.

Why don't we put all gay males on one island and gay females on another island and see how long they reproduce.

It's against nature and against God.

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: ViperXX

You are a mindless fool, go back to being a bigot somewhere else.

Bigot, Shmigot. It's my opinion.

I don't have to accept it.

Why don't we put all gay males on one island and gay females on another island and see how long they reproduce.

It's against nature and against God.

Wow, what a great christian