[Semiaccurate] GK104/Kepler/GTX680 Next Week?

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SlowSpyder

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I just read through the thread about this article over at SA. It is pretty comical, one poster even suggested that JHH read the SA article and pushed back the launch just to prove Charlie wrong. Somehow I just do not believe SA is that important to JHH or Nvidia. Jeez...
 

n0x1ous

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I just read through the thread about this article over at SA. It is pretty comical, one poster even suggested that JHH read the SA article and pushed back the launch just to prove Charlie wrong. Somehow I just do not believe SA is that important to JHH or Nvidia. Jeez...


I saw that as well, they are a special bunch over there. The thread was indeed a good laugh.
 

SlowSpyder

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For as much as he did get right, or was often in the ballpark with Fermi, he seems to know nothing about Kepler. It is my opinion that, at least regarding Kepler, his articles should be completely ignored and dismissed.
 

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So, the whole "28nm node @ TSMC is shutdown" looked/read like an interesting article. Troubling if true.

For everyone. Too bad FABS cost $$$billions$$$ to make and operate.

I am really surprised that China hasn't pushed into the high tech manufacturing (FABS) in a huge way. It seems like a natural progression. Their government has the cash, and that seems to be the important thing. (actually curious, Taiwan seems to be doing seems to be the hotbed for this technology, I am curious why other regions/countries are not pursuing it)
 
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Guess you bought into nvidia's marketing hype machine as well. Its okay, just wait until Q4 for GK112.

Where and when did Nvidia start hyping Kepler? Could you provide very specific examples?

It is nowhere near complete, but i'm sure nvidia marketing will make you believe its right around the corner.

You actually have no idea how far along it is, correct? I mean a real, verifiable, trustworthy source? And when you say nvidia marketing will make you believe you are implying they actually haven't done anything yet, correct? And you are only guessing based on pessimistic, jaded, and naturally biased opinions - also correct?

Just like the GTX 480 was right around the corner and 5 times faster than the 5870. Remember what happened there 7 months later?
:thumbsup: JHH proclaims GTX 480 5x faster than 5870, then real world benchmarks show it to be 10% faster while running twice as hot and using twice as much power.

Could you provide the link where JHH proclaimed very specifically that gtx480 would be 5 times faster than the hd5870? Those entire last three sentences are completely loaded with so much exaggeration and crap that you ruin any sort of point or credibility at all to what you are trying to say.

Twice as hot? Absolutely false.
7 months? Exaggeration. We both know that it was 6 months (9/23 - 3/26).
10% Exaggeration. It was 10-15% faster at release, but a year later it's a solid 20% faster. http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/images/perfrel_2560.gif

Inflammatory posts that exaggerate everything, which you are so good at consistently doing in this thread, do nothing to aid your credibility or people's desire to even want to converse with you. You have been making bold and severe claims, constantly repeating obnoxious rhetoric, and have failed to provide any sort of evidence or proof of anything you are saying. From what I hear you got kicked at [H]? Is this correct? Keep it up.

You're right. History does teach us a lot.

This applies to so much more than just companies. Like, for instance, to people's posting styles.
 
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Olikan

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For as much as he did get right, or was often in the ballpark with Fermi, he seems to know nothing about Kepler. It is my opinion that, at least regarding Kepler, his articles should be completely ignored and dismissed.

yep... i am with you...well, atleast he was right with tahiti
 

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History teaches you a lot.
8800GTX > 2900 XT
GTX280/285 > 4870/4890
GTX 480 > 5870
GTX 580 > 6970

So presuming GTX 680 to be faster than 7970 is a logical conclusion based on history
That's the attitude Nvidia wants you to have. This is not Nvidia's typical flagship. They're naming it as a flagship card because they couldn't produce a working high end part. You're looking at the next gen version of a 560Ti here.

Where and when did Nvidia start hyping Kepler? Could you provide very specific examples?
You must have missed the quotes from Nvidia about them being "disappointed" in Tahiti XT's performance and that Kepler will be "unbeatable."

3 TFLOPs/s with 195 Watt? Say hello the 3x times higher performance per Watt over Fermi.
I think you've forgotten how Nvidia calculates TDP.
 
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MrK6

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yep... i am with you...well, atleast he was right with tahiti
If I had to guess, I'd say Charlie does have some decent sources, based upon the amount he's gotten correct now or in the past. However, I'd also say that when times are thin, he'll wing it or go on a less than accurate source just to get page hits.
 

railven

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Woof, I stopped by to see if any thing new was posted, but daaaamnnnn some of you guys take this stuff too serious.

I'll check back again later, hopefully there is something to wet my appetite.

Go Premiums! :)
 

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I'm sure your post here has meaning. Just not for me. I'm guessing this is the beginning of a twist of sorts? Just let me know.
The individuals who have been posting for a long time appear to be fairly rational, even if they root for a side, but I've noticed some new people making some strange fanatical statements as fact about both GPU lines.
 

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You must have missed the quotes from Nvidia about them being "disappointed" in Tahiti XT's performance and that Kepler will be "unbeatable."

No I didn't miss any of that. But those weren't even close to marketing PR jargon, both statements were made in off-hand situations. One guy told someone "off the record" they were disappointed with Tahiti. REALLY? Do you think any Nvidia employee would say "Tahiti is a great chip, I think they have us this time"???

The other comment was on facebook Italy and was a reply to someone's comment on Nvidia Italy's facebook wall. Marketing???? No, no, no. No.
 

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Woof, I stopped by to see if any thing new was posted, but daaaamnnnn some of you guys take this stuff too serious.

I'll check back again later, hopefully there is something to wet my appetite.

Go Premiums! :)
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Keysplayr

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I guess this thread could be locked up after all. Not really serving any purpose beyond showing
Charlie Demerjian was wrong. And that's done.
 

Keysplayr

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The individuals who have been posting for a long time appear to be fairly rational, even if they root for a side, but I've noticed some new people making some strange fanatical statements as fact about both GPU lines.

Did you call them out on it if you found things strange?
 

Lonyo

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NVIDIA is in no hurry.
They run their own 2 year GPU schedule...but not all have catched on to this "new" idea.

Some will never catch on...and whine about X GPU being "late"...despite the 2 year cycle being public knowlegde *sigh*

Is that the 2 year cycle which slipped before it even began, or a different 2 year cycle?
 

Keysplayr

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Go back and look at this thread http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=32875760#post32875760

Notice its reception and who says what in that thread, now look at the total about face in this thread.

Seeing the Charlie fairweather friends hypocrisy without having to waste your breath pointing it out to them : priceless. ::
Oh no. you need to waste your breath i'm afraid. Not only are you being cryptic,
You're also being vague about it. Just say what you mean man. If you cant say a name for fear of being sanctioned for it, then maybe you shouldn't be referencing another member in this walk the thin line method you and Maddie seem to be employing right now.
 
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formulav8

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No I didn't miss any of that. But those weren't even close to marketing PR jargon, both statements were made in off-hand situations.QUOTE]

Saying Kepler will be unbeatable is not PR marketing? Offhand or not.
 
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