[seekingalpha] AMD Responds To Kaveri Delay Rumors - "on track for 2013"

[sm625]

When you're an OEM doing a million unit build using Intel chips, you can have all the other pieces built and have it all ready for assembly and motherboard manufacturing as soon as the chips arrive. If you're doing an AMD build you probably dont want all that stuff sitting around taking up floor space in the event AMD fails to deliver on time. I dont have any evidence of this but I suspect that they assign low priority to AMD build runs... ie they only use spare manufacturing floor space, spare engineering talent, etc, everything is second hand. All the prime focus is on those aforementioned million unit Intel builds where they have everything set up and ready for when the Intel chips arrive *on time*.

 

[ShintaiDK]

http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-con...n-the-hands-of-enthusiasts-in-2014/50308.html

Here’s AMD’s statement on the nuances of language and Kaveri’s launch date:

AMD’s ‘Kaveri’ high-performance APU remains on track and will start shipping to customers in Q4 2013, with first public availability in the desktop component channel very early in Q1 2014. ‘Kaveri’ features up to four ‘Steamroller’ x86 cores, major heterogeneous computing enhancements, and a discrete-level Graphics Core Next (GCN) implementation – AMD’s first high-performance APU to offer GCN. ‘Kaveri’ will be initially offered in the FM2+ package for desktop PCs. Mobile ‘Kaveri’ products will be available later in the first half of 2014.
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So 2014 product.

 

[mrmt]

So Kaveri APU will launch close to Broadwell. It won't be pretty.

 

[AtenRa]

So Kaveri APU will launch close to Broadwell. It won't be pretty.

Yes for Broadwell :biggrin:

 

[boxleitnerb]

Riiiight. In what reality do you live in?

 

[NostaSeronx]

Broadwell has been cancelled, Intel is skipping right over it to get Skylake out earlier.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Broadwell has been cancelled, Intel is skipping right over it to get Skylake out earlier.

Wrong as usual.

 

[mrmt]

Broadwell has been cancelled, Intel is skipping right over it to get Skylake out earlier.

More of your aggressive search techniques?

 

[AtenRa]

Riiiight. In what reality do you live in?

The same reality that the same person was saying the same BS about Haswell and how it will not be pretty for Ritchland. Core i3 Haswell haven’t been launched yet and when it will come it will eat dust both in CPU and iGPU from Richland. And don’t forget that Ritchland is only an optimized one year old Trinity.


Also, no Broadwell for Desktops in 2014. Kaveri will be king in Desktop for the entire 2014.



Now, it seems to me that Intel is in real trouble with its iGPUs and I don’t know how Haswell 2 will compete against Kaveri in 2014. It’s looking worst and worst for Intel in Desktop APU segments of $150 and lower. :whiste:

 

[NTMBK]

Broadwell has been cancelled, Intel is skipping right over it to get Skylake out earlier.

Nah, Broadwell is still coming to mobile. No desktop parts though.

 

[inf64]

CES 2014 . That's 7-14 days after the end of 2013, a massive delay indeed lol .

 

[NostaSeronx]

Nah, Broadwell is still coming to mobile. No desktop parts though.

Nope, all parts are going to be Haswell. Skylake TTM will be much faster at least.

 

[Sweepr]

Nope, all parts are going to be Haswell. Skylake TTM will be much faster at least.

Just imagine how awesome it would be for AMD if that was true. Sadly, it isnt.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Just imagine how awesome it would be for AMD if that was true. Sadly, it isnt.

My roadmaps go to H2 2015, they show Haswell and Skylake only for Desktop and Mobile.

 

[AtenRa]

So two months after Haswell was realesed, where are all those $600 and bellow laptops ??? Where are all those Haswell tablets ??? Even if Broadwell will be released in H2 2014(say September/October ??? ) we will not see a lot of products until Xmas or even Q1 2015.

Kaveri will be ready for a repacement by then.

 

[blackened23]

Yes for Broadwell :biggrin:

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

A 2014 launch for Kaveri would be very bad. I just can't imagine a favorable outcome from that with Broadwell being released the same year - this will put AMD in the position of competing for price, which obviously isn't ideal. Unlike some here i'd like to see AMD better compete in the tablet/desktop CPU market but they continually disappoint. At least there's the GPU division which i'm still a fan of - they seem to deliver much more consistently than their CPU division.

 

[NostaSeronx]

A 2014 launch for Kaveri would be very bad.

You also have to factor in the OEM delay. By the time we see desktops and laptops with Kaveri. Half of the 2014 year would have gone by.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

A 2014 launch for Kaveri would be very bad. I just can't imagine a favorable outcome from that with Broadwell being released the same year - this will put AMD in the position of competing for price, which obviously isn't ideal. Unlike some here i'd like to see AMD better compete in the tablet/desktop CPU market but they continually disappoint.

Like I keep saying, AMD needs to stop the big cores altogether and go all in on Jaguar and its successors...

At least there's the GPU division which i'm still a fan of - they seem to deliver much more consistently than their CPU division.

Yeah, I loved ATI back in the day, but even today AMD's GPU division can't turn a profit. So sad

 

[AtenRa]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

A 2014 launch for Kaveri would be very bad. I just can't imagine a favorable outcome from that with Broadwell being released the same year - this will put AMD in the position of competing for price, which obviously isn't ideal. Unlike some here i'd like to see AMD better compete in the tablet/desktop CPU market but they continually disappoint. At least there's the GPU division which i'm still a fan of - they seem to deliver much more consistently than their CPU division.

According of the latest news, Kaveri(Desktop) will be shipped to OEMs in Q4 2013 and be released in the market in early Q1 (Most probable early January).
One more thing, we already knew that Kaveri Mobile would be a H1 2014 release for months now. Also, broadwell will be on a new and higly expensive 14nm process, so i dont expect any cheap Broadwell Laptops bellow 1K mark in 2014.

So again, how Broadwell will affect Kaveri if it will launch later and be in a different segment ??

 

[AtenRa]

Like I keep saying, AMD needs to stop the big cores altogether and go all in on Jaguar and its successors...

And yet Ritchland (Big Core) keep spanking Core i3 without a sweat. Imagine what Kaveri will do to Haswell Core i3.

 

[NostaSeronx]

And yet Ritchland (Big Core) keep spanking Core i3 without a sweat. Imagine what Kaveri will do to Haswell Core i3.

It won't do anything because Steamroller is a weaker yet more efficient Piledriver core. Steamroller and Excavator is going to end up getting killed by Haswell and Skylake.

 

[AtenRa]

It won't do anything because Steamroller is a weaker yet more efficient Piledriver core. Steamroller and Excavator is going to end up getting killed by Haswell and Skylake.

Weaker than Ritchland in what way ???

 

[bullzz]

@NostaSeronx - did someone hack your account..

 

[Arachnotronic]

And yet Ritchland (Big Core) keep spanking Core i3 without a sweat. Imagine what Kaveri will do to Haswell Core i3.

At what die size?

 

[sushiwarrior]

It won't do anything because Steamroller is a weaker yet more efficient Piledriver core. Steamroller and Excavator is going to end up getting killed by Haswell and Skylake.

Continue gazing into your crystal ball and explain to me the magical other-worldly statement that is "Steamroller is a weaker yet more efficient Piledriver core".

You're wrong on so many different fronts, I just would love to hear your explanation.